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My 2cents worth on the matter:

I got my new computer 2 months ago. It's from Dell so Vista came by default on my new rig. I was a little hesitante but I figure, heck, if I hate Vista I'll reformat and install my older XP OS that's all. Afterall, I've read and heard so much negative things on it it gave doubts.

2 months later I can say that I have had on very minor issues with Vista and that overall, it runs well. Indeed my computer is brand new so that will explain it. However, I can still run older games like Master of Orion 2 on it with no glitches. The only issue I have had right now is with Outlook 2002 that can't save the username and password when you first open it for your session. It's a minor thing though and I was actually thinking of upgrading to 2007 as I loved what I have tried on the demo. Ditto and slow booting though.

If I hadn't changed computers though I have to admit I would of stuck with XP. There would of been no way, Vista would have ran correctly on it. Moral of the story, if you get a brand new computer, you might as well get Vista.

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Reply to riser

Go w/ XP Pro sp2 64-bit! much stronger and more stable and recognizes more ram than older XPs. Vista isn't ready yet (read all the threads). As a WoW gamer, it's killer!

Reply to shiva d

Vista is rubbish.

Don't use it, "DX10" now is no different to XP, I've seen some Vista VS XP crysis screenshots, and they look no different,

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Reply to jonisginger

Go with XP. Remember THE inventor of 3D shootem ups? Yes, it was John Carmack leading ID Software. The inventor of lightning/shadows also. Now he has created another engine that will kick ass.....it's called the idtech 5 engine. The first DX9 game to shine on this engine will be the game "Rage". You should see some demo trailer of Rage displayed at Quakecon 2007. The gamemap was created in 10 days and the Artists have the ability to edit the game running within the engine itself. This is an artists dream come true as they can edit and develop in realtime. And best of all is....it's DX9 and you dont even need DX10. So no Vista or expensive 8800 card needed. You say Crysis? hehe...better wait another year before crysis can be played respectivly at 60 FPS. I still have to see the first DX10 card that will be capable of doing so. But than again...will the multiplayer mode of that game be worth the money? Dunno. I feel a bit sad for the people who've saved a lot of money on their first DX10 card while crysis allready makes them obsolete as it runs at 20 FPS. Talking about money....they also bought Vista for it. $$$ for what.....the first dx10 game they can't even play at the high quality dx10 level it supposed to be played in? No, they have to put this game on medium allready. Bye bye $$$. I'm glad I've did my homework and bought a X1950XT.
Anways....back to other cool stuff to come. The IDtech 5 engine is very versatile. When it renders the game it will automaticly render it to MAC OSX/WINDOWS/Consoles formats. That means the games running on that engine are also being released on those platforms. DX9 is not dead yet. Many game developing companies can't wait to get a fast developing engine in their power. This way it will not take like 4 or more years to develop a high quality game anymore. So my guess is....stay with XP because this new DX9 based engine will kick ass.

Message edited by SyPheR on 12-05-2007 at 03:37:35 AM

Reply to SyPheR

There really isn't a major downside to having Vista for gaming vs. using XP. You're talking about having the latest technology vs. something that came out back in 2001. YES there have been many many updates for XP and the up coming XP SP3 will bring a lot more. Still, there is nothing wrong with having the latest thing. It wont hurt you AND you'll be use to the new OS by the time it's ready to take advantage of the new games. And yes one day you willl HAVE to have Vista, so you might as well get it now.

Reply to Mavrick88

Ive just bought a new computer with the E6750, 8800GT, 2gig RAM etc. I plan on getting Vista 32 bit. Sure, if i already had my computer for a while with XP installed, i probably wouldnt upgrade at the moment, but seeing as I'm getting a new computer with an 8 series card, i think it makes sense to go with vista. I chose 32 bit because i really wont the computer to be stable and compatable, aka i just want less issues. Thats the plan anyway, im still open to peoples thoughts if they have any...

