Who Wants to Buy AMD? - TGDaily Discussion

I hope Nvidia doesn't buy them, it'll kill off ATI...and then monopoly.

If google buys them, the ever popular name will become even more popular and nearly everybody will know them and buy them. The average Joe will most likely buy a Google pc compared to Intel. I mean even my friends don't know what Intel is

Personally I think Google should buy General Motors too. Rename it and call it Google Motors. Everyone will recognize them

I Want To buy AMD!

Google would have no business purchasing AMD. It would be Sony buying Gatorade or something. It's two very different markets. Google has relatively no experience in producing CPUs, let alone GPUs. It would be tackling way to many things at once. That's just my two cents though.

I would really like to see either IBM or Samsung purchase AMD. That would be very interesting. Preferably Samsung, because they are Intel's #2 competitor, and could help AMD in the Research and Development areas substantially. Although I dislike the fact of AMD being boughten out, it comes to me as no surprise to hear this suggestion. The company is performing very poorly at the moment on the CPU segment and the GPU segment, well after a year, is finally starting to do some good now.

What I find the most baffling out of all of this, is that AMD can be bought (including ATI and its division) for less than what it paid for for ATI and its acquisition. That really concerns me a lot. AMD bought ATI for $5 billion and now it can be had for less than $4.8 billion. This goes to show that AMD is REALLY hurting. And what makes me just go into absolute shock is how they just gave Hector Ruiz a raise!

I think a purchase of AMD for Samsung would be downright the best thing the x86 market has or will ever see. Competition will be fierce, it will allow Samsung to increase in profits, which in turn will drive more products, not only this, but it would allow for better competition in the GPU industry as well. Driving performance even higher due to Samsung being a very large corporation, they can R&D more, and they can produce more and more at a time.

I feel that if Samsung purchases AMD, things will be much brighter in the x86 market and in the GPU market as well. Samsung could really expand on where ATI and AMD are planning to go. For example, ATI uses display chips in TVs and HDTVs, Samsung is a leader in producing TV and HDTVs, couple ATI in there with it's own products and BAM! You've got much better performance right from the get go. No longer would Samsung have to spend more to get an ATI display chip in its TVs, it could do it for cheaper, which would lower cost just on that front alone.

Samsung produces memory, AMD uses an IMC. Imagine the possibilities on that one for a moment.

Samsung also makes hard drives, not many, but they do make them. If you can discover ways to increase performance between the HDD, CPU, and GPU, as well as Memory, you'll get much better performance.

Samsung also does telecommunications, an acquisition of ATI would allow display chips in cell phones that are better and cheaper, couple that with an AMD chip and you got one good product.

Just looking at possibilities of what Samsung could potentially do to AMD and ATI is really interesting. If anything I think it would make the x86 market really heat up, and I think it would make memory heat up the most. Granted Samsung could produce it's own motherboards, CPUs, and GPUs, along with it's own memory. That in itself is a great platform in the making.

Just think about it...

Unless Larrabee does well in Q4 08.

Then it would be nVidia vs Intel on everything.

The bit about selling off ATi wouldn't be a horrible idea either.

Well the purchase was bad timing because they were in transition to a new socket, i see that being bad because there were stilla lot of fresh Socket 939 owners and DDR2 wasn't that cheap as it is today, which means more people won't move over to Socket AM2 and DDR2. Second, Intel released the Core 2 Duo series at almost the same time. Third, instead of having money to help transition them through the phase of Socket 939 and Socket AM2, along with new products, they than decide to purchase ATI and take a $5 billion hit. Not only this, but ATI did not release a new product for quite some time. In the end it really shows that it's taking a toll on the company, especially if sites are saying that you could get bought out. Imagine what other companies would do if they heard this sore of thing...

Just curious how much debt a company would be buying for $4.8B. Does that even matter?

Whatever happens I just hope Intel recieves some good competition.. I'd hate to go back to consoles...

Hi - AMD's current debt is $5.3 billion so the true acquisition price wouldn't be $4.8 billion, it would be $10.1 once the new buyer assumes AMD's debt. Its' return on assets is -6.76% and its' return on equity is -47.78%. These are all horrible numbers! I'll bet that there will be no offers for AMD until their stock is around $3-4 per share (perhaps sometime in the 2nd quarter of '08)...stevenpchurch

Ahh if this was the 80's some company would come in and buy up AMD just to part them out and make billions.... Thats what they should be worried about at that price, I think the FTC might step in but then again, they might not. ATI would be worth the cost of buying AMD alone and then you would have all those juicy fabs to sell. Of course im pretty sure AMD has enough debt to make something like this harder then it sounds.

In the UK we had a similar problem when NTL wanted to buy Telewest, as I recall what happened was that Telewest 'bought' NTL and then they renamed the new company NTL, with the old NTL boss at the top. I don't know the exact mechanics of it, so it might not be possible between AMD and Samsung, or whoever, but it would be amusing.

AMD is having a sale:

Buy one CPU manufacturer, and get a graphics company, FREE!

Really? Then the FTC does have jurisdiction.

Strange... I could have sworn their world HQ was in Canada... Oh well.. back to the crack pipe, I guess...

If it trades in the US stock market and is required to make SEC reports and follow SEC guidelines, wouldn't they be subject to the FTC and SEC?

Yes they would, and the SEC in particular wields immense power. But lets say that I was rich enough to make such an offer (I'm not) to buy controlling interest. Since the last bid was about $8.50, I might make an offer to buy at $10 and then obtain a mass of shares, perhaps more than the 51% I needed. The FTC would not do all that much beyond making sure I had the money and was not causing a monopoly of something, thereby violating the Sherman Antitrust Act. The SEC would make sure that I was not from another country or transferring control to somone of another country or doing something else less than honest. So while subject to the rules, the rules do not prevent such a sale from happening.

Last, once such a sale was approved, the company could in theory be taken off the stock market, turning it from a publically owned company to a privately owned one. That would require either total ownership or at least approval of the remaining stockholders, but it could be done. Whether or not that would be a good idea is a different subject and one I can't answer.

Sorry but I couldn't help but laugh when I read that one!

ATI's HQ was in Canada. It was closed when AMD consolidated it's HQs, and is under the same regulations (FTC) as AMD.

AMD did have to get permission from the Canadian government in order to purchase ATI in the firstplace, however.

TC your getting better at this lol! I almost forgot about that guy! when they eventually caught up with him, it was like 'ah your the guy who made an arse of himself in front of millions, thats punishment enough! ...well, have a nice day now'

I would say AMD's biggest worry is probably not that of going out of buisness at this stage, but being bought out. The idea of nvidia doing it seems laughable really. Theyve been going great guns the last 2 years, and wouldnt want to sh#t in their own bed buying control of AMD and picking up the interest payments on that debt. Although being the last independant mass market add-in graphics card maker might make them consider buying up a buisness in another related sector though.

Intel should buy in just to keep AMD afloat and the "competition" alive, just like M$ did with Apple.

Queen's english ... we have a queen at the moment

IBM's been "investing" in AMD for a long time by doing AMD's process research for them. The German government has been "investing" in AMD for a long time as well by giving AMD free fabs. Intel has gained a tiny benefit from the x86 license (it's a cross-license, after all), but obvioulsy it's pretty lopsided. Lots of parties have interest in AMD staying alive. But without the x86 license transferring (and Intel CAN stick it to whoever tries to buy the struggling AMD...perfectly legal), what company would be interested?

Only if the B3 fails.