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Your assumption was correct. 8)
2.3 volts seems very stable for 24/7 ops.
The modules seem to stay right around 34C at the top of the chips between the heat sinks measured with two thermal couples one reported with the Aero Cool digital fan speed controller and the other thermal couple using a fluke 88.
I try to stay close to that range.
After melting the heat sinks off my geil 8O
I don’t think I like the thought of overvolting any more.
You on the other hand
I only have one request.
Make sure your digital camera is handy when they melt

Ill make sure my tape is placed right and my clamps are tight. Hopefully I wont run with your same manufacturer failure faith
34c (if the reading is somewhat accurate) is exceptionally good for RAM, but at the voltages the P5B D can achieve unmodded isnt surprising either.

I trust my fluke.
at 2.45 volts they get toasty right around 56C
the P180 fan mods helped a lot.
I wonder how hot the geil got before the spreader slid off 8O
that by the way was at thier rated 2.4 volts

Without heatspreaders any voltage will make them melt @400Mhz given some time.

Still not worth a fan tough, maybe for ~2.55v
Considered a vDIMM mod?

Are you speaking of voltage increases would make them melt, or that they would melt no matter the voltage without the spreader? Just curious...

wes

That they will melt without the heatspreader at any voltage and above 400Mhz.
Keep the heatspreaders on and you can go up to ~2.55v without the heatspreader burning your fingertip

how come I can't reach 1200 mhz then, if I have the dominator airflow fan, a modded p180b case that has thermaltake a2018s running @ full speed (each provides 100 cfm ), and I am a professional idiot not afraid of lighting my ram on fire from too much voltage

Max I have reached is 1164 mhz with 5-5-5-15 timings, even if I lossen the timings the ram won't go higher

First of all that is a Mickey Mouse RAM cooler, snatch one of the TTs and place it on top of the modules.
Slacking the timings past 5-5-5-15 doesnt do a thing in DDR2, or just dimishing returns.

Remember that all modules are different, a 20Mhz from one to another is normal. But past simple faith I believe youre CPU limited.

bah, the tt has only one 40mm fan that runs slower, plus I'd have to take the heatsinks off to install the tt

Also, I have taken my cpu to 2.97 ghz now, but my ram will ony last until I hit 2.91 ghz, meaning I'm ram limited

But I thought that slacking a 6 or an 18 would allow higher ocs

I meanone of the TT fans, a Thunderblade. As I said, for the RAM, its normal within a 20Mhz difference.

Liquid cooling has its drawbacks. If you just want to run a PC, cool it, and be trouble free, a heatsink is better. The problems with liquid are the following:

- Price, over $100 just to cool the CPU. The cooler can easily cost more than the CPU itself.
- Ease of installation. Pipes, routing, water blocks, radiators, etc...
- Portability, I'd rather bring a heatsink to a LAN than a whole water system.
- Reliability. First of all leaks are a scary though, but are rare if they ever do happen. But if the pump breaks you CPU fires. If the fan on an air system breaks at least the heatsink will same your life if its a good one.
- The cooling performance of a water system is no better then a good air system in most cases.

So for all this I'd say a liquid cooled system is worse than an air system for 99.9% of the population.

But if you need extreme overclocking, cooling, looks, low noise, an extreme geek factor, then a chilled liquid system is the way to go. Air condition your case on top of than and you have a goldmine.

Noise is a big bonus to liquid cooling. Also the upgrade factor that you can add water blocks to your RAM, GPU, and chipsets. This is the big factor with water cooling. The the price can be justified seing how all you need to do is upgrade the block for future CPUs. The system, RAD, Piping, Pump,etc... are all reusable. If looks and a windowed tricked case are in need, then clear pipes and colored liquid are cool. You can even get UV reactive liquid. That's awesome. Liquid is definitely reserved for gaming rigs and geeks.

I highly disagree on your last statement, that is highly judgmental right there. I play short stop for my high schools baseball team and wrestle too, another guy here broke the bench lifting record at his school, and we all know that dario is constantly running from the law [j/k]

But a person that can afford water cooling will not have a cpu they bought for 30 dollars at a garage sale, and even if they did, they could take it up to the speeds of a much more expensive cpu to justify the value of it.



And to dario, I do have a tt fan, the a2018s I have are tt "smart" fans that I run @ 2800 rpms to get the max 100 cfm (though they do get really loud, so I only do that when I overclock or when I game

thermaltake a2018
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811999122

I was going to get the one with 3500 rpms, but the dba was too high on that modle, plus I got them on sale for 8 a piece on xoxide, so not a bad deal

Gondo, I, just like I_Love_Tacos, will need to kindly disagree with your statement. But seriously, you're just looking to get flamed .
As I've heard many times around the net, the highest priced air cooler will perform as well as the worst watercooling set-up.

8O
you have the decimal point in the wrong place

I see liquid cooling is not the answer for you and thats ok but you need to research better before posting inacurate data.

I wont flame you although it would be fun its just not my style.
8)

Liquid cooling is worth the cost, effort, and risks if you are going to do serious overclocking. While the majority of the posts here are mostly relevent, they have digressed to a certain extent. And most of them have studiously avoided raising legitimate concerns about liquid cooling systems.

Based on what I have researched and some experience with liquid cooling in other applications, I have the following observations. Note that the final decision and responsibility is yours. Also note that some of my observations may not be applicable to your particular case.

1) As noted in a recent article on THG, overclocking does stress the CPU and will shorten its life, regardless of whether you can keep the temperature low. What wasn't discused and is not mentioned anywhere in these posts is that, with few exceptions, overclocking voids your warranty. This may not be a concern to you, but it is something that one should keep in mind. Same caveat applies to overclocking GP