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Reply to fordy9

XP vs Vista......XP

I have had enough of Microsoft's bugged disgrace of an operating system Vista. My games run worse, Blue screens constantly and freezing are just some of the issues I have been facing.

I bought Vista because I was stupid and listened to the hype about better security and Direct X 10 Gaming. Direct X 10 has in my opinion turned out to be an over hyped load of Junk resulting in much less performance than DX9 mode of a game while offering little visually, it's a joke!

Vista includes a Security feature called 'User Acount Control', which constantly asks for 'Allow' or 'Deny'. It might sound like a good idea, but constant alerts become annoying and I have have found certain software not to function properly when it's enabled.

My computer is capable and all of my hardware is Vista capable with latest drivers installed, but Vista is unstable. I often have a blue screen dump before I can enter windows and random freezes while I am working in the operating system.

Vista is junk

Message edited by speedbird on 12-15-2007 at 01:51:21 PM

Reply to speedbird

ok.....but that aside, don't you think that its sensible to go with vista if your getting a brand new computer, not just upgrading an old one?

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Reply to fordy9

fordy9 wrote :

ok.....but that aside, don't you think that its sensible to go with vista if your getting a brand new computer, not just upgrading an old one?

I don't think new computer buyers will have much choice when XP is stopped. However presently (to Microsoft's dislike) many computer manufacturers are still offering XP, that itself proves that people are wary of Microsoft's vista Junk.

The problem with Vista is it's hardly an upgrade from XP, well apart from some minor usability improvements and fancy effects. However for offering so little it's much more bloated and more Buggy. I'm not the only one who hates Vista, do a Google to see what I mean.

I have downgraded (or Should I say Upgraded lol) my machine back to XP.

Reply to speedbird

I'll be getting a new comp here this week. Q6600 OC to 3.0Ghz/2gig of 1066mhz/Os is on a 74gig raptor drive, with a 320gig drive for games and stuff/680i mobo/Vista Premium-64bit/8800GT. I'm thinking of probably dropping another 2gigs of ram in it in January or end of Dec. All cost $2400 at www.DigitalStormOnline.com. Its all inside a full tower case http://www.silverstonetek.com/prod [...] 9&area=usa

So yeah there it is.

Reply to Devil_Dog

Bobjeee wrote :

cmon, only vista supports directx10 and its a total wast of money to buy a 8800gt and afterwards letting it drive under xp with directx9

I thought the same when I purchased my 2900pro, but now I realise DX10 is all hype and XP is better for games despite being DX9.

Reply to speedbird

Hmm... seems everyone has their own flavor here. I personally really like Vista on my gaming rig. I like the way Vista manages the memory.. especially when it comes to load times for my games. I also like how much more secure vista is comparitively. With user account control and a windows defender that actually works.. they are just a couple extra tools to stop invasive and malicious programs.

And yes that does play into one game I play (wow) when getting mods for the game.. I am paranoid of any user created mod.. because there is no telling what "could" be in the program and be malicious.

My rig even runs Supreme Commander like a dream .. dual screen with 1,000 units on the map.

As long as you have the correct drivers that are compatible with Vista for all your hardware.. you should have no problems making Vista your new gaming platform.

People dont like change.. its a proven fact that we dont. I didnt want to go to Vista.. but I am glad I did now. I remember when I was hardcore Win2k back in the day and thought XP was crap. Once I went to XP.. I realized it was actually not that bad at all. I have 2 gaming PC's.. one is XP .. one is Vista. I prefer playing on the vista machine.. and the hardware is on par between both rigs.

The only thing I could state is.. if you dont have 2 gigs of RAM + .. dont go to Vista. If you do.. you should consider it.

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Reply to Cirga

Cirga wrote :

I also like how much more secure vista is comparitively. With user account control and a windows defender that actually works.. they are just a couple extra tools to stop invasive and malicious programs.

