Barecelona to be launched in Q3, desktop K10 in Q4!

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In the third quarter, we will have the launch of Barcelona, a quad core processor that will bring a much improved performance per watt and not at all just an evolution of the previous generation processor. In the 4th quarter, we will have the desktop version of Barcelona in both dual core and quad core implementations.

http://www.cpilive.net/v3/inside.a [...] n&NID=1320

K10 smells on paper launch.

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AMD is really getting to this game late.

I don't know why you'd see a paper launch coming on this. If they would have claimed a launch in Q2, then maybe.

Reply to ajfink

Most definitive statement from AMD yet.

Reply to r0ck

AMDs K8 stuff is going to cost NEGATIVE dollars by then 8O

Poor Baron :lol:

Reply to Wombat2

One more step closer than ~$200 quad cores, hehe.
Somewhere I read that Q6600 are going to be like ~$270 by Q3 of this year. If AMD wants to be competitive, they have to release ~$250 quad cores too.

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One more step closer than ~$200 quad cores, hehe.
Somewhere I read that Q6600 are going to be like ~$270 by Q3 of this year. If AMD wants to be competitive, they have to release ~$250 quad cores too.

Ah... $250 quad cores! I'll have two please! And a nice motherboard to run them, thank you! Don't care if it's made AMD, Intel or Kia. Just let it be fast and cheap!

Reply to CaptRobertApril

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Amazing :roll: looks like this year is really as washed out as i predicted. Q4 desktops wont save stocks this year and i wouldnt bet the farm on gfx holding up the tent if I were them.

When can I call them indiots?

You have my permission to start now. I've checked Hector's astrological chart and for the next few days, particularly the 18th and 23rd have this warning:

The "Stars" will be retrograding into Uranus.

:lol:

Reply to CaptRobertApril

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Amazing :roll: looks like this year is really as washed out as i predicted. Q4 desktops wont save stocks this year and i wouldnt bet the farm on gfx holding up the tent if I were them.

When can I call them indiots?

You have my permission to start now. I've checked Hector's astrological chart and for the next few days, particularly the 18th and 23rd have this warning:

The "Stars" will be retrograding into Uranus.

:lol: That's a shi**y situation. 8O You sure the dual core is called Agena, and not Enima? :wink:

Reply to 1Tanker

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That's a shi**y situation. 8O You sure the dual core is called Agena, and not Enima? :wink:

Agena: Quad-core
Kuma: High-end dual-core
Rana: Low-end dual-core
Spica: Single-core

:wink:

Reply to qcmadness

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In the third quarter, we will have the launch of Barcelona, a quad core processor that will bring a much improved performance per watt and not at all just an evolution of the previous generation processor. In the 4th quarter, we will have the desktop version of Barcelona in both dual core and quad core implementations.

http://www.cpilive.net/v3/inside.a [...] n&NID=1320

K10 smells on paper launch.

If this does happens, AMD may be bankrupt in this year.

Reply to qcmadness

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AMD will likely announce shipments of ES to system builders and refer to it as a launch. Final produt will land in Q3, so I think it will paper launch in Q2 and production shipment in Q3....

That is my guess...

Jack

This cannot save AMD at all. :?

Reply to qcmadness

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In the third quarter, we will have the launch of Barcelona, a quad core processor that will bring a much improved performance per watt and not at all just an evolution of the previous generation processor. In the 4th quarter, we will have the desktop version of Barcelona in both dual core and quad core implementations.

http://www.cpilive.net/v3/inside.a [...] n&NID=1320

K10 smells on paper launch.

That is, at least, a clear statement.

Which begs the question now of what will Barcelona et al do versus Penrym?

Intel has stated officailly that Penrym will also be out late 4th quarter (my guess is Xmas) and given the way the two companys have been executing, I'd feel more confident in Intel's date the AMDs.

Reply to the_vorlon

its sad they can't bump this up...65nm is probably gonig to be AMD's stumbling stone...i was glad to hear one of their plants going from 90nm str8 2 45nm...

I've said this b4 but AMD maybe up crap creek until AM3 matures...I think everyone needs to stop being so doom and gloom about them...there are thousands of datacenters and server builders that will ALWAYS pick the opterons...but they do need to retake the crown so i don't have to look at these dumb@ss intel C2D commericals (I CAN GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT!! I CAN GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEED!!)

