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Right now Im running:
Zone Alarm Firewall free edition (or whatever its called)
AVG Antivirus Free Edition (downloading the updated 7.5 now)
Spybot Search and Destroy Free Edition anti Spyware
Ad-Aware free edition anti adware
Spyware Blaster spyware preventer?

I have no problem running these Apps on my 3.2ghz p4 w/ 1gb of ram.

Am I missing anything?

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ya too many anti spyware, and if you are really worried about being safe then you need this:

firewall = sygate pro 5.6

anti virus = nod32

anti spyware = spy sweeper

that is all you need and they are better then the stuff you have right now combined ;)

some may say your firewall and anti virus are OK but not me, however your spybot and the rest of your anti spyware combined is not as good as spy sweeper, so if you really want to be safe take my advice, if you want to take chances stick with what you got ;)

Reply to edklite

I don't bother running a firewall as I don't directly connect to the Internet (NATed via my router).

My router acts as a hardware firewall and only allows basic ports through.

Reply to hubbardt
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router is a firewall, routers are called hardware firewall vs the software firewall.

hardware firewalls are better, so you are using a firewall ;)

Reply to edklite

hubbardt: Hopefully your Router has Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) shut off--otherwise applications running on your PC can open up ports in your firewall for you--which as you might imagine can be a *slight* security risk.

billdcat4: Nice setup. There are two schools of though when it comes to security software (atleast in my mind)
1. I want Free protection
2. I want the Best protection

edklite is giving you option (2). The Nod32/Spysweeper combo seems to be the 'in' thing right now for providing THE BEST protection. Of course these are commercial products and will cost you $'s. Depending on your situation you may want to go that route (you know...you're the type of guy that gets emails with attachments from people you don't know but you just HAVE to open the email and run the attachment JUST IN CASE its 'real' or something).

There's also such a thing as 'too much' protection. Running AV scanners with background scanner take up memory and cpu cycles and can cause conflicts with other cpu/memory intensive programs (i.e. games). That's one reason why gamers LOVE Nod32 over other commercial products because it's not a resource hog (like Norton...)

My 'FREE' security setup:
1. Hardware Firewall with UPnP OFF
2. Windows SP2 Firewall
3. AVG Free 7.5 (background scanner enabled)
4. AVG Anti-spyware free (on-demand Anti-Trojan/Anti-Spyware scanner ONLY)
5. Emsisoft's A-squared Free 2.1 (on-demand Anti-Trojan/Anti-Spyware scanner)
6. Adaware and Spybot S&D (on-demand Anti-Spyware scanners--although I like Spybot's S&D 'Immunize' function)
7. Javacool's Spywareblaster IE 'hardener'

While many will say Windows SP2's build in firewall 'sucks', it's better than nothing and is fine for protecting from inbound traffic (it doesn't monitor 'outbound'). If I didn't have the hardware firewall as well I'd probably go with "Comodo Firewall". It's a free firewall that's gotten a lot of good press and has been shown to be better than ZoneAlarm's Free Firewall.

BEFORE edklite goes off on me and tells me Spysweeper is a far better solution than than 4 programs Anti-Spyware programs I have listed, I'll say that the I COMPLETELY AGREE with him. My setup is free. Spysweeper is not. I like AVG Antispyware and A-squared Free because they come from pure Anti-Trojan origins (AVG Antispyware was formerly Ewido Anti-Trojan).

But above all else, the BEST, the ABSOLUTE BEST, security program is this: DON'T ACT LIKE A TARD.

The old adage, and "ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" is so true. If you practice 'safe' computing habbits (don't open strange emails and run their attachements, don't download 'questionable' files from 'questionable' websites, you're going to be FINE). The ONLY time I've ever, EVER gotten infected with a piece of Malware has been my OWN DAMN FAULT. So, my belief is: Be smart and you'll never even need those Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware programs (but for god's sake install them anyway.....)