Vista is more secure from default I'll grant that because it includes Windows Defender and the annoying User account feature , but Defender can be downloaded and installed into XP too. I don't believe Vista is any more secure than XP, once an XP system has the appropriate security software installed and has the latest updates installed from Microsoft.

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Reply to speedbird

I used vista ultimate 64 bit for several months just to try it out and let me tell you.....stick with xp......I just put xp back on my computer and it is much better for gaming right now.....I wouldn't play with vista unless most game are direct 10....which is what I will do once that happens.....but for now I would stick with xp

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Reply to Mrking

speedbird wrote :

Vista is more secure from default I'll grant that because it includes Windows Defender and the annoying User account feature , but Defender can be downloaded and installed into XP too. I don't believe Vista is any more secure than XP, once an XP system has the appropriate security software installed and has the latest updates installed from Microsoft.

I think by default is the exact reason I stated that. When you default security settings of that nature it takes less user intervention.. which equals more overall security for "every" end user. Also, I am not sure if you have tried Windows defender on XP.. but on both of my rigs that still run XP I dare not touch that.. for it caused quite a few problems for me after installing.

Also, dont forget how Vista handles networks it attaches to. You tell Vista if the network is private or public etc.. and it shuts off alot of features by "default" based upon your selection. If you select a public network it actually shuts off file sharing.. making you safer on a public LAN or WAN. And its quite idiot proof to boot.. as soon as you connect to a new network Vista goes through and prompts you asking you teh questions needed to properly secure your system.

I run XP and Vista.. and while I hated Vista at first.. afte rusing it for a while and seeing what they have actually added to the OS.. I feel its worthwhile for an average user. But that doesnt mean everyone is going to like it and/or use it. In a way I find it a bit amusing that so many are vehement haters of the new OS. But hey I should not be surprised.. everyone is afraid of change in just about every aspect of daily life.

Reply to Cirga

Mrking wrote :

I used vista ultimate 64 bit for several months just to try it out and let me tell you.....stick with xp......I just put xp back on my computer and it is much better for gaming right now.....I wouldn't play with vista unless most game are direct 10....which is what I will do once that happens.....but for now I would stick with xp

Key here is.. "64" bit. The 64 bit version of XP is horrible to use too. Have you tried the "32" bit version of Vista?

Reply to Cirga

I want to say something too. Blah Blah Blah Blah.

Vista will be standard in the next year. XP is more stable and mature right now. If you have the money, go with XP and buy Vista in eight months to a year. If your concerened about money, get Vista.

I'd like to add that I don't have Vista and my response is purely developed from other's responses and therefore worthless.

I think that the retail version of Vista Ultimate also comes with 32bit and 64bit. It also costs twice as much as OEM. I think they do that on purpose.

Reply to rickpatbrown

Stay with Vista at least for one more year. Why upgrade to vista? in 2009 WIndows Vienna will launch. You have another alternative, Dual Boot xp and Vista. With vista you will loose about 10 to 15% game performance. Me and my 15 programming group we dont have to upgrade to vista to play Only Dx 10 games. We found the way to hack DX 10 to integrate to XP and some other modification to play only Vista games into XP. Just like other group of programmers found the way to convert Xp pro to Media center. Soon we will post benchmarks xp Dx 10 vs Vista Dx 10, and a video of Halo 2 running on both OS. xp Dx 10 has a 13% increase than vista. Unfortunately we wont share our final software to the world due to illegal issues. The video will show the world is possible and has been done. It was a six month project. Our Next project is to run pc games in ubuntu without Cedega or other emulator. We will integrate Dx 10 and tons of Windows Xp files to run pc games native on linux. Will take us about 1 year 8 month to accomplish this.

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Reply to rickpcnerd

rick,

why would a hack into dx-10 have legal consequences as it is not an infringement in copy rights as dx - 10 is an industry standard that can be used by anyone.

P. S. --- maybe you could post hack as torrent file to be shared by everyone --- i like the concept of your hack --- but difficult to say wehter the hack really exists as its only your word with no third party verification

Reply to dsharp9000

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I think that the retail version of Vista Ultimate also comes with 32bit and 64bit. It also costs twice as much as OEM. I think they do that on purpose.

