CoolIT Freezone CPU Cooler or multiple component cooling?

Hey, i know most of you have heard about the CoolIT Freezone CPU Cooler and how well it does. im building a PC and it will involve 2 geforce 8800 gtx watercooled with danger den blocks... and the mobo will be water cooled also... now the system i am useing for this will be

http://www.performance-pcs.com/cat [...] ts_id=4428

i will get the same pump as in the description/options/pictures, but i might get the case custom and get a 4 fan radiator(Black Ice® GTX Gen Two Xtreme 480 Highest Peformance Radiator)(i emailed them about it already) and i might get a better reservoir(Performance-PCs Cyclone 120 External Mounted Reservoir or a Alphacool Repack-cooling Slot-In Special Edition Plexi-UV) but we'll see

anyway as u can tell im debating between getting the freeone cooled or getting a swift tech apogee water block and adding the cpu to my loop...

any other suggestions would be fine too. thank you, happy new years.

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*BUMP* please help im really stuck in a dilemma i've heard the geforce 8800 GTXs produce alot of heat as well as the asus striker which is why i dont want to add a CPU to the loop

Reply to Whokidmo

The Coolit performs as any good HSF...

This is the only way I see it could work out:
DDC-2 with a modded top (possibly two of them)
Apogee or MP-05 SP LE
Maze4 for the GPUs with RAMsinks (34 of them)
Thermochill PA120.3, this is the only radiator that will hold up to the loop

Reply to rwaritsdario

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Hey, i know most of you have heard about the CoolIT Freezone CPU Cooler and how well it does. im building a PC and it will involve 2 geforce 8800 gtx watercooled with danger den blocks... and the mobo will be water cooled also... now the system i am useing for this will be

http://www.performance-pcs.com/cat [...] ts_id=4428

i will get the same pump as in the description/options/pictures, but i might get the case custom and get a 4 fan radiator(Black Ice® GTX Gen Two Xtreme 480 Highest Peformance Radiator)(i emailed them about it already) and i might get a better reservoir(Performance-PCs Cyclone 120 External Mounted Reservoir or a Alphacool Repack-cooling Slot-In Special Edition Plexi-UV) but we'll see

anyway as u can tell im debating between getting the freeone cooled or getting a swift tech apogee water block and adding the cpu to my loop...

any other suggestions would be fine too. thank you, happy new years.

Jealous!!! That's the custom case I had already picked out. But,
now I may just let overdrivePC build mine. I like what you're doing to it.
With all the heat from the 8800 - why - bring it to the CPU.
Let me know how this goes.

Reply to tmac

well... i sorta can't get the maze 4 blocks cause im ordering the BFG geforce 8800 GTX water cooled editions... so u think the thermo chill 3 fan radiator is better then the 4 fan black ice? and whats DDC-2? and how do i get one with modded top? and whats the MP-05 SP LE? another CPU block? im going towards the cool it now cause as the other guy said, i dont want to give all the heat form the geforces onto the CPU BTW it's a qx6700 just an fyi... any more suggestions thank you to those that replied already

Reply to Whokidmo

Get the Freezone. Somebody should make "My Supersweet 16: Pimp My PC Edition" and the show would star you.

Heh, I can't wait for the 8900 series to come out and smoke the 8800 series into shame. Then again, maybe R600 will take the crown. Christ, I thought spending $600 on graphics was a lot, and you're spending $1,000 more than I did.

Reply to NumenorLord

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Get the Freezone. Somebody should make "My Supersweet 16: Pimp My PC Edition" and the show would star you.

bah, the freezone uses aircooled tecs, making it only as good as the tuniq tower, go for that

The coolit has been discussed a bit, and has been proven way to expensive for the performance, make a costume kit instead for what you are paying

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

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bah, the freezone uses aircooled tecs, making it only as good as the tuniq tower, go for that

i dont know... if you look at the reviews, it cools better then DD TDX block... thats much better then a normal heatsink and fan combo, i think useing the water and TEC technology is a great combo but im not sure if it beats full on 1/2 tubing water cooling(plus the other components), the more i learn the more confused i am. damnit!!!

Reply to Whokidmo

you spelled dammit wrong :wink:

But, for the price of adsing a peltier on your self (I will show you how) and getting you a nice water loop, you could probably buy one coolit freezone that is equivalent to a tuniq tower 120 at best.

