help!!!! need your brains!

alright guys, i need your help! i'm a noobie, i'm still learning about pc hardwares. First let me say who i am. I'm a gamer and i've been gaming for quite a while. I do tons of multitasking, design and few other small things. Gaming/performance takes priority! i want to have a good pc, that will be able to run crysis and few other high demands games. I ran crysis on my old pc which is what i'm using... it was not acceptable! Please talk to me like i know nothing. i know it may sound weird or dumb, but hey every one has to start some where right? well i'm learning and i'm very motivated to get going.
At first i thought about going to AMD x2 4600+ dual core. But then i saw intel e6750 i'm like oooh. i see the charts, that e6750 beats the amd cpu i was looking at. So i decided to go back with intel and forget amd. Anyways, just to let yall know, i already ordered the amd, mobo, video card,monitor.... i'm keeping monitor and video card i think. Sending back the amd and mobo once it arrives here. I think i did deeper, longer and i think i did better homework this time. Please keep in mind, i'm on tight budget, i will include the "wish list" from newegg here, so yall will have an idea what i have listed.

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersio [...] er=5283565

will get heatsinks later when i get more money. i'm thinkin about going with themalright or artic cooling. Also i will get higher psu later. i cant seem to find a good cheap 600w psu with good ratings, i'm worried about getting a bad/defected or even have a psu breakdown withen few months.

So, what you guys think? ths good setup or any changes needed? With a fast reply and clear response with good and clear description/explanations is greatly appreciated!

- nick

any one?

seems like the list is good.... no one comments for their opinons heh

Suggest a Tier II PSU, the Antec NEO HE 550 is nice. If you an afford it, the E6740 would be your best PSU. emp said, the board won't run SLI so if you want to run 2 video cards, they'll have to be ATI. If your not going to significantly overclock, the stock HSF that comes with the retail CPU will be fine

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] p?t=108088

At that price point, you could get an Antec Nine Hundred for maybe $20 more which is definitely worth it, also the TP-Trio? I'm a fan of Antec, but if you're going to buy a PSU at that price, try the Silencer I gave or the Antec NeoHE 550 (the TruePower Trios are old stuff).

I would look for a cheaper EVGA/XFX 680i mobo instead, especially since the 780i are out now, and maybe some 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066 ram for OC'ing (Can be found at newegg for $100), also with that res (24" LCD 1920x1200 or 21" CRT 2048x1536) I'd definitely do SLI to get a good framerate while still keeping settings on high.

Your list is private I believe, so I can't see it. However I strongly suggest you get a strong PSU over anything else, you will end up regretting it in the long run if you get a cheap unit. This is a not too expensive 680i mobo:

EVGA 122-CK-NF67-T1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i LT SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813188015

Who needs SLI? Better off with a single card. Get a P35. The E6750 does 3.2 on the DS3L with stock fan and lowered voltage. PC 6400 (DDR2 800) will allow at least a 3.2 O/C at 1:1.

Here's a deal on Coolermaster case ;

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119137

And a PSU
http://www.buy.com/prod/Corsair-VX [...] 52646.html

hmmph, yeah i did mentioned about planning on sli down the road. however not very current or very soon. I was thinking, possibly around aprilish i will start doing sli and i'll get the rest of the good stuff (best/good psu, nice sli mobo and possibly 2 of the 9th series of nivdia card to make it sli).

i persume that what i have for set up is good.
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion...asp?ID=7550646

can you view it?

btw, added psu diff ram. how is this set up now?

Personally, I'd save some money and get the case and PSU I suggested above. I don't think you'll gain much with the ram, get the same in PC26400 for $50. If your wanting a modular PSU;

http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-52 [...] 70716.html

Heh... the Antec Nine Hundred I believe is the best air cooling case, it has 1x 200mm fan, 3x 120mm fans (two intake one exhaust), and optional 4th 120mm fan on the side panel. Enough room for 6 HDDs, 3 optical drives, and has a PSU-On-The-Bottom design which helps it to run cooler by not having to take the heat from the rest of the components and on top of that if the lower HDD bay is empty you also get a fan blowing on it.

If you're concerned about cooling, then you must know the Antec Nine Hundred was engineered with this in mind, the CM Stacker is not by any chance bad, but the only thing that it could possibly have over the Nine Hundred is that it is slightly more roomy, but the Nine Hundred is no dwarf.

