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Hey Guys: Putting some finishing touches on my new ~$2K Rig

Wondering if these Logitech X-530

(5.1) surround Sound System are worth it @ 39.99$?

I know that they usually retail at around~$50, but I don't know about what the Matrix mode on the X-540s mean (the X-530s dont have it.)

My sound card (an X-Fi Extrememusic), can it be able to utilize the Matrix mode on the X-540s? something about two channel....



Or is two-channel just for older sound cards, and the X-530s are fine...

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Hey Guys: Putting some finishing touches on my new ~$2K Rig

Wondering if these Logitech X-530

(5.1) surround Sound System are worth it @ 39.99$?

I know that they usually retail at around~$50, but I don't know about what the Matrix mode on the X-540s mean (the X-530s dont have it.)

My sound card (an X-Fi Extrememusic), can it be able to utilize the Matrix mode on the X-540s? something about two channel....



Or is two-channel just for older sound cards, and the X-530s are fine...



Thats a steal. I say go for it man, $40 speakers FTW.

Reply to CmdPT

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Hey Guys: Putting some finishing touches on my new ~$2K Rig

Wondering if these Logitech X-530

(5.1) surround Sound System are worth it @ 39.99$?

I know that they usually retail at around~$50, but I don't know about what the Matrix mode on the X-540s mean (the X-530s dont have it.)

My sound card (an X-Fi Extrememusic), can it be able to utilize the Matrix mode on the X-540s? something about two channel....



Or is two-channel just for older sound cards, and the X-530s are fine...



This isn't my area of expertise, but I'd suggest a more expensive sound system. You have a good card, now make it scream.

Reply to SanjiWatsuki
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I heard the More expensive systems (X-540~$80), (Z-5300e~$125) sound almost the same or something...I don't really want to spend more money just for the sake of spending more money XD

ANd bout the soundcard,sanji, I found a good deal for it for around 60$, so I don;t have it yet, but unless some better deal, I'm getting it most likely.


EDIT: Will play graphically/sound intensive games,
such as halflife2, Doom3, Quake4, Far Cry, SupCommander,
Oblivion, etc. Will also listen to Music (mostly soundtracks/rock/classical),
and do little-to-nil music editing (In a 12X15) feet room.

Reply to deusex
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Can we have the specs for your system for the heck of it?

Reply to CmdPT
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SureXD :lol:

Antec P180B Performance Case

Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz

Asus P5B Deluxe Mobo

eVGA 8800GTS 320MB (Superclocked)

2 GB Corsair XMS DDR2 800 RAM (4-4-4-12 Lat.)

Seagate Barracuda 320GB SATAII 7200.10

OCZ GameXStream 600W PSU

NEC Burner/Sony DVD-ROM

Samsung 204BW 20 Inch Widescreen LCD 1680X1050


(Logitech X-530 70W)
(Creative X-Fi Extrememusic)

Everything comes out to ~$2K(not quite) with shipping/tax.

Reply to deusex
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i got the Z5500s, and from what it looks like your not looking to spend anything in that range, but what the heck all i can say is they sound great and have all the right inputs and puts out some nice sound.

Reply to IcY18
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Thats one good looking system there.

Reply to CmdPT

If you can hear the difference between different data rates on mp3's then I would say get your self a set of the z-5500's if you can't you most likely will not hear the difference between the expensice 5500 and affordable (I would say cheap but they are seriously some good sounding speakers) z 530's. Hell, even if I could hear the difference, I would still go for the cheaper ones, that is one hell of a deal.

Reply to deathbybubba
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I say , go for the x-540 I am actually getting one of those too :D and congratz on the new pc its great :oops:

Reply to ADM-86
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Thanks Guys:

How much different is the X-540 and theX-530?

Reply to deusex

I cant say what the difference is between the 530 and the 540, but as a owner of the X-530's, I can say they sound just fine in small rooms. they are a little bass-y, but you can fine tune that on the sub. the Z5500's are a little overkill unless your in a big room.

Just my measly 10 cents

Reply to chrispyski
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I hope my reply is not too late. I am the proud owner of a set of X-530's and I can say with joy that they kick! I got em when they were $70, and as long as you position them right, they put out great sound. They may not be as filling as a set of Z-680's were (damn nice speakers!), but they sure do shake my floor. I usually don't turn my volume very high because of all the bass :-)

Reply to cpburns
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My room is ~15X12 feet - small?


