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So after I bought the 8800GTS and it didn't fit in my case, the only other option was to step down to the 7900 level. I was considering getting the 7950GT, but it doesn't seem like the card preforms well enough to be about $100 more than the 7900, aside from the fact that the XFX 7950GT is passively cooled [it seems like the 7950gt is only 2 or 3fps faster than 7900gt].

On newegg.com I have been looking at 7900GT's and I found these two, and I really can't see any difference between the two:
Card 1: Molex Power
Card 2: PCIe Power

I notice only three differences in the cards:
-The Heat sinks/fans
-The Price [why this is different IDK]
-and the power connectors

So my questions are:
Is either molex or PCIe power better or is there no difference but shape?
And is there something else I am missing between the two that I don't see?
and do you think stepping up to 7950GT is worth the extra money?

I've read all the reviews to see if anyone comments on something that makes it distinguishable from the other card, but I found nothing. Let me know what you think.

Thanks

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Get an X1950XT instead, unless you HAVE to have an Nvidia card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102067

Reply to Heyyou27

get the 7950GT if youre gonna get one. Or just wait for a DX10 card since youre spending a lot of money. May as well go DX10 while youre at it.

Reply to wingless

Yeah now isn't the best time to blow $200 on a Graphics card, but that X1950XT the other guy mentioned looks waay better for the money either way. Get it if you must but otherwise get something to hold you off.

Reply to Wonderwill

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Get an X1950XT instead, unless you HAVE to have an Nvidia card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102067



that looks like a great card, but that card, like the 8800GTS I originally bought won't fit in my case either. First I can't use a double wide card because my only [1] PCI 16x sits at the top of my case, and the 8800gts was too long as well, [my cpu and heat sink are in the way] so its likely that card will be as well.
As far as d10x cards, the 8800 is the only series from Nvidia that runs it, and again they wont fit, but also I don't have Vista, and I will probably just buy another computer before I do that.

So you really think the 7950gt is worth it [because that is probably the best nvidia card that will fit in my case]??

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Yeah now isn't the best time to blow $200 on a Graphics card, but that X1950XT the other guy mentioned looks waay better for the money either way. Get it if you must but otherwise get something to hold you off.



I am running off the 6800XT and its not a bad graphics card, but it sucks for the games I want to play. And I'd prefer not to wait longer than a month or so, I'm guessing you ment hold off till summer?

Also, this card doesn't look to bad, it's even cheaper and its close to the ones I mentioned above as far as core speeds http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150202

Reply to frenchbread

Well actually as long as you won't be playing Oblivion you really don't need to spend that much. If you want a smaller card, get the 7900 GS or even a 7600 GT if you really want to save money. That's what I am using and it plays most games just fine when paired with a C2D.

Reply to Wonderwill

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Well actually as long as you won't be playing Oblivion you really don't need to spend that much. If you want a smaller card, get the 7900 GS or even a 7600 GT if you really want to save money. That's what I am using and it plays most games just fine when paired with a C2D.



I'll be playing at least the following:
Oblivion, CoD2, America's Army, FlighSimX [probably the most graphically intense] AOEIII,
and that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

Reply to frenchbread
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If u already have the card, why don't you buy a case instead of a new gfx card?

Reply to pmr

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If u already have the card, why don't you buy a case instead of a new gfx card?



because if i get a new case im gonna want a new mobo, [one that can over clock the cpu, has more than 1 pcix16 slot, more SATA ports, higher FSB], and if i get a new mobo, i might as well get a new cpu.... see where this is goin?

also my mobo is designed for a special type of case with cpu in front

Reply to frenchbread

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If u already have the card, why don't you buy a case instead of a new gfx card?



because if i get a new case im gonna want a new mobo, [one that can over clock the cpu, has more than 1 pcix16 slot, more SATA ports, higher FSB], and if i get a new mobo, i might as well get a new cpu.... see where this is goin?

also my mobo is designed for a special type of case with cpu in front

Why does a new case make you need a new mobo? Just keep the 8800 GTS you have for crying out loud and get a Centurion 5 to save money.

