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Hi,
I changed my 4 digit password a few weeks ago and now I've come to use my
ppc I can't for the life of me remember what the hell the password is.

Does anyone know how to get around this? I have any important data backed up
so data loss is not a problem if it comes to that.

It cost me a fortune so I will be rather depressed if it is now useless,
surely there must be a way of resetting it or something.

Any help will be very much appreciated.

Cheers

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"Blip" <Blipblop@blip.com> wrote in message
news:2a%ve.13723$BD2.13479@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> Hi,
> I changed my 4 digit password a few weeks ago and now I've come to use my
> ppc I can't for the life of me remember what the hell the password is.
>
> Does anyone know how to get around this? I have any important data backed
> up
> so data loss is not a problem if it comes to that.
>
> It cost me a fortune so I will be rather depressed if it is now useless,
> surely there must be a way of resetting it or something.
>
> Any help will be very much appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
>

What is the point of a password if you can easily bypass it? If you could
would you have a comfortable feel that your data is secure should your pda
be lost or stolen?

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The ppc password is very secure... in addition to no known crack for it,
as you have probably already discovered, the time between attempts
increases with each try.

I have heard that if you "saved the password in activesync," you have
the ability to at least recover files and pim data.

Hard reset (with loss of all data in RAM) is the only known option on
the device itself.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news... (we assume you are the legit owner)

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

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"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:eWTASE3eFHA.256@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> The ppc password is very secure... in addition to no known crack for it,
> as you have probably already discovered, the time between attempts
> increases with each try.
>
> I have heard that if you "saved the password in activesync," you have
> the ability to at least recover files and pim data.
>
> Hard reset (with loss of all data in RAM) is the only known option on
> the device itself.
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news... (we assume you are the legit owner)
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

Thanks Beverly, Yes I am the legit owner.
I actually wrote down my security info but I recently moved house and
haven't a clue where I put it.

So if I hard reset it, I will lose my data but I will be able to get into
the thing and start again?

cheers B

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Absolutely. But you just loose the data in RAM. Usually the data in
FileStore remains, and flash cards remain. So you lose PIM, but that is
backed up in Outlook. You'll need to delete the old partnership from Outlook
(if you want to use the PPC name again) and reestablish the AS partnership.
Honestly don't know if restoring from a backup would restore the forgotten
password, but I would bet so.

"Blip" <Blipblop@blip.com> wrote in message
news:hr9we.6174$rz1.433@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
> message news:eWTASE3eFHA.256@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > The ppc password is very secure... in addition to no known crack for it,
> > as you have probably already discovered, the time between attempts
> > increases with each try.
> >
> > I have heard that if you "saved the password in activesync," you have
> > the ability to at least recover files and pim data.
> >
> > Hard reset (with loss of all data in RAM) is the only known option on
> > the device itself.
> >
> > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news... (we assume you are the legit
owner)
> >
> > Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
> Thanks Beverly, Yes I am the legit owner.
> I actually wrote down my security info but I recently moved house and
> haven't a clue where I put it.
>
> So if I hard reset it, I will lose my data but I will be able to get into
> the thing and start again?
>
> cheers B
>
>

Reply to Anonymous

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Well, probably -- but not absolutely.

The hx4705 (mine at least) comes with a Credant security package (labeled as
"HP ProtectTools" ).

This little gem has on option on the "Fail-Safe" tab called "Keep Security
After a Hard Reset"...

-afh3

"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:eWTASE3eFHA.256@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> The ppc password is very secure... in addition to no known crack for it,
> as you have probably already discovered, the time between attempts
> increases with each try.
>
> I have heard that if you "saved the password in activesync," you have the
> ability to at least recover files and pim data.
>
> Hard reset (with loss of all data in RAM) is the only known option on the
> device itself.
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news... (we assume you are the legit owner)
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

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>> This little gem has on option on the "Fail-Safe" tab called "Keep
Security After a Hard Reset"... <<

Whoa... an ultimate penalty for anyone careless enough to use a password
and loose it... let's hope Blip didn't activate that option.

The new HP/Microsoft mantra, "Security till it hurts!"

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

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"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:uSygom$eFHA.2692@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> This little gem has on option on the "Fail-Safe" tab called "Keep
> Security After a Hard Reset"... <<
>
> Whoa... an ultimate penalty for anyone careless enough to use a password
> and loose it... let's hope Blip didn't activate that option.
>
> The new HP/Microsoft mantra, "Security till it hurts!"
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

Just in case anyone pops in to this thread, I did a hard reset and all's
well! I was glad that I didn't have the "keep security after a hard reset"
ticked.
I had it set for a 4 digit number password so I guess if it had come to it I
could have started at 0000 and worked my way up to 9999!

Anyway I guess it's sods law but the very next day my partner found my
security details in a notepad that was stashed away in a box after our house
move. Oh well at least my data was backed up.

Cheers

Blip

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>> so I guess if it had come to it I could have started at 0000 and
worked my way up to 9999! <<

While I have actually done that (while watching TV) a couple of times
decades ago to recover digital padlocks with the same numeric
possibilites, it would be a hard process with a PPC as the interval
between tries increases with each entry.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

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"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:%23n3vn%23nfFHA.1948@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> so I guess if it had come to it I could have started at 0000 and
> worked my way up to 9999! <<
>
> While I have actually done that (while watching TV) a couple of times
> decades ago to recover digital padlocks with the same numeric
> possibilites, it would be a hard process with a PPC as the interval
> between tries increases with each entry.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
>

I See, so that could have taken for ever! I'm just glad that it didn't come
to that.
I have learned a couple of lessons anyway. The main one being - make sure
you know where your security details are in case you forget your password!
LOL!
Thanks very much for your help Beverly it is much appreciated.

Cheers
Blip

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