To cpburns and others: Is the sound clear? (not muddied becuase of bass)

Reply to deusex
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I just got from the pc store.....damn bastards....here in Colombia they charge as much as they want, even if it came through contraband :evil:
The x-540 is at 285000 - 30000 pesos (that’s 2300 pesos=1 dollar) that would be 123-130 dollars for the x-540, and the x-530 is 230000 that would be 100 dollars. 8O ....damn bastards :evil: anyway now I am really interested if the x-540 is worth it 8O ? What do you say?


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CPU Type - DualCore Intel Pentium D 820
Motherboard Chipset - Intel Lakeport i945P
System Memory - 1024 MB (DDR2-533 DDR2 SDRAM)
Video Adapter - NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT (256 MB)
Sound Card - SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio
Monitor - Dell 1905FP 19" LCD
Disk Drive - (160 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II)
Optical Drive - PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8701 (DVD+R9:8x, DVD+RW:16x/
8x, DVD-RW:16x/6x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/32x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW)
Optical Drive - TSSTcorp DVD-ROM TS-H352C (16x/48x DVD-ROM)
Keyboard - Microsoft USB Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 (IntelliType Pro)
Mouse - Logitech G5 Laser Mouse
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Reply to ADM-86
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The X-530 is going to be discontinued, though is still a great sound system. It's perfect on the budget-side and is said to have great sound for $50. I'd recommend you jump on em; theyre highly rated (just look at em on NewEgg or TigerDirect) and are probably the best speakers for the price.

Reply to Bobsama
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Go for the 530's bought a set 3 months ago for $50 on e-bay and like them very much.

Just one note , if your in a room of anysize you will need rca axtension cables. they are fairly short. My desk is only 4' wide and the rear speakers are on the wall four feet from front of desk and the cables just made it. Just FYI

The sound is totally awesome.

Reply to loner47

Ok. I do have a set of X-530's in my small room and they ROCK!
I have not had a 5.1 sound before now, but I have to say that going from a two speaker setup to 5.1 on these cheaper speakers is awsome!

The only downside to the X-530 set is that there may come a time when you would like more power (although I do not know why..) BUT they do have an awsome sound output...

I have had Windowz and WMP volume at max and the speakers turned up to less than 50% on the dial and I could hear my tunes anywhere in my decently sized house.! (playing Lord of the Rings...)

Another funny story is that when I first got them for the rig in my sig, my mom thought something was in the house, the music was soo loud...

Also, when playing games, watching a movie, or listening to music, these speakers perform EXTREMELY WELL!
I suppose if you put the X-530's next to the X-540's or higher, you could tell a difference between them, but the X-530's should satisfy your sound need (unless you are an audiophile and need the absolute best sound setup...But I'm guessing you aren't)

Sorry for the long post, but in my opinion, I would buy these speakers again. In fact, my friend's brother has the same speakers and he likes them too...

Reply to rabidbunny
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Wait the X-530s are going to be discontinued?


Also, Anyone have or have heard X-540s?

Comparing there sound to X-530s?

Reply to deusex

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Wait the X-530s are going to be discontinued?


Also, Anyone have or have heard X-540s?

Comparing there sound to X-530s?



1: I believe they are...soon maybe since the X-540 is pretty much the same but with some newer technologies (or improvements anyways)
2: I have heard of teh X-540's, but since I have the X-530's I have noo need to try the 40's....I think there is just some newer components put into the 40's and they may have some more power, but I haven't looked at them yet. Check it out though..
3: I would assume that the 40's would have a bit better sound (maybe a little bit smoother range, but not a HUGE difference), but if you get either one, I think you will be happy.

Check out some reviews on the 40's and check newegg to see what they have to say about them...

Reply to rabidbunny
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Reviews sound pretty mouch the same-no direct comparison between the two...

WOndering about that matrix mode thing...

Reply to deusex

The matrix mode takes a 2 channel audio source and attempts to make it 5.1 Similar to dolby surround but not as advanced.

Reply to deathbybubba

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SureXD :lol:

Antec P180B Performance Case

Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz

Asus P5B Deluxe Mobo

eVGA 8800GTS 320MB (Superclocked)

2 GB Corsair XMS DDR2 800 RAM (4-4-4-12 Lat.)

Seagate Barracuda 320GB SATAII 7200.10

OCZ GameXStream 600W PSU

NEC Burner/Sony DVD-ROM

Samsung 204BW 20 Inch Widescreen LCD 1680X1050


(Logitech X-530 70W)
(Creative X-Fi Extrememusic)

Everything comes out to ~$2K(not quite) with shipping/tax.



I could of built that same computer for $1,000.00 with a few mods to purchase equipment you used ..

Reply to MEGAWATTZ2000
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The matrix mode takes a 2 channel audio source and attempts to make it 5.1 Similar to dolby surround but not as advanced.