Reply to Wonderwill
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If u already have the card, why don't you buy a case instead of a new gfx card?



because if i get a new case im gonna want a new mobo, [one that can over clock the cpu, has more than 1 pcix16 slot, more SATA ports, higher FSB], and if i get a new mobo, i might as well get a new cpu.... see where this is goin?

also my mobo is designed for a special type of case with cpu in front
you have serious problems...kill yourself :twisted:

Reply to pmr

I don't seem to follow/ understand your anology...If you could pleas tell me/ us why you new mobo etc etc if you get new case? If you said you'll need new cpu if you buy new board, I would understand, but this :roll: ... Well, if you plan to kill yourself or others (except me), put me in your wish as sole legatee :wink: of all your belongings

Reply to aBg_rOnGak

It looks like i failed to clarify

I HAVE ALREADY SENT THE CARD BACK, LIKE BEFORE I STARTED THIS THREAD and it wont fit in my case because MY MOBO DOESNT ALLOW ENOUGH SPACE BETWEEN PCI16X SLOT AND CPU, I JUST CANT DO IT WITH OUT A NEW MOBO, A CASE IS ONLY HALF THE BATTLE and like i said if im gonna get a new mobo, might as well get a better processor.

my computer is on the low side, and I dont want to spend anymore money on it than a graphics card, thats all I want to make better, other wise i want a new computer, theres no sense in me buying a new case for the 8800gts when im likely to buy a new computer in the next year or two, and when the 7900 series will probably get me buy until then

So can we get back to the 7900gt vs 7950gt or something related to the 7900 series

Reply to frenchbread
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7950GT (256MB) for $219.99

Reply to nhobo

That's stupid; you could get a new case for less than $50 and keep the much faster 8800GTS.

Reply to Heyyou27

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That's stupid; you could get a new case for less than $50 and keep the much faster 8800GTS.


YOU DONT SEEM TO GET IT, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH PHYSICAL SPACE ON MY MOTHER BOARD TO ALLOW THE CARD TO FIT, SITTING IN THE PICX16 SLOT, THE BACK END OF THE CARD RUNS INTO THE CPU/HEATSINK THEREFORE IT SIMPLY CANT FIT WITH OUT A NEW MOBO!

not tryin to be mean, but i said this twice already

Reply to frenchbread

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7950GT (256MB) for $219.99



The image would help so i can try to see if the card is too long, the reason i was lookin at the XFX version is because it is passivly cooled, and as a result of no fan the card is short enough to fit in my case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150189
but i can assume that buy your suggestion you think it is worth the extra money to get a 7950gt over a 7000gt?

Reply to frenchbread

show us a image of your pc, case, and mobo etc

labled with specs and dimensions.

Reply to tehrobzorz

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show us a image of your pc, case, and mobo etc

labled with specs and dimensions.


here is a quick one, have to do dimensions another time
things in green are all after market, so you can see case wasnt designed for addons
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/3229/620wencodedih5.jpg

Computer specs:
-Dual Core Intel P4 @ 3.0GHz
-2 GB of Dual Channel SDDR2 @ 2x1GB [Factory Over clocked, but I forget what the specs are off the top of my head]
-XFX 6800XT [current]
-CD Drive
-DVD+R/DVD+RW Drive [SATA]
-2 SATA Hard Drives
-An additional Antec adjustable speed fan
-and I also have a Regular PCI card that has access to two SATA Ports
I am planning on adding a sound card, and possibly another fan to make sure my graphics card stays nice and cool

Reply to frenchbread
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The case looks like it is a Dell 5000 series, am I correct ?

If that is the case, I have fitted a 7900GT with an external power requirement, Molex, in one before with no major problem. The card was a single width one, XFX I believe, cannot remember for sure.

The only problem I had was connecting the power supply to the card. The machine did not supply one nor did the card so I had to get my own cables for it.

However, I do not have any other cards fitted so I do not know how much clearance you will have.

Hope this help.

Reply to kinneer

Not to beat a dead horse, but you could always get a compact heatsink if that's the only thing the 8800 hits. You'd probably have to get a molex fan connector, or maybe steal the connectors used by the fans that currently move air over the passive heatsink, but it is an option.

Reply to mr_fnord

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Not to beat a dead horse, but you could always get a compact heatsink if that's the only thing the 8800 hits. You'd probably have to get a molex fan connector, or maybe steal the connectors used by the fans that currently move air over the passive heatsink, but it is an option.



like i said, all the more money i want to spend is the video card, and thats it, all the rest goes toward a new computer

Reply to frenchbread
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do NOT get the XFX passive 7950GT - I sent mine back when temps hit 118 C.

I got the eVGA to replace it, and even it required opening up the expansion slots and an extra case fan in a poorly ventilated DELL.

Reply to nhobo
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