See, the feezone uses TECs to cool the water, but the problem is that the TECs are air cooled, meaning that they actually don't make much of a difference, you will get far better results if you place the tec on the cpu itself instead. THe waterblock it has already attached is okay, not great though

Just to let you know, the Tuniw Tower is probably the best air cooler on the market, it will give you probably a good 10c drop at idle against a stock hsf, and who knows how much of a drop against load on an oc'd cpu

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

yeah i learned about TEC coolers on http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/5013/103/
but if you look at the reviews for example:
http://techgage.com/article/coolit [...] u_cooler/4
http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-327-4.htm
http://www.extrememhz.com/freezone-p3.shtml
http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/supe [...] Page4.html

it idles at 13-24(on a prescott!!!) thats crazy, u can barely get that on a normal water cooling system

im just afraid that with the geforces being overclocked and the CPU too it'll be too hot for 1 4 fan radiator but im not that expert you guys are

Reply to Whokidmo

meh, amd3d got an extreme oc'd cpu to idle at 2* and full load at 25*, and I mean for amd, extreme oc (above 1ghz with a dual core, two cores are hotter than one) with peltier on the cpu and an average water loop

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

You arent that far off this time actually. Besides the TDP of the CPUs you also take in consideration how much of that you are really using, or if youre using more :wink:
Here we talked a bit about why it doesnt nor will perform as expected.

Reply to rwaritsdario

Yeah but look at the reviews... it got 9/10 or recommended or kickass on every review... only issue has been the price other then that the cooling is labeled as "great, spectacular, kickass."

ok since i cant make a decision can you guys answer this for me, given the watercooling loop/system i will have(CPU included, plus see above for system) will the CPU be cooled efficiently enough along with the graphics cards and the mobo to be overclocked fairly high, the graphics cards will be overclocked as well, keep that in mind. Also a overclocked CPU and GFXs means hot hot mobo so that'll be adding some heat too.

Reply to Whokidmo

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well... i sorta can't get the maze 4 blocks cause im ordering the BFG geforce 8800 GTX water cooled editions... so u think the thermo chill 3 fan radiator is better then the 4 fan black ice? and whats DDC-2? and how do i get one with modded top? and whats the MP-05 SP LE? another CPU block? im going towards the cool it now cause as the other guy said, i dont want to give all the heat form the geforces onto the CPU BTW it's a qx6700 just an fyi... any more suggestions thank you to those that replied already

I guess you will have to forced to save a ton of bucks and buy regular 8800 then :wink:
The Thermochill PA120.3 is the perfect radiator (asides from price of course), the BI radiator would have to have 4 fans with over 100CFM each to kinda equal the cooling power of the Thermochill with three very silent Yate Loon fans. Without mentioning the huge restrictivess you will have, while the PA series are the least restrictive radiator I've seen.
The DDC-2 is a Laing pump, also knowned as Swiftech 355. You can find modded tops for them (theyre good because they increase flow by allowing 1/2" barbs) from PetrasTechShop.com (currently sold out but shoot him a mail asking when theyll be back, excellent customer service), Alphacool and Radiical (they ship worldwide).
Since theyre a bit hard to find right now, you can get a Iwaki pump, theyre quite big and not cheap, but they will get the job done. Check them out here. I will advice you on what to buy if you decide to go that route.
Yes, the MP-05 isa CPU block it is at least as good as the Strom by $15 less. At this time it is unknowed if it will outperform it because there are no direct comparisons.

Reply to rwaritsdario

God bless you, rwaritsdario.

Reply to Whokidmo

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Yeah but look at the reviews... it got 9/10 or recommended or kickass on every review... only issue has been the price other then that the cooling is labeled as "great, spectacular, kickass."

But none of them have been done correctly. I havent seen a review by someone that knows the first thing about TEC or Thermodynamics yet. Its like reviewers giving the Monsoon and such a perfect 10 when a $40 Big Typhoon performs 3Cs below it (and would outperform it with a better fan, lapping and the right paster).

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ok since i cant make a decision can you guys answer this for me, given the watercooling loop/system i will have(CPU included, plus see above for system) will the CPU be cooled efficiently enough along with the graphics cards and the mobo to be overclocked fairly high, the graphics cards will be overclocked as well, keep that in mind. Also a overclocked CPU and GFXs means hot hot mobo so that'll be adding some heat too.

You will have very good temps (not as good as a dedicated CPU loop of course), what im trying to do with those parts is to reduce restriction as much as possible, so a single pump will be enough. But as far as cooled "efficiently", itll beat the crap out of any air cooler :wink:

Reply to rwaritsdario

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God bless you, rwaritsdario.