I've looked at a lot of benchmarks but I honestly don't get why C2D's are able to pushout such higher FPS's than AMD X2's...I mean...I get some of it but AMD still wins on throughput and stuff like that,,,benchies i would associate with getting the info faster to the GPU...

anyway...if K10 can retake the FPS crown the retail segment will see a boost...even on their current X2's...because of the future upgrade path...

all current C2D users are gonna have to toss their mobo's...I mean bearlake isn't going to last that long anyway (won't support Nehalem)

Reply to eregular

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AMDs K8 stuff is going to cost NEGATIVE dollars by then 8O

Poor Baron :lol:

What does that have to do with me, subhuman?

Reply to BaronMatrix

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AMDs K8 stuff is going to cost NEGATIVE dollars by then 8O

Poor Baron :lol:

What does that have to do with me, subhuman?Because!!!! You have been belly-aching about the CPU price-war for months.... Lower prices may just push you over the edge. :tongue:

Reply to 1Tanker

Bizarre that K10 will effectively only compete with Penryn not Conroe.

AMD will have skipped an entire generation 8O

Reply to Wombat2

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Bizarre that K10 will effectively only compete with Penryn not Conroe.

AMD will have skipped an entire generation 8O

Of course they have, that's why they went from K8 to K10 8)

Reply to m25

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AMD is really getting to this game late.

I don't know why you'd see a paper launch coming on this. If they would have claimed a launch in Q2, then maybe.

Fanboy, you make me laugh. :roll:
It took 3 years for Intel to answer X2 and FX and after a few months now AMD is late in the game?? Get real dude.

Good point.

Reply to killtacular

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AMD is really getting to this game late.

I don't know why you'd see a paper launch coming on this. If they would have claimed a launch in Q2, then maybe.

Fanboy, you make me laugh. :roll:
It took 3 years for Intel to answer X2 and FX and after a few months now AMD is late in the game?? Get real dude.

No it didnt.

cedar mill on oct 05
core mobile dec 05
939 was released early mid 03
do the math its well under 3 yearsIt's hard to use a calculator, when your heads in the toilet-bowl.

Reply to 1Tanker

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AMD will likely announce shipments of ES to system builders and refer to it as a launch. Final produt will land in Q3, so I think it will paper launch in Q2 and production shipment in Q3....

That is my guess...

Jack

That was always the whole plan. Sample in May, ship in June, volume in July. That will allow Kuma to ramp more quickly and depending on when they cancel Brisbane, they'll have every market segment and price point covered.

Another issue is how CHartered ramps 65nm. If they got above the currently reported 3000WSPM, that may allow all Brisbane to come out of Chartered.

Windsor, to the possible dismay of enthusiasts, needs to die a quick death so Fab 30/38 can do Opteron from 2.4-3.0GHz while canceling the lower speeds.

Since a Turion shrink will produce an incredibly small chip, a very small % of Fab 36 can be allocated for that. If you take a 30% improvement that produces 21-25W chips.

They could actually make ULV chips with that.

AGain, you have to have balls if you want to play in the biggest leagues. Hector and CO. have big hairy ones. I think it will pay off tremendously the way Opteron did.

Reply to BaronMatrix

This is ironic... complete role reversal. Intel once was raped by AMD's processors, though now with C2D, its AMD getting raped by Intel... the real difference is, will AMD live through 2007? They better, because I'd hate to see them go. For the sakes of our wallets, AMD better get themselves out of this mess.

Reply to Bluefinger

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Fanboy, you make me laugh. :roll:
It took 3 years for Intel to answer X2 and FX and after a few months now AMD is late in the game?? Get real dude.

It took 1 year and 1 month for Intel to answer X2(released june 2005). AMD will need at least 1 year and 3 months to try to answer to Core2. But we don't know how much time AMD will need, because we don't know how K10 performs. IMO, AMD will not touch the desktop performance crown in near future.
AMD are too late in the game for sure: their 65nm SOI-3 is late, K10 is late, their 45nm will be late.