Anyway nice list, I approve it, but if I were you I'd get an EVGA 8800GT in case the new high end does come out soon you might want to step up , but I honestly doubt nvidia is anywhere near done milking their G92.

brainnnsss... brainnnssss! BRAIIIINNNNSSSS!!!

sorry, I couldn't help myself...

are u buying Vista or XP. get xp at least for one more year. Why upgrade to vista? in 2009 WIndows Vienna will launch. Theres only about 3 DX 10 titles. Will take about 1 year to develop games fully dx 10 optimize. Dont let Vista Aereo fool you. Performance is the most important. If switching just because areo ****, just download Windows blind and download vista theme.You have another alternative, Dual Boot xp and Vista. With vista you will loose about 10 to 15% game performance. Me and my 15 programming group we dont have to upgrade to vista to play Only Dx 10 games. We found the way to hack DX 10 from vista to integrate to XP and some other modification to play only Vista games into XP. Just like other group of programmers found the way to convert Xp pro to Media center. Soon we will post benchmarks xp Dx 10 vs Vista Dx 10, and a video of Halo 2 running on both OS. xp Dx 10 has a 13% increase over vista. Unfortunately we wont share our final software to the world due to illegal issues. The video will show the world is possible and has been done. It was a six month project. Our Next project is to run pc games in ubuntu without Cedega or other emulator. We will integrate Dx 10 and tons of Windows Xp files Direct X sources to run pc games native on linux. Will take us about 1 year 8 month to accomplish this. Will be open source. Anybody can be part of this creation. Our goal is to switch xp gamers to Linux, if successful done.

thought about that mobo, but imma save money, switch to asus sli board in may maybe. and no to ddr2 800... i'm sticking with ddr2 1066 for high OCing.

rick, who said anything about vista? i'm not with vista... your right i'm waiting out for another year or 2. if i wanted vista, i'd have it already.

now check out my wishlist
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersio [...] 4dog+v%2E2
what you guys think?

i decided to go with q6600 now.

i was told this.

E6750:
Multi x FSB, RAM Speed = Clock Speed
8 × 333Mhz = 2.6Ghz, DDR2-667 << Stock speeds
8 × 400Mhz = 3.2Ghz, DDR2-800 << Easy OC
8 × 450Mhz = 3.6Ghz, DDR2-900 << Good OC
8 × 500Mhz = 4.0Ghz, DDR2-1000 << Excellent OC

As you can see, all you need for a 3.2Ghz OC is any cheap set of DDR2 800 RAM.

but for q6600 is similar concept here,

so.. help me out.

http://tinyurl.com/yodu3m

my current wish list

yes i plann on ocing pretty high. not when i get it asap, but in few weeks i think i will. then i'd have the thermalight ready!!!
i will oc the card, thats planned. TY, i didnt know about "cracking up the fan to 80%"
reason why i went with 4gb, just to be all set. wont need to upgrade later down the road =).

As far as I'm concerned it wouldn't be that good for smooth gameplay. Reason? The res is too big for the GT to game smoothly on it, some people will argue that a single GT/GTS(G92)/GTX should be enough for it, but I really don't like dipping in the 20fps very often and sometimes the teens, so I would grab a 22".

I think we're still a few years away from comfortably gaming in 24" with only one graphics card, at least comfortable enough for me, some people don't mind low fps on big graphical areas, but since most games I play have very heavy combat areas almost throughout the whole game it is hard for to enjoy gaming with a 30fps average on normal areas (which translates to 10ish in heavy areas usually).

If you're playing RTS games or even MMORPGs (Which to me they aren't games, they are just 3D chores), then you might not need 45-60fps average on your games. On the other hand if you do a lot of shooters, you will need high fps at all times. Now I won't recommend against getting the monitor or suggest that you do, all that I will say is that if it was me getting that screen with only a single card setup I wouldn't do it.

alright i changed my mind about this rig. i'mma take the step up.
I have few questions about this rig i'm looking at. IS it good? any changes needed?
1. Few peeps are telling me to stick with ddr2 800 not ddr2 1066. i'm like why? they are saying 800 is better, OC better than the 1066... i'm confused and unsure what to choose.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231148 vs the one in my wishlist.
2. is every thing good? good for OCing, no issues should be there?
3. Can some one give me links to thermalirhgt heatsinks? i want to put those heatsinks on my cpu, video card due to future ocing.

any other inputs would be great!!!

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersio [...] er=5283565 wish list

oh PS, the monitor would be good? with the specs im looking at.

windows xp.. i'm going to wait on the vista. maybe in late 2008 (this year) i will go for vista

what the heck are you talking about??? i'm not clear

If you know that you are going to OC, I suggest that you get the TR Ultra Extreme now. You will need to disassemble your system to install it.

And remember: it doesn't come with a fan.

I'm a rookie and built the system in my sig last week. Fired up and was relatively easy to build.

There is a cheaper 610 silencer that I looked at as well. I had been waiting a year to build, got extremely itchy and went and threw down on everything at my local Fry's for my own Christmas present. Also I could return stuff if it didn't work quicker. The build went well. I just took my time and read the motherboard manual.

And compared to my old P4 2.6 its smokin hot.

rickpcnerd wrote:

Rickpcnerd, could you link to any RECENT studies that verify a 10-15% performance hit for using Vista. The extensive test I linked below shows them running about the same, with XP doing a tad better, and that was just seven months after Vista's release.


http://www.firingsquad.com/hardwar [...] /page3.asp