Yes but for a nominal fee you can exchange the OEM or upgrade ver of any Vista, except perhaps Basic, for the 64 bit ver. It's about $10 I think.

Reply to notherdude

winrot wrote :

Hey folks. I could really use some advice. I am making a new gaming computer. (And really, I am mostly using it for gaming and music). I have to purchase a new OS anyway, should I upgrade to Vista or Stick with XP. Is DX 10 the must have for future games?

If I go with Vista, What version should I get. Do I need Ultimate or will Home premium do?

If I do get Vista what prices are reasonable? Are there any downsides to OEM versions?

Thanks for the help.

I'LL SELL MY COPY OF Vista ULTIMATE CHEAP I WENT BACK TO XP 64 AFTER 4 MONTHS

Reply to DadEOh

fordy9 wrote :

Ive just bought a new computer with the E6750, 8800GT, 2gig RAM etc. I plan on getting Vista 32 bit. Sure, if i already had my computer for a while with XP installed, i probably wouldnt upgrade at the moment, but seeing as I'm getting a new computer with an 8 series card, i think it makes sense to go with vista. I chose 32 bit because i really wont the computer to be stable and compatable, aka i just want less issues. Thats the plan anyway, im still open to peoples thoughts if they have any...

If your mother board is more than a couple years old and it isn't top of the line check closely before upgrading to VISTA I ended up reverting back to XP because of the lack of sound drivers

Reply to DadEOh

Well, I personally would say go with XP if you have it, but go with Vista if its going to be a new build.

Vista is going to continue to mature, sp1 is available now via torrents and will officially be available in a few weeks.

I am currently running vista with sp1, it works well. I used it for about 8 months, ditched it for xp for a few weeks.

In all honesty I missed the quick find on the start menu, type in the name of the program and it pops up. I also missed the sidebar gadgets. I tried looking for an alternative, but no one makes those same ones.

As long as you are up to date on drivers, download the latest program versions and updates. You should be ok.

I game on my vista machine regularly, Crysis, Cod4, sins of a solar empire, guitar hero 3 etc. Even supreme commander.

I have had no issues really. But once again you have got to keep up with the drivers, video being the most important.

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Reply to cranbers

I'll also put one in for Vista x64, changed from XP and playing games is no different at all, we are talking a 5% performance difference if any. Basically you will not know the difference unless you sit there recording FPS.

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Reply to Rackers

Rackers wrote :

I'll also put one in for Vista x64, changed from XP and playing games is no different at all, we are talking a 5% performance difference if any. Basically you will not know the difference unless you sit there recording FPS.

Couldn't agree more. I've been bouncing back and forth between vista and XP pro on my desktop and, there really is no difference. I choose to run XP because it is compatible with everything I've got where as Vista isn't.

Now, I just bought a new Dell XPS M1530 with Vista on it and it runs phenomenal on that. Games really well too

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Reply to Luminaris

when my XP setup stops working i may use vista 64
i do dual boot XP 32 and Vista 64 and i do still use XP more

there are things that i like on vista and Xp

Vista > superfetch idea works well, looks better , 64 support is better , DX10 ? , UAC? good idea but i turnd it off as some programs just did not like it, some bad things on Vista tho, System restore now has Volume shadow service (all vers do) as part of it now can can make your hard disk go bonkers for some time (up to an hr untill it fails), other problem Superfetch is not pauseing when other programs are accessing the hard disk at the same time and can degrade performace when you just exited an an program that used alot of ram, other problem and most likey why i not useing vista right now is that my X-FI sound card does not work right and teamspeak is an little buggy on it as well, get an odd BSOD {nvidia} some times as well, but thats more an program+Vista WDDM fault

