PS3 - PS3 Firmware: 720p on Blu-ray?

You are mistaken. PS3 is capable of down-converting Blu-Ray movies to 720p just fine. (BTW, it's 720p , not 780p.) What is does not do is up-convert standard DVDs to 720p or 1080i/p. Word on the street is that a future firmware update will add DVD up-scaling, but no official word from Sony. Some believe this would undermine their efforts to make Blu-Ray the next optical disc standard. If regular DVDs can be up-converted to look almost like an HD image, why buy Blu-Ray or HD discs? I think this argument is weak at best because a good HDMI up-converting DVD player can be had for under $200 now. I hope Sony does add it in the future. It will make a great system even better.

The PS3 is a sweet machine; enjoy it.

Ryan

In Sony OS you can choose 720p, 1080i, 1080p and something else i forget. I think it upscales on the 1080p/i. In Linux Yellow Dog mode it functions the same way. Next few patches it is supposed to upscale reguler DVD's.

They just enabled the WiFI in the most recent PS3 update and YDL patch so it is slowly progressing. There have allready been something like 5 or 6 Sony patches. Over 500 linux Yellow Dog patches.

This is the potential problem you were talking about. The problem was newly introduced HD tv's that only supported 1080i and not 720p. The result was that because the PS3 does not have a upscalar capable of converting 720p to 1080i it would then have to output the image in 480p.


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All i was doing was referring to the problem that he was trying to figure out. Unfortunately though the problem is not solved with the firmware update and since you have an EDTV you wouldn't be able to know the difference between a true 1080i source or the PS3.

So hmm, how does 960x1080 automatically equal 1080i at all? Well it doesn't and thats why the PS3 scaling problem isn't solved.

For you it doesn't really matter that the PS3 doesn't scale if you have an EDTV. An EDTV has a native resolution of 480p so it cannot display any more detail than the panels native resolution of 852x480 anyway. (You may see a small improvement with HD sources over 480 sources because of supersampling.) You are losing a lot more than 10%. Your EDTV has just over 400,000 pixels. A 1080i/p image requires just under 2.1 million pixels. You are actually missing over 80% of a 1080i picture with an EDTV. (I won't get into differences in temporal resolution between the formats. That's for another discussion.)

Ryan

HDTV 720p, 1080i
not 1080p

Thats my TV. I know that games the PS3 can convert easily to 720p. I'm just wondering about blu ray movies, wich some say cannot be downscaled to 720p (in theory the PS3 engine converts to 480p if your TV is not full 1080p)

That link sure looks reasonable... does anyone know if it is true?

You misread my previous post as well as you must not have read the link from IcY18. PS3 does scale Blu-Ray movies; it does not scale games. The game must be designed for either 720p or 1080i/p specifically.

You should read what everyone is providing before assuming you are being called stupid even though no such thing happened. Everyone here is trying to help you with your question, myself included. You should try to be a bit more appreciative.

The short answer to your question is that as of the current PS3 firmware, you will be able to enjoy Blu-Ray movies scaled down to 720p on your television. Gaming resolution will depend on the exact title you are playing. Even if a game supports 480p and 1080i only, since your TV accepts 1080i too, it will automatically convert it to 720p internally. The PS3 is going to work great with your TV.

Ryan

You misread my previous post as well as you must not have read the link from IcY18. PS3 does scale Blu-Ray movies; it does not scale games. The game must be designed for either 720p or 1080i/p specifically.

You should read what everyone is providing before assuming you are being called stupid even though no such thing happened. Everyone here is trying to help you with your question, myself included. You should try to be a bit more appreciative.

The short answer to your question is that as of the current PS3 firmware, you will be able to enjoy Blu-Ray movies scaled down to 720p on your television. Gaming resolution will depend on the exact title you are playing. Even if a game supports 480p and 1080i only, since your TV accepts 1080i too, it will automatically convert it to 720p internally. The PS3 is going to work great with your TV.

Ryan

If thats so, I am sorry. But by reading your post once again I find it almost calling me silly for not knowing which is my TV res. I do know how many pixels I get in each mode. I know that Marvel UA is on 1080p and the PS3 will scale it to 720p in my TV. What I want to know is IF i put a blu ray disc (defaul 1080p) on the PS3 it will give me a 480p picture as in the beggining or by firmware updates Sony now knows that the majority will want it to be scaled to 780p. From the link I`ve posted people are "cheating" on the PS3: if you put 1080p as your default for movies it will be scaled to 480p on TV`s like mine. What they do is set as defaul 1080i for movies, and then our own TV scales the movie to 720p. That`s a hat trick!

lol thats the oposite of the link: they say games can be scaled by the Cell to 720p and movies can't. Anyway, can I set diferent res for movies and games or will I have to change it every time I decide to watch a blu ray?

And thanks for the effort