So, It isn't something that is a enhancement over the X-530s if you have a X-Fi Extrememusic, correct?, and I don't really need it. (since the X-Fis are 7-channel s.cards)




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I could of built that same computer for $1,000.00 with a few mods to purchase equipment you used ..




ExplainXD

Reply to deusex

I don't know about matrix mode, but logitech makes a high quality product, I have used the 530 for gaming and it is excellent, but I was also using an adigy 4 sound card with it. As for matrix mode, I think it's probably some special version of surround sound, but for $10 more, why not just go for it? I mean the sound quality is good on the 530, but if you want some special features, why not?

But if I can recommened something, dump the samsung monitor for something cheaper like sceptre, they make a good monitor too, but for a lot less, save the money and get either some faster ram, or better cpu cooling

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

logitech's exact words

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Matrix mode Creates 5.1 surround-sound effect from 2-channel stereo sources. Innovative centre channel LCD clip Speaker attaches to the top of most flat-panel monitors


that should explain it

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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Actually, it's for ~35$ more, not $10.

THe INtel stock cooler is actually pretty good for low OCs, such as ~2.66GHz.

The Corsair XMS2 is fast RAM...for ~$180.

Reply to deusex

I've got the X540, the matrix mode is useless for a PC, it is meant for console systems to turn 2.1 into 5.1.

Go with the X530 if it's cheaper.

They sound very nice for desktop speakers, very good bang for your buck.

Reply to cutthroat

Meh, I can assure you I can get you better ram price:performance wise, for less than $20, it's okay, better than most stable wise, but it won't clock up for a dime unless you step up to corsair's 1066 modules, but there would be no point of buying a 6600 for just 2.6ghz, the op should really only get the 6600 for it's multiplier, otherwise it's e4300/e6300 all the way, no need for anything more unless you plain to go over 3.5ghz, in which case, then you choose between a 6400 and a 6600, and so on and so forth

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

Well, if you have a monitor with built in speakers, then you could perhaps make use of matrix mode, but then that defeats the purpose of getting 5.1 surround speakers

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

ALSO:
My X-530's came with a converter box that you plug in the 3 (green, orange, and black) speaker cables into it and you plug in the white and red RCA cables so you can use the speakers. I have not been able to try it yet, but I'm sure it works fine. It kinda sounds like the 40's have something special built into them that helps with that. However, if you are playing a game with what i've mentioned above with the box, I'm sure the speakers would work flawlessly anyways...(don't quote me on that ...)

If you want, get the X-530's. They are great and the X-540's sound li;ke they are only a little bit better for the $35 or whatever more...It's your decision. Personally, I would stick with the X-530's since I have experience with them, but I would want the little LCD remote thingey...So I would probably go with the X-540's then...(yeah,, BIG indecision....)

I think that either way, you won't get a bad product and you will be satisfied with your choice...

T.

Reply to rabidbunny

I think either one is good, but for the sake of money, the 530 and a better sound card would be best

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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SO, the Matrix Mode is useless, and I don't think theres an LCD on the X540 Remote?



-What RAM would you reccomend then Taco? - MOST I will OC is probably 2.93 - wih the INTEL stock cooler

Reply to deusex

Well, for a minor oc like that, I recommend getting the e4300 instead to save yourself some money, and get a cheaper board such as the ds3, unless you really want a suped up machine, I think you are kinda spending a bit too much for the porformance you want. But on the ram, I recommend either of these three should go up to 1200mhz and possibly above (though don't flame me if yours doesn't)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820146563
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231075
and this is a bit higher in price, but better imo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145043

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

i'm a Klipsh fan myself. To put it in perspective on why someone like you should dish out the cash for a surround sound system of higher caliber think of this. I baught these 4.1 klipsh speakers back in the year 2000 and These bad boys still have the crispest bass.

Your computer will change (that's a given). When you have top shelf speakers they go great w/ any system!

Reply to lordslashstab

Perhaps, but if the logitech goes dead (which my neighbor's haven't and they are 3 years plus running), you can easily replace them, while some 2.1 klipsh speaders are almost $100, it all boils down to money

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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Will those 1066 ram ($100) more and counting give me a significant boost, paired with a e4300, or will the 800 ram (dominator and regular xms2 )with a e6600 be faster?

I can always oc the 800 ram to 1066...


THe klipschs look really sweet, but I dont think I can fork out 100$ for speaks, more than 50$ more than Logis. Also, I'd like to have true 5channel surround sound.XD


Also, I plan to upgrade the e6600 to a quadcore q6600 in 3rd quarter, (going to cost ~$270!) Is there any quadcore capable mobo that can be compared to the p5b deluxe? And anyone know or tried how much can I OC the e6600 with the stock cooler, with it getting too hot.?