XP > every thing works on xp, xp 64 is now more suported due to Vista been 32 and 64 now,
removel of malware does not require you to format your PC once its been removed most of the vista pcs i clean up requre an reload, its alot easy to fix problems on XP then vista (norm not requireing reload), not sure what i can complane about XP realy DX10 is not intresting me at all due to hardware out now cant handle it any way

If you want an no fuss pc XP is an better OS to use every thing will work it give you less problems (Any vista only games will be crap any way so thats not an problem), you can allways Buy Vista or windows 7 in 2-3 years or when thay drop support for XP, does not matter if you think vista is better or is better then XP get the one that will best sute your needs

i would recommend Vista only on new fast hardware, you should allways aim for 2gb ram min any less its an typewriter (3-4gb if gameing) on vista dual core cpu and alot would most likey say its not that much of an improvement use 2 disks in raid 0, i could never use this gameing pc with out raid 0 just to slow Vista just hammers the hard disk (its like it thinks i am running SSD drives, norm hdds do not like random read and writes)

this topic has gone on for an bit

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Reply to leexgx

You don't need RAID 0... though it is quite nice to have. My laptop with 2GB of RAM and Intel dual-core CPU runs quite nicely on Home Premium. It even games well... considering it has Intel integrated graphics.

If you have at least 2GB and plenty of room on your hard drive, Vista should run quite well on modern hardware... especially with a good vid card.

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Reply to Zoron

What OS?
Vista Home Premium. Go x64 if you want 4GB's of RAM or More.
Vista Ultimate isnt worth all the extra money. Go with Home Premium.

Retail or OEM?
As someone already said OEM is the Same thing but you get no Tech Support. Its also Cheaper than Retail.

Reply to joelg88

sorry. I didnt even notice how old this thread is lol

Reply to joelg88

Vista. You will need dx10 for games sooner or later.

I think vista is a fine OS, don't get me wrong xp is great, I also have dual booted with linux for a long time and also enjoy using OSX. I dual booted with XP on my pc until recently where I went completely vista x64. My PC is x2 5000+, 9600GT, 4 GB RAM. There is at most a couple frames difference (Negligible) in my games which include crysis, Orangebox, cod4, Quake Wars, CS:S, GHIII, BF2, BF2142, and Bioshock. They are all maxed out at 1440x900 except crysis. Crysis is actually a little smoother for me on vista.

I have had no stability or performance problems with vista, it actually seems more responsive and boots faster than XP, So I have had nothing to complain about.

For an older PC XP

New gaming Rig? Definitely vista.

The only thing vista really needs for good performance is RAM, and DDR2 is REALLY cheap right now. I got this ram for less than i got 1 GB of DDR for a couple years ago.

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Reply to ThreatDown

Oatmeal has it right in that XP is a better OS than Vista today but the future is with Vista, specifically Vista 64. I had intended on holding out until the next OS (Windoze7) because of the extra resources Vista demands. It's a simple truth that a game running on Vista has a (slightly) lower fps than XP.

So why did I change? I saw first hand that the end was in sight for 32 bit OS's with the THQ game Supreme Commander when it ran out of memory. You see Windoze 32 bit OS's (both XP and Vista) give 2 GB to an application and if that application uses more than 2 GB - crash. SupCom is that first but there will be more games that slam into the 2 GB barrier. Company of Heroes and Cryis come very close and game will only get bigger over time.

So I'm sure you can see that the 64 bit argument doesn't favour Vista 64 over XP 64 but there's more. Drivers. If you look at where most companies are spending their time developing drivers XP 64 is at the bottom of the list. 32 bit drivers are easy to find but there are more 64 bit Vista drivers then XP 64.

At the end of the day, it's your choice. XP32 is a mature and stable (for Micro$oft) OS but it's life is at an end. Vista 32 is horrible because it can not run large programs and it consumes more system resources. I switched last month to Vista 64 so I could run large games and have future drivers.

