Intel to drop overclocking for mainstream Nehalems

Lol, if this is true, all those people who held off buying until Nehalem comes out will be pissed. This is good, it means my currently oced quad will be useful for a longer period of time pitted against the weaker stock Nehalems.

Sure it does. How many people buy the "extreme" version cpus for $1000+ now? And how many people will if only those are capable of overclocking?

It does make sense, in a short sighted, Machiavellian kind of way:

1) AMD poses little threat, so there is little additional market share they are going to get there (i.e., exponentially more expensive to convert hardcore AMD fanboys); so
2) must maximize profitability from Intel purchasers;
3) to do so, must reduce the number of guys like me who buy an $80 processor, and overclock the heck out of it to the point where there is little reason to want to spend $175 more for a materially better (higher margin) processor.

Makes logical sense, unless it in turn converts a higher % of those who otherwise would be willing to buy the higher margin processors, to hardcore AMD fanboys. When enough of us become AMD fanboys, then it will be cheaper for them to win us back with superior, cheap high performance.

Until the equilibrium swings back in our favor (or until Intel legitimate completion from AMD), we are stuck.

Well I know AMD's cpu's have fallen behind......but they offer unlocked cpu's and they are their higher end chips (if you want to call them that) and at some point if AMD gets back on track and they continue to offer sub 200 dollar chips that have an unlocked multiplier then..............


Ahhh who cares.....................

It's an article published by Fudzilla without source reference on a Intel processor that is predicted by Intel to be released in Q4 2008.

It's all **** to get you're panties in a knot.

Amd has a built in memory controller and limited OC compared to Intels OCs.

Maybe Intel discovered this as well.

If they dont come with atleast a 3.0 stock clock and cant overclock at all, I doubt many will sell. Penrynns are great now, and if these new ones arent better; why upgrade?

Hopefully intel wont go a step backwards.

That would be gay to buy A new MOBO, DDR3 memory, and a Nehalem for little to no performance increase.

Only time will tell.

Technically Intel doesnt support overclocking now on non extreme CPUs. So it might be a bunch of BS since its from Fudzilla.

I don't think I needed to know that.

Intel's are way too far over priced. I'll stick to my affordable AMD chips rather than spend 10x as much for less than 3x the performance. $1500 for a single processor is completely ridiculous this isn't the 70's any more computers shouldn't be that overpriced.

If this is true, I don't think much can be done. The OCing population is rather small, like 3% of all pc users, so I'm not sure this will effect Intel much.

This could be good news to AMD however. They can take advantage of this and continue to sell those "BE" to OCers. But then again, perhaps Intel's cpus would be so ahead of AMD that a 1GHz Intel = 10GHz AMD?

Ah well, there's always mods...

what i bet my money on is that the new arch Intel preps will be a Server chip...much like Barcelona is. Those of us who aspected great things from phenom were dissapointed....so will be Intel fans....Sure it will scale better then AMD's (they had over a year and a half more 2 prepare it) Sure it will have a better IMC with DDR 3 and it will be the end of the Reign of the Opti's ...i jwst prey they learn from the mistakes AMD made and we will have a better desktop line then AMD's!!!

And so our lord has spoken. May anybody whose say otherwise be damned.

Agreed. Take Fudzilla articles with a grain of salt.

After all you guys do know what FUD stands for right?

I really don't care about what Nvidia likes or dislikes. I care about what works. If Nehalem works, fine and good. If it doesn't work, at least not all that well, then I'd contentedly keep running my present setup for a long time. Even if Nehalem does work decently, it might be a long time before it gets cheap enough and common enough for the rest of us.

well F*CK YOU INTEL. looking forward to Deneb even though i know jack all about it

Its really about wait and see... and those that jump on the bleeding edge will likely get burned IMO. There are still a lot of questions to be answered about Nehalem. From what I have gathered Nehalem is Intel’s answer to the more popular AMD server chips (and of course the dark empires attempt to deliver the coup de grace to AMD). As a consequence of that Nehalem has smaller cache which will probably adversely effect game performance and leave Wolfdale and Yorkfield the better choice for some time to come (not to mention price/performance). Of course the folks over at Intel marketing will take full advantage of the insignificance of AMD and stick it to the consumer in the form of outrageous prices, non-overclockable chips(w/o a large premium), unnecessary multiple platforms, disabling of HT w/o a premium etc. etc. I'm sure there will also be an additional mobo premium because of new Intel patents and of course Nvidia licensing for SLI. A 4|8 core with 8|16 threads is nice but hardware is ahead of most PC software and it could be years before the majority of games and applications take advantage of more than 1-2 threads even with forced affinity. I still have not seen a true answer to the memory voltage limitations of Nehalem. Until the memory manufacturers can pull it out your going to use slower DDR3 in a new platform? Of course those enthusiasts that bought high voltage performance DDR3 (i.e. DDR3 2000) will get burned (not to mention needing a 3rd stick for 3 way). Although Nvidia has been rumoured to be getting out of the chipset business Intel can now monopolize the Intel chipset business even further with new patents and licensing requirements.

The way I see it the biggest advantage of Nehalem is in hopefully forcing down prices of Wolfdale and Yorkfield. I'm perfectly happy with the performance of my Wolfdale and I will likely extend the systems life later on with a cheaper high end Yorkfield. Perfect example of Intel's monopolistic spite towards enthusiasts/OC'ers is the Q9650 vs QX9650. Same chip, same cache but double the price for one because it is unlocked. I just hope Intel continues to crank up Yorkfield. I'll probably buy one if they hit 3.16 or 3.33 for non-extreme and the price is right. What we really need is for AMD to pull their head out of their aho and give Intel some competition. Barring that Intel needs a good smack in the head from Justice in the form of another anti trust lawsuit.

^and neither do we. monopolies FTL.