Reply to deusex

I have read it right o/c the e4300 will still only use 667 RAM speed. So if the price is the same, go e660 and 800 RAM, Future will never be here, just today changes.

Reply to alcattle

IF you are planning on upgrading in sept, get a e4300 or e6300 with some good ram. You can OC a 6300 to 3.4 in most cases (I think it's 90% of the proc can reach that clock) Don't waste your money on the 6600 if you want to upgrade in 6 months to a better cpu. Also the 530's will do just fine, in fact the reviews I've read say that the 540s have weak bass compared to the 530's which have been accused of have to much bass.

Reply to deathbybubba

No, you might not always be able to, these days you can't get any 800mhz ram that are worthwhile for overclocking without paying a steep price and you might as well bump up to 1000 or 1066 speeds that are guaranteed to micron d9 chips. I guarantee you that if you get some 6400c4 dominators or regular 6400c4, you won't get anywhere (I have owned some myself), if you want to overclock, go for their 1066 version if you like the dominator hs (plus the d9s in the domiantor are hand selected while other companies don't do that for their high grade) or go for either the g.skill or crucial, ram will seriously increase on a lot of things from what I have experienced, especially once you hit the 1150mhz and above range, I think you would be better off with a e4300/e6300 with high grade memory, you can make best use of the memory with the 6400 imo (since 8*400=3.2ghz, and if you run 2:3 memory divider, that will take you up to a whopping 8O 8O 8O ), that will get you where you want, and the 4mb cache makes hardly any difference, the 12mb cache on the upcoming penryn seems like a complete waste imo since intel's going to make you pay for it

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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ALcattle: Confirmed what I thoughtXD



deathbybubba: Forgot to think about the e4300 as a sub - only heard of the price slash a few days ago. also, nice info on speaks, will get x-530s from amazon nowXD


Taco: might not oc ram that much after all - not much difference in performance and frames after all?, maybe 5-8 frames difference, not much for a 8800gts.

Reply to deusex

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The matrix mode takes a 2 channel audio source and attempts to make it 5.1 Similar to dolby surround but not as advanced.



So, It isn't something that is a enhancement over the X-530s if you have a X-Fi Extrememusic, correct?, and I don't really need it. (since the X-Fis are 7-channel s.cards)




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I could of built that same computer for $1,000.00 with a few mods to purchase equipment you used ..




ExplainXD

Well it wouldn't be exactly, but it's speed would be within range of that computers speed during any benchmark ..

Reply to MEGAWATTZ2000

Well, if you say so, in that case, get the e4300 anyways and save your money, that way you can spend it one future upgrades

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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Present the listXD


Taco - Yeah - I might do that - considering there isnt much difference between a oced e4300 and a e6600, eh?

Reply to deusex

Not really, perhaps for video editing, but for everyday applications, I doubt it

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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That looks like good value for the money. I think the most critical component of a 5.1 sound system is the .1 part(the sub). Don't look at the wattage, look at the size of the sub's speaker, and the lowest frequency that it can produce. The X-530 range is 40hz to 20khz. The next step up from logitech is the Z-5300e which starts at 35hz to 20khz, and costs $135. Probably the best system is the Klipsch promedia ultra 5.1 which has a range of 25hz to 20khz. I don't think they are sold anymore because they had reliability problems if they were not properly ventilated. You could probably get one on e-bay for $300.

Reply to geofelt

Oh, and the sub on the x-530's is good by my standards. I am not a bass person, but it does help make my room very similar to a theatre as far as noise levels. the sub does produce very good sound.

So, it's sounding like the 30's are going to be yours soon eh?

Reply to rabidbunny

yeah, I agree, my friend's 530's sub is good enough for me, especially considering I am using a pair of $30 2.1 logitechs I got on sale for $15, the sub on mine is pathetically small, but it gets the job done to some extent

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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You betXD - can't get any much cheaper than $39.99, especially when Newegg's out of stock at 59.99, and Zipzoomfly is at 74.99!!!

I'm also not particularly a bass person, since when you get bass, you usually get rolled off highs and mids with it as a package, but thanks guys for clarifying the bass - and anyone know if the highs are high?, not rolled off.?

Taco-everyday apps, of course, was considering graphics heavy apps like gaming - fpss and such...oblivion...


Key in point, This X-530 seems A LOT better than my old Altecs 2.1XD, which was like 60-40khz[/quote]

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