Direct X 10a and 8800
Forum Graphic & Displays : Graphics Cards - Direct X 10a and 8800
| Quote : errmmm dx10 came packaged in with windows vista,so if you have vista,you have dx10, also if dx10 is like dx9,then the first few updates will require nothing new from the hardware |
What are you talking about, do you even know?
Guess DX9.0C is no different than that which was supported by DX9.0 when it was just known as 9.0 without the letters?
C'mon people, it's been discussed already.
GF8800 will of course support many features since D3D10.1 is a superset to DX10 (and now separate in that it's just DX10 w/ D3D10.1), but just like the GF6800 supported more features in DX9.0C than the X800 which supported more than the R9700; the D3D10.1 cards will support more than the D3D10.0, and the R600 is rumoured to be D3D10.1 compliant, but just like the various minor differences between the GF7 and X1K, it likely won't matter much for a while, if at all.
If I had time to upload them I'd put the docs up, but instead I'll link to M$' link;
http://download.microsoft.com/down [...] 2_WH06.ppt
THANX! now let`s talk about directx 11 .................. 
| Quote : errmmm dx10 came packaged in with windows vista,so if you have vista,you have dx10, also if dx10 is like dx9,then the first few updates will require nothing new from the hardware |
What are you talking about, do you even know?
Guess DX9.0C is no different than that which was supported by DX9.0 when it was just known as 9.0 without the letters?
C'mon people, it's been discussed already.
GF8800 will of course support many features since D3D10.1 is a superset to DX10 (and now separate in that it's just DX10 w/ D3D10.1), but just like the GF6800 supported more features in DX9.0C than the X800 which supported more than the R9700; the D3D10.1 cards will support more than the D3D10.0, and the R600 is rumoured to be D3D10.1 compliant, but just like the various minor differences between the GF7 and X1K, it likely won't matter much for a while, if at all.
If I had time to upload them I'd put the docs up, but instead I'll link to M$' link;
http://download.microsoft.com/down [...] 2_WH06.ppt
Wow Ape, good link. It looks like I am in fact a liar, and there IS such a thing as directX 10.1 
sigh...well if the 10.1 adds significant improvements I am at least going to wait until the x2900xtx comes out in 65nm with somewhat less of a power draw. Of course by then they may have the X3800XTX out. 
I <3 Ebay.
| Quote : As many programmers are saying we've barely touched the limits of DX9. Look at games like UT3, it's a DX9 game and looks phenomenal. |
It is funny you mentioned that game i saw some gameplay footage the other day of the latest build on the PC and it was running like 200frames/sec that game uses the same technology as R6Vegas and Vegas runs like sh1te.
It seems though that UT3 has even better detailed environment than R6 and still it is waay faster.
That's because epic are programming masters.
agree there
Ubi is well know for his terrible ports, full of bugs and extremely unoptimized.
| Quote : I would like to know how the heck would they be puting out DX10.0a,when DX10.0 is not even out yet.I think someone is pulling your leg my friend.Not to mention that the 8800 series cards are designed around the DX10 archtitecture.Talk to micrsoft and ask them what is going on.I'm sure they'll be honest with you.Grinzzz.Or maybe not. |
cough cought, microsoft is always doing this actually...
they didnt even released vista to the public and they were already doing the service pack 
also dahak... try putting your secs in your "signature" , cause you seem to be copy & paste them in your posts, and thus when someone quotes you,it picks up your specs.. , signatures are for something ya know
| Quote : Direct X10.1 simply looks like a software update, and nothing mentioned in the slide show isn't already supported by the 8800GTX. |
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Man I hope you are right. I am such a hardware slut.
| Quote : Direct X10.1 simply looks like a software update, and nothing mentioned in the slide show isn't already supported by the 8800GTX. |
Well when wasn't DX itself a s0ftware update? 
The 2 points I've heard as being the separating factor are blending implementation , and better context management in the shader. Only a brief mention of blending improvements is in the slides, but it also depends on what's implemented (just like the previous difference in pixel and texture filtering).
Of course we won't know the extent of differences until it ships and test can expose the required support and optional feature support.
Things like better cube map support, and coverage map AA is already in the G80, but if the rumours are true that the G80 is indeed not DX10.1 compliant and the R600 is (as will be S3's fall chip)m then what's the difference, and is it important. I don't think its important enough to second guess purchases the way some people are trying to do spreading FUD, but by the same token, alot of people are talking as if there is no difference, which of course there is, it's impact is unknown because both feature-set support levels are unknown.
| Quote : Direct X10.1 simply looks like a software update, and nothing mentioned in the slide show isn't already supported by the 8800GTX. |
Well when wasn't DX itself a s0ftware update?
The 2 points I've heard as being the separating factor are blending implementation , and better context management in the shader. Only a brief mention of blending improvements is in the slides, but it also depends on what's implemented (just like the previous difference in pixel and texture filtering).
Of course we won't know the extent of differences until it ships and test can expose the required support and optional feature support.
Things like better cube map support, and coverage map AA is already in the G80, but if the rumours are true that the G80 is indeed not DX10.1 compliant and the R600 is (as will be S3's fall chip)m then what's the difference, and is it important. I don't think its important enough to second guess purchases the way some people are trying to do spreading FUD, but by the same token, alot of people are talking as if there is no difference, which of course there is, it's impact is unknown because both feature-set support levels are unknown.
My guess is there IS a difference. Like sm 2.0 and sm 3.0. Sure the software can render 10.1 or whatever, but it will not be hardware accelerated. I think I chose wisely not to get the 8800 until the r600 and crysis comes out. I still have no idea how well crysis will run,
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