Thank you. I'm here to help, so just shoot me a PM or post here is you need any more help

Reply to rwaritsdario

I;d have to disagree with you on the pump dario, this time, I would have to recomend a hydor pump, this one offers 950 gph, which is pretty good in my opinoin
here's the link to it
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] 30c107s155

as for the radiator, bi finally has a new gtx platform that basically cools the coolant twice that I would compare to the thermochill, but I guess your right that the thermochill probably deserves that crown, as just looking at the surface area and the amount of metal on is amazing

here's the bi
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] g30c95s570

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

GPH isnt everything youre looking for in a pump. That pump has only 3m of head height which is incredibely little when youre pushing trhu a impregnant block like the MP-05 SP LE.

Reply to rwaritsdario

I guess, but still, hydors are supposed to have incredible lifetimes and I guess that being able to push that much water kinda balances out the head height. But considering its only 10 more than the swiftech I found that pumps only 350 gph, I don't know, but it sounds like a pretty good deal to me

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

Whoever did reviews that topped at 25*C probably didn't have the Freezone setup properly. Everything I've read puts even a C2D at around 7-15* load, even OC'd (e6600) to about 3.2ghz. Given, if you add multiple blocks to it through modding you will get higher temps than just cooling the CPU but I have to agree with what you said you have read that the only real negative to the Freezone is the price for only CPU cooling out of the box.

It beats any watercooling setup hands down without breaking a sweat. Just make sure you have ample case cooling etc.

I would find it somewhat hard to put that $ down for cpu cooling personally but the performance makes it tempting.

Reply to Talon

those are exceptional results for the freezone, but you also halve to take into consideration that for a 6600 is a pathetic oc, and ssince conroes run cool on their own, I'm not surprised at those results. You could get a good complete loop for the price, add a peltier fir 40 more, and you wikk achieve the same good temps, but you will have a complete loop instead. Thats why I'm against it

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

just a question, my friend wanted to know, maybe one of you knows this, can you change the 92mm fan on the coolit freezone cooler? theres a nice 92mm fan from vantec, much high speed then the stock fan:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] =g36c15s59

which should increase the cooling of the coolt by about 5-10c

BTW look at my new topic
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/har [...] 15679.html
thanks again, bye

BTW tacos, if it wasn't for the price, which is better watercooling ur CPU or coolit? and how much difference?

(fixed link

Reply to Whokidmo

To tell you the truth, I don't think that replacing the fan will make much of a difference because it doesn't use a radiator. It will make a small differene because you can chill the peltiers better, but not worth the sound, you are better off with putting a jet engine TT smart fan that runs @ 3500rpms (120mm) and put that in a tuniq tower. Simular results for much less, same level of noise.

I personally say that it really depends on the budget Since you said cost isn't an issue, a custom kit kills the coolit hands down. But for 300, that's hard to say. You can get an entire premium loop from swiftech that covers everything for only 250, and that is the better deal right there, but your cpu temps won't be as good BUT you can always add a high quality radiator for about a 100 give or take 30-40 and get your cpu down to the same level, AND get good temps on the other stuff too.

You mind fixing the second link, you put the vantec fan again instead of your new topic

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

Youcan change the fan on the Freezone easily if it's a 92x92x25. Note that ANY change in fans voids the warranty. I don't see why you couldn't put a high CFN 92x92x38mm in there, just not sure. The added CFM beyond the stock 65-70 max may help with the EXHAUST process, but at least one reveiwer ( sorry, don't have the reference) claimed that the six TECs on the Freezone can max out if doing extreme OCing under a full load no matter how much exhaust--it just can't keep up. However, other reviewers found that instability kicked in during OCing bfore Freezone cooling failed.

So as some of the experienced responders have claimed, the devil's in the details, the system and OC specifics, and the skills and knowledge of the reviewer.

I'm considering the Freezone myself for a new high-performance build that will be otherwise aircooled (CM Stacker 832, coming out end of January- mostly same as 830). My own interst is in maximum performance matched with very safe temps. and QUIET. The Freezone fan tops out at 36dB which by many standards is fairly quiet, but I'd like to put a 120mm fan on the Freezone by reversing the 120 adapter that comes with it, using a Noctua 120mm, 1200rpm,60cfm, 25dB MAX!, and see if I can keep all system noise under 25dB.

BTW, a lightly used Freezone just sold for $225.00 on Ebay, and Amazon just sold out at $279.00 including ship.

Reply to christopher3393

already told him, besides, we both agreed on setting him up with better cooling

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

Yeah, i have different intentions as you, i was looking for a clean water cooling system whcih i thought cooled as well as custom loops but a decent loop will cool a CPU better then the cool it, but if your intentions are for quite and you dont want tubes all over your computer i think the cool it is a great solution, i for one though am a performance whore, i don't care about tubes or quite etc i just want SPEED

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