Oh yeah, I'd be remiss if I didn't ramble on about some new things I've put in my security toolbox:
1. ROOTKITS! - These are the up and coming Malware to watch. Malware that hids itself! There are a few Beta Rootkit scanners out there. F-Secure's Blacklight, Sophos Anti-Rootkit, and AVG Anti-Rootkit Beta are 'easy' ones to use. GMER and Icesword are the better but 'harder' ones to use (need to know what you're doing or you can hose your system.
2. HIPS! - Host Intrusion Prevention System. These are basically around to protect you from 'zero day' threats in which your AV/Spyware scanners don't have a signature yet on a new form of Malware. They protect your operating files from being changed (e.g. system files, services, registry, etc). Winpatrol was the good old freebie, but now smarter ones like Cyberhawk are out. Comodo even has some HIPS features built in. By far the BEST one out there is DefenseWall (but that costs money...)
3. KEYSCRAMBLER! - I just read about this little sucker. Rather than making my post too long (TOO LATE), I'll just put a link up http://www.qfxsoftware.com/products.htm

Reply to Zyxthior
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I just like to take the time to point out that haveing more then one type of anti virus, firewall and anti spyware is pointless and does not make you any safer.

to be safe get:

anti virus = nod32

firewall = router or sygate pro

anti spyware = spysweeper does the job of AVG Anti-spyware free, Emsisoft's A-squared Free 2.1, Adaware and Spybot S&D and Javacool's Spywareblaster IE 'hardener all in one and it does it better then all of them put together ;)

Reply to edklite

Does Spysweeper block certain ActiveX scripts and certain websites (without using background resources)? That's the advantage of Javacool's 'Spywareblaster'. It's a different tool altogether than Anti-Spyware scanners like 'Adaware' or 'Spybot S&D'--I'd still use it in conjunction with Spysweeper. It's free, takes up no background resources, and adds another layer of protection.

I'd still like having AVG Antispyware and A-squared Free around, not for their Anti-Spyware capabilities (which in the prior versions were not that good), but for their Anti-Trojan capabilities (which Spysweeper--to my knowledge--does NOT look for).

The other 'advantage' (or 'disadvantage' depending on your point of view)of these scanners is that they don't (the free versions) have a background scanner to take up memory and cpu cycles (and potentially casusing conflicts in games). Of course, if you don't have a background scanner you're left to doing manual scans for items that have already infected you...

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Does Spysweeper block certain ActiveX scripts and certain websites (without using background resources)? That's the advantage of Javacool's 'Spywareblaster'. It's a different tool altogether than Anti-Spyware scanners like 'Adaware' or 'Spybot S&D'--I'd still use it in conjunction with Spysweeper. It's free, takes up no background resources, and adds another layer of protection.



duplicating a service is not called "another layer of protection" its called duplicating with or without bg processes ;)

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I'd still like having AVG Antispyware and A-squared Free around, not for their Anti-Spyware capabilities (which in the prior versions were not that good), but for their Anti-Trojan capabilities (which Spysweeper--to my knowledge--does NOT look for).



well that is what I'm trying to explain to you here, your knowledge is not very correct and you seem to not realize that which is the whole reason why we are on disagreement.

spysweeper has always looked for trojens and since past few month if you like will even also be your anti virus ;)

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The other 'advantage' (or 'disadvantage' depending on your point of view)of these scanners is that they don't (the free versions) have a background scanner to take up memory and cpu cycles (and potentially causing conflicts in games). Of course, if you don't have a background scanner you're left to doing manual scans for items that have already infected you...




again lack of knowledge, SS has a process which it locks and is in the background and even if you shut it down it will wake itself up for any scheduled task/protection, it actually can stop malware from getting on your PC to begin with ;)

however if you have nod32 you don't need to worry about Trojans or such things, you are worried about torjens because your anti virus is not making you comfortable otherwise if you are protected with your anti virus I don't see why there is a need for another duplicate protection.

The thing we need to keep in mind when it comes to firewalls, anti viruses, anti spyware is that if each is adequate in its capabilities then there is no reason to duplicate them.

Plus pay attention to what you are saying, in one hand you are recommending 5 or six apps with god knows how many total processes and then in the other hand you are talking about how the advantage of one is that it uses no bg processes. If you are so worried about processes then why not take our advice and use only 3 with less processes then your 6 and the same protection if not more with only 3.

Think about it, honestly I'm just passing on friendly advice, this is all with a friendly tone, I hope it came across that way because its meant that way ;)

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Reply to edklite
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how does nod32 and sygate stack up with other programs as far as how much resources they use?

Reply to dronis
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thats the thing, nod uses the lowest resources of all the ones I have tested.

mcafee and norton/symantec use the most and have the most processes running in the background.

nod only has 2 processes one for the kernel and one for the gui. I have not seen a faster scanner then nod either.

sygate uses only one process and that one is light also

try them and you will love them ;)

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