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Ok so im getting ready 2 purchase the Home Premium version of Vista and im wondering what the diff is between the oem and retail. I heard something about the retail you can install in more then one computer so i thought i would ask

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You cannot install retail on more than one computer. The difference is this:

OEM: If you significantly upgrade your computer and reinstall Windows, your license is no longer good because the license was for that specific configuration and machine. Whether or not M$ can actually tell that you've upgraded remains to be seen. (i.e., do they know your specific hardware configuration? don't know yet.)

Retail: you can install Windows as many times as you want on different configurations. But ONLY on one machine. So you can upgrade and upgrade and that copy will always be fine. You may have to call M$ and explain the situation, but they won't hassle you.

Reply to mpjesse
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So then if you buy the retail version you could install it on as many machines you want and just tell M$ that your hard drive crashed right :lol:

Reply to rynhrst

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So then if you buy the retail version you could install it on as many machines you want and just tell M$ that your hard drive crashed right :lol:



Not really. You want retail upgrade rather than OEM because if you change your CPU, motherboard etc you can use it again.

I got Vista Home Premium Upgrade for about $150.

Reply to wellsoul2
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I am confused.

There are two possible situations.

1) An OS from a machine purchased from a manufacturer can only be installed on that machine. The OS license is always OEM. The OEM re-use agreement is between Microsoft and the manufacturer.

2) An OS for a machine built from parts can be installed on any collection of parts. The license can be either an OEM or retail. There is no re-use agreement.

In the past an OEM license had to be bundled with a piece of hardware - often a CD audio cable. But no longer.

Reply to GeorgeH
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So then if you buy the retail version you could install it on as many machines you want and just tell M$ that your hard drive crashed right :lol:



No, because WGA (product activation) would need to run on all the machines. Once it runs on more than 1 machine simultaneously, M$ will get the clue and cokc block you.

Reply to mpjesse

what if you install OEM on one pc, but you wipe your HD when you upgrade your computer and then install it again? will M$ be able to tell?

Reply to vista_nueva
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that's the million dollar question. at this point no one really knows if WGA sends specific hardware info to Microsoft. in the past, WGA has not done this... or at least M$ hasn't enforced it.

Reply to mpjesse

Indeed, specific hardware info is sent during the installation process. This info is known as the "installation ID." The ID is comprised of nine (or ten, I forgot) groups of six-digit numbers that are probably generated during system installation.

You can find your installation ID by trying to activate by telephone. A dialog box will pop up with this info. This happened to me when I upgraded my laptop to Vista. I did a "clean install" frin an upgrade DVD and was blocked from activating via the internet. I had to do it by phone. No sweat ... they asked for the installation ID and was given a confirmation ID in return. It was a painless process.

Reply to saintvir
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Just so I understand...

You upgraded ur laptop from XP to Vista... and then later wiped the hard drive and did a clean install?

Reply to mpjesse

The other way around: wiped it clean and then did a clean install of Vista. Like this:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showca [...] _clean.asp

Reply to saintvir
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I was troubled with the same question as the OP when i decided to get Vista Premium. I checked every post or article i could find that might help me decide, when i finally came across this article...

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2087792,00.asp

I hope this helps you make your decision as it helped me.

Reply to dowsolo
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OEM = 1 machine, 1 configuration at any given time.
*No one has experienced problems formating and reinstalling OEM on a different configuration. You just reactivate and that becomes your system in the database. For now.. that may change in the future.

Retail = up to 5 installs before you need to reactivate in X amount of time (3 months I think? not sure) You can keep changing your configuration, upgrading, etc.

CPU and Motherboard are two of the bigger components checked. Windows builds itself around your motherboard so when you switch that out, you pretty much need to reinstall unless you get the same motherboard/chipset.

Reply to Riser
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Oh man. Mark Twain. Bah. You reminded me that I have homework on Tom Sawyer. :lol:

Reply to qwazzy

There is a little program to bust the oem factor and even install the os on a different system altogether . My wife did it with my gateway os on her non-gateway system and it works great ... updates at microsoft everyday and has for over a month ! If anyone is interested I'll check with her to get it's link . My son and I have been building systems and installing os and programs for years and told her it was'nt possible .... but she made us look like idiots and still laughs :oops:

Reply to trooper1947
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Here in Sweden, the upgrade version of Vista is almost 100% more expensive then the OEM version.

If I understand this right: If I install the OEM version, I can't do major upgrading on the machine.

If I have the upgrade version I can that.

Is it worth 100% premium just to be able to upgrade the computer sometime in the future?

Reply to shompa

yes you can do major upgrading ! and updating ! someone gave you wrong info .

Reply to trooper1947
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I bought an OEM copy of Vista Home Premium a few weeks ago. It cost me $112 at Frys.

I installed it in a dual boot setup on a new computer I had just built and on which an old OEM copy of Windows XP was installed. It originally came with a Gateway computer some years ago, and I've installed it on 3 different computers, with no activation problems at any time.

I had XP installed on a new 300 gig SATA2 HD. Just for playing with it, I installed the OEM Vista on a different, older HD in the same computer. No problems with actrivating and Vista ran quite well. No problems except I had to buy a new TV tuner to work with vista.

I finally split the SATA2 HD into two partitions, and reformatted the old drive and reinstalled Vista on the second partition of the SATA 2 drive. I didn't activate for a couple of days, and when I tried, it wouldn't activate. Wanted me to call home to MS.

I called the toll-free number and got in touch with a very nice guy, in India, who had me read off the 9 sets of 6-digit numbers. He then asked if the OS was installed on more than one computer. I said no, I only had one, and he immediately gave me a new code consisting of another 9 sets of 6 digit numbers I had to type in. I then clicked the 'next' button, and it activated immedeately. Took less than five minutes, toll free.

Seems rather painless, if mildly annoying.

I get the impression they're not going to be too hard on guys who build and rebuild and reinstall often. It's a small, but vocal community that could give them a ton of bad press, if they get too pissed off.

Vista has so far not generated the best press for MS. It was obviously released before it was ready for prime time and I think they're encountering some significant opposition because of the high price.

When you get down below the pretty pictures and Aero interface, it still seems to be just an upgrade of XP. They've moved a lot of stuff around, but under it all, there's a lot of XP code in there.

Reply to comrade

I'm sure you will find the benefits of vista as soon as companies finally write directx 10 games and programs ! Have you gone to the game sites and checked the game vids for DX-10 ? They are gonna smoke the dx-9 games ! Download or watch the crysis video ... unreal for effects and graphics .... you'll never get that with xp and directx 9 ! .... 8O

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