Quik speedfan and temp question......or two.....err four.

ugh, this isn't a place to post every question you have.

1) If those are idle temps....what the hell is your ambient
2) Comp says in the guide that Tcase will be the one that increases in relation to the cores
3) GPU temps are not ambient
4) Temp 3 is nothing

I hope that is at stock because thats pretty low if overclocked

Don't use speedfan to monitor ambient...measure it yourself like the guide says thats why your calibrating, to make ambient right

Nothing there is right...

Cores are cooler than Tcase = impossible
both are lower than suspected ambient = impossible

First get a real ambient reading then try again

Correct.

You're very welcome.

I can't figure out how to set my CPU fan to 100%.

@Silverion77, thanks.

I finally made it though Section9: Calibration Part 2: Tcase Offset Correction.

I didn't expect speedfan to be off so much.

Current Idle temps while browsing.

Temp1: 36
Tcase: 24
TjCore1:34
TjCore0:34

I measured ambient temp with the side off and all fans at 100%, with a fish tank thermometer. @ 72F or ~22C

Tcase temp. (originally Temp2 in Speedfan) = Ambient Temp + 1C = 23C

Speedfan was not reading Tcase temp @ 24C, I had to offset speedfans number by adding 2 in the advanced settings.

Tjunction Temps = Tcase Temp + 10C = 34C

Speedfan was not reading Tjunction temps @ 34C, I had to offset speefans numbers by adding 17 to both cores in the advanced settings.

Let me know if anybody sees a problem with these numbers.

CPU-Z has me at M0 Stepping

As far as I can tell, I made it through the Temp guide and SpeedFan is correctly calibrated.

Because Core Temp can also be incorrect, and because Core Temp can not be configured with Offset corrections.

What is your ambient and what is your Tjunction (once calibrated)?

sorry just forgot

If ambient is 22 and Tj atm is 34 calibrated (stock speeds??) then that is right. If you recall, ambient + 10+-5 = Tj

Under any conditions....before calibration Tj was 9C (impossible without chilled water/phase change) and adding 10 would give 19 (still sub-ambient) so 25 is right in the ball park

For accuracy, I use two devices; one analog and one digital, positioned as described in Part 2 (A), "preferably near computer case air intake, clear of warm exhaust".

If you don't have an analog or digital IR thermometer, then use the thermometer on the wall thermostat control. Just remember to take into consideration that computers which are in a different room than a wall thermostat, and are at floor level, may have somewhat cooler intake air than those which are a few feet higher at desk level.

It is not my intention in the Guide to make this Ambient measurement difficult, nor is it necessary for anyone to purchase scientific grade thermal measuring devices; just use whatever means available to read, or simply "guesstimate" room temperature near your computer air intake.

Comp

On the contrary, attention to detail is a required discipline in career fields such as aviation. As an engineer, it helps to stimulate my Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, and perhaps "anal retentive perfectionist" may best describe the desired mindset. I would hope that the flight crew, as well as the ground crew, are all OCD whacko's.

@Silverion77

Just remember, when your flying, don't flip anybody the bird unless your inverted.

Silverion77, you seem to be a sharp young man, so since you asked, here's the abridged version:

My background is in electronics engineering technologies. I formally began my career in the US Navy in aviation, which gave me the education, training and experience to work for top companies like General Electric and Philips. My resume includes Avionics, marine electrical power distribution systems, and I'm currently a medical imaging engineer specializing in MRI & CT systems, which are driven by high-end SCSI/Unix computer systems such as Silicon Graphics and Sun Microsystems.

My first and best talent has always been troubleshooting, so I became a field engineer, since I had no desire to work as a research and developement (R&D) engineer. I hold a pilot's license as well as a captain's license, and my computer and I live aboard my sailboat in Fort Lauderdale. As a hobby, I also work with a local build-to-order PC shop to acquire data for my Temperature Guide.

Comp

Please... it's never been anything as glamorous as you might think... I can tell you with absolute certainty that as a young man, my decision to get into electronics and Naval aviation was the single best choice I've ever made in my life. Launching from an Aircraft Carrier is absolutely awsome, so if you're interested in launching a technical career, then the military is an excellent place to start. I'm no recruiting poster boy, but it worked out extremely well for me.

BTW, what version of CoreTemp gives my correct Tj. Max. of 100C?

I'm running 0.96.1 and it's giving me 85C.

Scale 1: Duo
E4x00: Tcase Max 73c, M0 Stepping, Tjunction Max 100c, Vcore Default 1.325, TDP 65w, Delta 10c
E2xx0: Tcase Max 73c, M0 Stepping, Tjunction Max 100c, Vcore Default 1.312, TDP 65w, Delta 10c
E6x50: Tcase Max 72c, G0 Stepping, Tjunction Max 100c, Vcore Default 1.350, TDP 65w, Delta 10c
E6540: Tcase Max 72c, G0 Stepping, Tjunction Max 100c, Vcore Default 1.350, TDP 65w, Delta 10c

This is from the temp guide.

I have the E2160. My CoreTemp reads Revision: M0 but the Tjunction Max is set to 85C.

Some how I was thinking of the E6600. Meh.

Crystal CPUID does not show Tjunction Max. Only Core Temp shows Tj Max. Also, in conjunction with the release of Core Temp 0.96.1, Scale 1 has been updated especially for M0 Stepping processors. Sorry this particular update to the Guide has been delayed, but a great deal time was required to verify and document DTS calibration exceptions found with "some" M0 processors.

Getting clear and specific information from Intel is usually like trying to get the Secret Service, the CIA and the FBI to agree to release the first Lady's recipe for chocolate chip cookies. A certain amount of research and resourceful evaluation was be required to sort out these M0 thermal inconsistencies.

The most notable characteristic of the M0 is a relatively small Tcase to Tjunction Delta of ~5c as well as low Tjunction Idle temperatures compared to other Core 2 variants. Additionally, the M0 is typically somewhat less tolerant of high Vcore, which causes temperatures to scale higher than other variants at the same Vcore. Tj max 85c is correct for the majority of M0 processors, and will become less of an issue as shelf stock is replaced.

Comp