Reply to gOJDO

Baron, exactly how do you know about the hirsuteness of Mr. Ruiz's testicles? :twisted:

Tanker, I think that Enima is the CPU with AMD-R Rectalization technology which implements the Optimist Power Management to claim PowerNow! when the company is completely out of "cache" and they aint worth a "chip." :lol:

Reply to CaptRobertApril

@vern
If K10 desktop comes in Q4 it will have to compete against Penryn. Even if it competes against Kentsfield, I don't believe that it will bring the performance crown with 2.5GHz top frequency. According to the K10 data, in average it will perform similar like C2, clock for clock. A 2.5GHz will face a 3GHz C2Q QX6850 with 1333MHz FSB. K10 will need to be more than 20% faster clock for clock in average than Core2(50% faster than K8 ), in order to match the C2Q performance. I don't believe that K10 has such potentials.

Reply to gOJDO

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One more step closer than ~$200 quad cores, hehe.
Somewhere I read that Q6600 are going to be like ~$270 by Q3 of this year. If AMD wants to be competitive, they have to release ~$250 quad cores too.

Ah... $250 quad cores! I'll have two please! And a nice motherboard to run them, thank you! Don't care if it's made AMD, Intel or Kia. Just let it be fast and cheap! In the words of the dude with the cat avater, WORD!

Reply to reconviperone1

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In the words of the dude with the cat avater, WORD!

Now that is something to get me hotter than phone sex with Charlize Theron. Two $250 quads sitting on a non-server motherboard with nary an FB-DIMM in sight! WHOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo!!!!

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can we get a schematic of the AMD-R technology?

Of course! This is in case you missed it when the Inq ran the story.

Reply to CaptRobertApril

The AMD doom talk was around during the end of the lifecycle of the xp processors, hell even i was thinking they would go away when they released a crappy xp3200 that wasnt reaaly that much faster than my xp2500+. But they game with the socket 754 which was great, then the socket 939 which was awesome. I think they will pull though, and i really want them to, amd is a very innovative company, and in ten years i think amd and intel will be runing a much closer race than they are today.

Reply to reconviperone1

I am organizing a contribution campaign for AMD. Because AMD is not profitable the donations of I and others will be needed.

Remember, without AMD we wouldn't have inventions that came out last year such as the dual socket motherboard. Before last year there was no such thing as a dual socket motherboard and now there is.

So far I have support from myself and Sharikou on this idea. We plan to make donations to AMD via paypal. Remember, AMD is a non-profit corporation (NYSE: AMD).

Reply to MatrixBaron

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@vern
If K10 desktop comes in Q4 it will have to compete against Penryn. Even if it competes against Kentsfield, I don't believe that it will bring the performance crown with 2.5GHz top frequency. According to the K10 data, in average it will perform similar like C2, clock for clock. A 2.5GHz will face a 3GHz C2Q QX6850 with 1333MHz FSB. K10 will need to be more than 20% faster clock for clock in average than Core2(50% faster than K8 ), in order to match the C2Q performance. I don't believe that K10 has such potentials.

That's because the correct word is POTENTIAL.

Idiot!!

Reply to BaronMatrix

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I am organizing a contribution campaign for AMD. Because AMD is not profitable the donations of I and others will be needed.

Remember, without AMD we wouldn't have inventions that came out last year such as the dual socket motherboard. Before last year there was no such thing as a dual socket motherboard and now there is.

So far I have support from myself and Sharikou on this idea. We plan to make donations to AMD via paypal. Remember, AMD is a non-profit corporation (NYSE: AMD).

Wow, a REAL FAN. I'm blushing.

Reply to BaronMatrix

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I am organizing a contribution campaign for AMD. Because AMD is not profitable the donations of I and others will be needed.

Remember, without AMD we wouldn't have inventions that came out last year such as the dual socket motherboard. Before last year there was no such thing as a dual socket motherboard and now there is.

So far I have support from myself and Sharikou on this idea. We plan to make donations to AMD via paypal. Remember, AMD is a non-profit corporation (NYSE: AMD).

Wow, a REAL FAN. I'm blushing.

Keep up the good work!!!

Reply to BaronMatrix

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I am organizing a contribution campaign for AMD. Because AMD is not profitable the donations of I and others will be needed.

Remember, without AMD we wouldn't have inventions that came out last year such as the dual socket motherboard. Before last year there was no such thing as a dual socket motherboard and now there is.

So far I have support from myself and Sharikou on this idea. We plan to make donations to AMD via paypal. Remember, AMD is a non-profit corporation (NYSE: AMD).

Wow, a REAL FAN. I'm blushing.

Keep up the good work!!!

No, you keep up the good work.