This being said, it has not been all roses switching to Vista... half of the games I tried need a tweak to get running but so far only one will not run at all. (due to the Copy Protection not recognizing Vista as a valid OS). The list is on another forum: the Vista32 vs 64 so I won't double post.

Enjoy your games, whatever OS you choose,
Falcon688

Reply to Falcon688

I suggest 64bit Ultimate. I build and sell high-end gaming rigs and haven't built an XP gaming rig in 6 months. Anyone who says that XP is the OS for gaming isn't a hardcore gamer cuz all the 3-$5000 gaming rigs people order from me have Vista. XP and DX9 is yesterdays news. Make sure you get the Vista with SP1, do all the Windows updates and install the latest drivers for your hardware, especially the video card. Use 4GBs of high performance ram like Corsair XMS. Then play Crysis, Bioshock, Lost Planet, COD 4 in DX10 and enjoy. Everytime a new OS comes out there are crybabies whining about it. Happened when XP came out and will happen when Windows Whatever comes out. If people are happy with XP and dont want any of the extra features Vista has they should just stick with XP and quit messing their computers up trying to put an OS in when they really haven't a clue about how to do it and tweak it to run right. I'm in the biz so I have a lot of computers myself, including 2 Extreme gamers, one with Vista and one with XP. I use the XP rig for the older games and the Vista rig for the new games. When i have company the Vista rig, by far, gets the most use.

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Reply to jamstan

7.....windows 7

The DX10.1 boost seen in Assassin's Creed or whatever it was is pretty interesting though. The upcoming Windows 7 gets me PO though. I really hope there aren't new OS releases every 2 years now.

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Reply to SpinachEater

The problem with Vista is, it needs significantly more computer power to achieve what XP can already do. Gaming in truth needs 4GB in Vista for best results, while XP will usually run great on 2GB. DX10 gaming is far from taking off, take Crysis for example it's technically stunning on very high with AA, just no systems that can run it well.
I'm tempted to ditch PC gaming gaming eventually and start using a Console, cheaper and graphics look good on a HD TV.

Reply to speedbird

If you got a DX 10 video card go vista, if you still have dx9c video card go with XP

Reply to maximiza

XP no questions asked VISTA is just a really bad operating system.

Reply to Flakes

i'm contemplating vista.. was gonna up to 4gigs..

but, is DX10 even close to being optimized for gaming yet?

Reply to azmyth

I don't know, I just got my copy of Vista 64bit ultimate OEM, installing tonight. I still have a DX9 video card though. I have actually heard difficulies when installing with 4 gigs. You upgrade the memory later after installaion.

Reply to maximiza

I have no problems with Vista Home Premium 64 Bit what-so-ever. I had to do a few reinstalls when first messin with it, but hey i was tryin to learn it. imo Vista is not a bad os, all the aggrevating things can be disabled, ie the "Are you sure" box can be turned off. just my 2 cents

Reply to bushmastertd

If you are staying with 32 bit OS then stay with XP.
If you want to go to a 64 bit OS and your Hardware is less than two years old, and you have 4 Gig Ram then Vista Home Premium.

Reply to Cuddles

My Vista 64 bit ultimate seems to faster the Xp 32 bit, and I only have 2 gigs of ram. It definitly is better then XP. Had a problem with punbkbuster but found a fix for it.

Reply to maximiza

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Reply to Scotteq

I haven't been using Vista long, but my opinion would be to go with Vista only if you have plenty of RAM, fast CPU, and the game is "Vista certified" or similar.

Reply to MTHall51

I went with Vista for some very good reasons. I wanted to go beyond 3 GB of Ram so a 64 bit OS was a must. I wanted an OS that felt secure and I didn't need to worry about Viruses and junk like that. XP has issues in that department. With 8 GB of Ram you don't need Virtual Memory. It's pretty sweet not to have Virtual Memory as things just seem to run faster. Give Prefetch some time and pretty soon you'll notice the increases in speed that you wouldn't get in XP.
I had my computer duel booted for a while with XP and Vista but I never went back to XP. I had way less issues with Vista than I did with XP. Even now my wife has begun to worm her way up to my Vista Machine and I would say my computer and hers is the same just I use Vista and she has XP but she notices that things just open faster and works better on mine.

