Phenom Schedule Pushed Back Again

http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/14049

They should honestly forget about 65 nm and simply test their 45 nm Phenom line now. It's too late for them to fix the supposed TLB bug. Just skip ahead because they aren't learning anything from 65.

Is thunderman still around?

WHAT????

Maybe he meant on schedule after AMD pushes the date back?

the Phenoms a bust...wow that news. If I remember right so was the Pentium 4 line. The only difference here is this size of the companies. Intel is huge and has a$$ wauds of money, therefore they could aford to have a less-then-impressive product. AMD is much smaller and much less financially sound so junk product(like the Phenom) will affect it more. My point of view is this...SHUT THE H3LL UP ALREADY. If the shoe was on the other foot you'd all be tearing Intel a new one

Hmm, yes well
So the 3 core phenoms have been pushed back from Q2/08 to Q1/08?
And 45 nm chips have been pushed back from H2/08 to H2/08?
I dont get it? What is the point of trying to put a negative spin on everything AMD does?
Here's the same thing, said a different way. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/ [...] m_roadmap/
Any doubt that techreport is taking thier marching orders from Paul O?

I agree those 45nm chips with 6mb l3 sound sweet, Im starting to fall for amd again, maybe ill pick up a tricore in march if the price is right.

All rumors about K10 thus far have been true, except for the Inquirer's rumor of "reverse hyperthreading".

More Phenom delays and failures would not surprise. AMD needs the corporate equivalent of Viagra, because they seem to be rather impotent as a processor manufacturer.

AMD needs,...something,....something to show for! I believe the 3879 x2 was a considerable light at the very far end of their tunnel! But,..they need something to show for in the cpu world! My personal opinion is,..the 6400+,...was the last of the last they had up their sleeve,...other then that,.....it was just a road to a road that led to a darker road!

When are Intel's new quads arriving?

Or are their temp diodes stuffed like the E8400's or are they finding it really hard to get the outboard memory controller to crank any higher?

Noise threshhold and all ...

Maybe INTEL can't make faster FSB parts in volume?

Not that they need the bandwidth ... but it will stuff up your overclocking efforts ... despite the superior silicon headroom.

That will piss off the fanbois eh?

Or are they just in cruise mode ... ?

time will tell.

Check and see if all of the INTEL execs are still grinning from ear to ear or whether they have gone back into huddled whispers like the Netburst days ... or AMD right now.

Damm ... I should write sweet short articles for some tech journal ... and mention beer and spel poorly !!

When were the insane quads landing again ... ??

We have seen the insane duals have a few problems ... ??

Mums and Dads don't want their houses burnt down or anything ... because the thermal monitoring doesn't work.

I hear they have a workaround now ...

Not much consolation if you bought one, and arn't computer savvy, and one day ... well ... who knows?

Wonder if they will recall the lot of them ??

They probably should ... or at least publicize the issue.

AMD did.

Maybe INTEL don't work like that ... prefer to sweep their garbage under the carpet and hope nobody cares.

I'd like to see some kind of public acknowledgment ... you know ... like AMD did.

Pretty courageous ...

I guess if your a monopolist you get to create reality rather than live in it like the rest of us.

Ooooh .... I like that line .

The real ? is will Intel have nelham out before AMDs B3's Or the tri/dual core k10s

Intel said 1st quarter of 08 for the quads. They didnt miss the timelime yet, unlike some other company.

Intel can make faster fsb parts in volume. The 6*50 line is the same fsb as the new lines. Except the exteme edition skulltrail quad with a 1600fsb

Over at AMDzone BM posted intel bankrupt in 2008. Feel bad for that guy aka thunderman aka Sharikou

Speaking of MatrixBaron over at AMDZone, I just ran across this and couldn't believe my eyes. No wonder he left Tom's. You know AMD's in trouble when BM jumps ship.

What about Charlie's "dancing in the aisle"? What about scoring 30,000k in 3DMark06?

BTW, I think what Charlie's "dancing in the aisle" means...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKzHEqnfdfI

Yeah reynod I'm very sure.

Holy crap, here's another one from BM:



He even mentions getting banned from Tom's. Looks like BM might be the next Intel fanboy.

"They've done nothing but lie and fail." Ouch!

Also, i wouldnt be surprissed if someone just made an account with his name, i mean, ...it just doesnt read like his posts, the choice of words is different.

I have a hard time believing that.

There's no way BM will turn on AMD. That's like saying AMD's doomed!

Post/Find of the Thread!

This looks like an imposter. Even more, it looks like someone's playing around with images. Baron Matrix publishes under his real name at AMDZone. I'd suggest that anyone who's interested in the truth of these claims go to AMD Zone to look through and confirm this stuff for yourself.

That's what they should do in the near term. In the long term, I guess they're going for Swift because their hybrid Crossfire's a hit with notebook vendors. What they really need is the architecture past Phenom, but the way that's going, Intel will have 32nm out first.

I really wanted a B3 Phenom, but I'm starting to question my loyalty to AMD regarding CPU's. I'm still an ATI fan, and have an MSI 3870x2 on the way from Newegg. I think it's in Memphis, so should I sing "My ATI baby's in Memphis, I got the GPU bereft blues"?

That Wolfdale I was looking at looks mighty good now. It really does. What in the world is AMD doing?

I don't know whether to cry or laugh, probably both at the same time. AMD hasn't been on schedule since, I don't know when. ATI should find a way to spin themselves off again and develop their own CPU's.

Should we believe them or the Inquirer, which said B2 Phenom's at 2.6 on May 8th? I'm all up for believing rumors about AMD right now, and I'm a genuine fan who ditched Intel for X2 and has yet to go back to C2D, but I don't know what will happen during the next full moon that coincides with a bank balance that allows me to click on Wolfdale at Newegg.

edited because it's late and I wanted a B3, not B2, and ATI should have developed their own CPU's, their GPU's are good enough.

I just went over the threads a bit and dam. They have such high hopes for AMD and are talking about how AMD will become competative again and this and that. Its kinda sad how blind they are.

Yes AMD can become competative but chances of it happening very soon are slim. I just don't think they have the resources too let alone the cash. I mean they could dip into ATIs pockets for that but that would probably cause delays on the GPU front which AMD can't have.

Okay, I feel a bit better. I expected B3 2.4 Phenoms by May and that's fine with me. I was disappointed last year with the delay of the 690G board, so I got an MSI barebones and got stuck with an Nvidia 405 chipset that doesn't like ATI cards. I was going to transfer that particular Athlon X2 to a 780G board, but they've been delayed till March.

I'd thought that the AMD/ATI merger would mean their roadmaps wouldn't hit any speed bumps, but I guess I was wrong. At least they came out with the 3000 series to cheer me up. If they were stuck with 2900 architecture with only slight changes, then it would be a disaster. Right now, an Athlon X2 is still a good CPU (unlike a Prescott Pentium 4 or a Smithfield Pentium D.

Yispli- I don't have a lot of trust in the Inq. either. Its been wrong too many times to maintain credibility. But anybody can check Amazon.com and find that they are advertizing the Phenom 9700 at 2.4 ghz with availability on Feb 29, 2008 and they are taking orders now. Amazom may have this wrong, but if they are wrong, they'll be mighty PO'ed at AMD because it would mean they would have to return a lot of money to angry customers. Now is this a B2 stepping or a B3? I can't say for sure, but after all the trouble brought on with the B2s, I can't see AMD releasing a B2 now.