Reply to BaronMatrix

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I am organizing a contribution campaign for AMD. Because AMD is not profitable the donations of I and others will be needed.

Remember, without AMD we wouldn't have inventions that came out last year such as the dual socket motherboard. Before last year there was no such thing as a dual socket motherboard and now there is.

So far I have support from myself and Sharikou on this idea. We plan to make donations to AMD via paypal. Remember, AMD is a non-profit corporation (NYSE: AMD).

Wow, a REAL FAN. I'm blushing.

Keep up the good work!!!

No, you keep up the good work.

Finally, someone who understands me.

Reply to BaronMatrix

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I am organizing a contribution campaign for AMD. Because AMD is not profitable the donations of I and others will be needed.

Remember, without AMD we wouldn't have inventions that came out last year such as the dual socket motherboard. Before last year there was no such thing as a dual socket motherboard and now there is.

So far I have support from myself and Sharikou on this idea. We plan to make donations to AMD via paypal. Remember, AMD is a non-profit corporation (NYSE: AMD).

Wow, a REAL FAN. I'm blushing.

Keep up the good work!!!

No, you keep up the good work.

Finally, someone who understands me.

I know what you mean. BTW, who's Sharikou?

Reply to BaronMatrix

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I am organizing a contribution campaign for AMD. Because AMD is not profitable the donations of I and others will be needed.

Remember, without AMD we wouldn't have inventions that came out last year such as the dual socket motherboard. Before last year there was no such thing as a dual socket motherboard and now there is.

So far I have support from myself and Sharikou on this idea. We plan to make donations to AMD via paypal. Remember, AMD is a non-profit corporation (NYSE: AMD).

Wow, a REAL FAN. I'm blushing.

Keep up the good work!!!

No, you keep up the good work.

Finally, someone who understands me.

I know what you mean. BTW, who's Sharikou?

I don't know some guy who has nothing to do with us. I just thought I'd cause trouble.

Reply to BaronMatrix

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I am organizing a contribution campaign for AMD. Because AMD is not profitable the donations of I and others will be needed.

Remember, without AMD we wouldn't have inventions that came out last year such as the dual socket motherboard. Before last year there was no such thing as a dual socket motherboard and now there is.

So far I have support from myself and Sharikou on this idea. We plan to make donations to AMD via paypal. Remember, AMD is a non-profit corporation (NYSE: AMD).

Wow, a REAL FAN. I'm blushing.

Keep up the good work!!!

No, you keep up the good work.

Finally, someone who understands me.

I know what you mean. BTW, who's Sharikou?

I don't know some guy who has nothing to do with us. I just thought I'd cause trouble.

Oh. OK, welcome to the Brood. Present your soul upon entry.

Reply to BaronMatrix

Baron has finally flipped.

Had to happen some day I guess 8O

Reply to Wombat2

He seemed so chill recently too.

Reply to r0ck

speechless

Reply to RichPLS

There is a matrixbaron now!, is this like a doppleganger space time contium thing,LOL, you guys.

Reply to reconviperone1

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Fanboy, you make me laugh. :roll:
It took 3 years for Intel to answer X2 and FX and after a few months now AMD is late in the game?? Get real dude.

AMD does not have the capitol to pull a Intel.

Reply to dasickninja

what the helll!!!!!!! there is no way now, that i will be waiting for k10... i suppose i will have to walk down the dark road that is Intel :lol:

Reply to Maverick7

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That's because the correct word is POTENTIAL.

Idiot!!

I'm sure your spelling and grammar would be as good in his native tongue?

Reply to gr8mikey

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thats the pre postal syndrome. :lol:

I'm not sure what that means but I guess the shock of "launch" in 2007 and assumed availability in 2008 was too much for him

Reply to r0ck

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That's because the correct word is POTENTIAL.

Idiot!!

I'm sure your spelling and grammar would be as good in his native tongue?

Maybe he should watch his tongue. I try to be respectful of everyone. I get none, I give none.

Reply to BaronMatrix

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AMD is really getting to this game late.

I don't know why you'd see a paper launch coming on this. If they would have claimed a launch in Q2, then maybe.

Fanboy, you make me laugh. :roll:
It took 3 years for Intel to answer X2 and FX and after a few months now AMD is late in the game?? Get real dude.
You're right. But the difference is Intel has CASH, AMD does not. Intel can afford to wait 3 years, AMD can't.

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