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Reply to Cuddles

Cuddles wrote :

I wanted an OS that felt secure and I didn't need to worry about Viruses and junk like that. XP has issues in that department

Vista also has issues in that department

While Vista has more security features than XP built in from Default, It still needs Anti-Virus because it's still vulnerable to Viruses and spyware. Linux based operating systems are far more secure and it's not because of the smaller user base.

Reply to speedbird

i just tasted vista dx10.geez its crap, i aint gaming with my face glued to the monitor so i cant see the rendering advatanges of dx10 compared to dx9 (crysis, gearsofwar)..

big mistake. i even lost my surround sound. im planning to return my vista copy to the vendor and get my money back.

vista isnt ready for primetime yet.maybe after a year or two.

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Reply to wh3resmycar

Since I just recently switched from XP to Vista64, and pretty much only use my computer at home for web browsing and games, I thought I'd add to the pile of replies.

I am completely and totally impressed with Vista64 so far. It installed effortlessly - didn't need to ask me but one or two questions and the setup was done. Rebooted, updated my video, chipset and mouse drivers, and then tried HalfLife2. Zero issues. Next tried Bioshock. Zero issues. Next WoW. Zero issues. Next Lineage2. This one surprised me because I am getting a ton of issues on my old XP installation (same hardware, different disk). Zero issues on Vista64.

The OS is just solid. I have not had a single crash or system hangup since installing, and I have been gaming intensively so I could testdrive my new hardware. For reference, I got an E8400, 2x2 GB Mushkin RAM, Gigabyte EP35-DS3L mobo, and a WD SE16 640 GB disk (the newer one that only needs two platters). Just listing stats so you know that this combo gets along with Vista perfectly well.

My friends are having issues with their 32 bit versions. But I read so many postiive things about Vista64 that I went that route. I think its actually more stable to be honest (and clearly more forward-thinking).

Reply to bobbank

For future reference

PC World - "...even Gartner, that prophet of Windows' doom, forecasts that Vista will be more popular at the end of this year than XP was at a similar juncture -- with 28% of the PC operating system installed base worldwide, vs. 22% for XP at the end of 2003"

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscen [...] s_day.html

Intel upgrades to Windows 2000 six months after Windows XP was released:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inqu [...] over-winxp

Sluggish corporate adoption of Windows XP:
http://www.computerworld.com/print [...] 76,00.html

Microsoft offers new licensing terms and other incentives to jump-start stalled corporate XP adoption:
http://www.crn.com/it-channel/18821819

Three years after release, XP uptake still too slow:
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0 [...] 00.htm?r=8

Four long years after XP release, more corporate desktops still using Windows 2000:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Windows/X [...] Years-End/

Message edited by Scotteq on 08-27-2008 at 08:59:19 PM

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wh3resmycar wrote :

i just tasted vista dx10.geez its crap, i aint gaming with my face glued to the monitor so i cant see the rendering advatanges of dx10 compared to dx9 (crysis, gearsofwar)..

big mistake. i even lost my surround sound. im planning to return my vista copy to the vendor and get my money back.

vista isnt ready for primetime yet.maybe after a year or two.

You can't return open software... once you break that seal, install the software and start using it, you've agreed to the license terms and that usally means not being able to return it. How does the store know you didn't make a bazillion copies of it before returning it?

Vista is perfectly ready... you're just not ready for Vista.

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best way to find out is if you have both Operating systems.

in 3dmark06,pcmark05 and sciencemark

i scored higher with Vista. than i do when i switch over to XP.

my vista out performs my XP sp2, SP3, and another comp with same specs running xp corp edition.

If anyone tells you Vista is Garbage. then disregard anything else they say.

then again. even with vista being new. Windows 7 will be out soon

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