Help me chose: Athlon 64 X2 5200+ VS. Core 2 Duo E6400?

At stock speeds the X2 5200+ would be slightly faster so I'd go for that. The E6400 would own the X2 if you're overclocking, though.

Haha, well if you've got the benchmarks for the Stars processors...show them to me.

This guy's a fanboy, things could go either way this upcoming year. If you're only options are those two, go with the 5200+.

edit - if you want to overclock, go for the 6400. You'll be able to get a lot more performance out of it, then, more than the 5200+, even overclocked (probably).

6400...Same performance, and $100 cheaper. If u decide to OC later (which u most likely will), the 6400 has much more potential.

He said that he could get them for the same price.

for a performance pc.
nothing but core2
if oc later, defect most of amd line.

for other range(lower price), sempron & amd x2.
but they won't go with the Gefore8 anyway.....

The 2 cpus are pretty much the same in overall performance, but personally i would get the E6400 (lower power consumption).

y'all are so drunk on this OC crap, 2.5GHz is enough for anyone except the most "extreme over the top moneys no limit gotta have the fastest chip in the world i got bragging rights gamer"...
3GHz for servers and workstaions running multiple apps...
Back before we had access to dual-core chips and megaspeed cpu's overclocking was necessary to achieve the required performance levels for a specific program to run correctly....
Now it's just a game of who has the fastest processor, never mind the fact that it's overkill and mere mortals cannot harness the full potential of said speed-demon......but it's still cool.
Focus your energy on something constructive, like using all that power to create world peace....
I'm not singling you out bro, just hitching a ride on your thread

You know I laugh every time I read posts like this. Is it odd for a person to want to get more out of what they paid for, especially knowing they can for $50-$100. Let me give you an example. You go out buy your self a new car. You find out that by adding a K&N Air Filter you will shave 1 second of the quarter mile and your top speed will increase by 30mph. For a mere..$100? Whould you do it? I know quite a few people who would. But why? The average speed limit is 50mph. Why do you need a car that goes 150? People sink thousands of dollars into cars to make them go faster, and perform better, for no other reason than...Yah you guessed it, bragging rights. The fact of the matter is, it's human nature to want more out of what you have, especially if you know its capable of doing it.

hmm....just a thought.. get the 5200+.... so you can help AMD in ur own little way to bring out a better processor. I mean, u know, stick with them in this dark (est?) hr. (no flame pls.)

If thats your reason I'm not going to flame you for it. But would you have done such with the 3.8Gz P4, arguably one of the worst performer than almost everything else?

what about an x2 3800+ for $130.. still will be able to handle any of todays games, especially with that 8800! lol, i know this is far from the performance you were looking for, but it could save you some dough.

I just grabbed a historic old processor for my HT rig, an FX-55. Paired with nice memory its just plain fast. The Core/Xeons are nice but there's still some descent AMD deals out there.

As there is not much in it I would currently go for the C2D because of lower power condumption and better headroom for later oc'ing.

However the 65nm AMD chips should be reviewed in the next few weeks so I might wait to see how they fair before making a purchase.

Both chips are somewhat underpowered for that video card though!!!!!!!!

Agreed, but he's not overclocking! 8O

LoL, so true - look at OCnewb, running E6400 @ 3.7ghz (463x8) heheh, that's 175% or what?
But ya gotta OC these a little bit, why not? Even I have my FSB at 300 on all stock voltages,
L8R

LoL, so true - look at OCnewb, running E6400 @ 3.7ghz (463x8) heheh, that's 175% or what?
But ya gotta OC these a little bit, why not? Even I have my FSB at 300 on all stock voltages,
L8R

I just replaced my Scythe Infinity with a Tuniq Tower and am completely blown away with the diff!!!! I am now running 3.6ghz at 1.4cvore P95 stable for 24+hrs with load temps of 52c on one core and 54c on the other.


With my infinity I was loading at 65c at just 3.4ghz with only 1.325vcore



I know I could easily do 3.7ghz now! 8)

Well damnit the only reason I didnt purchase the Monsoon TEC is because everyone was screaming at me how it sucked for Core 2 duo chips! they said it was only good for high power CPU's like some of the P4's and such.

Oh well, either way im now working on getting 3.8ghz stable.

I know you said no overclocking.

I have a 6400. I got it up to 2.5 ghz no voltage mods. There is no stability issues, only crashed twice in 4 months and thats better than average for most computers considering i run mine 24/7 on climate prediction.net

You should be get it up to 2.8 easily! Only slight +....

So you may say whats the point. You pay $240 for a processor thats doing what an $800 processor does.

There is a great article on anandtech.com.... http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipse [...] i=2802&p=2

You should be able to get it up to 2.88 ghz at 1.35 voltage, up from 1.3volts.

I actually got my E6400 all the way up to 3.3ghz P95 stable for 14+hrs at the default 1.3vcore. It was funny too because so many guys here were calling bs left and right but that was nothing I couldnt handle with a few screen shots.

Oddly enough after 3.5ghz I have to start upping the vcore more frequently as I suppose the CPU is getting near its limit.

I just installed my new Tuniq Tower 120 and right now im sitting at 3.7ghz at 1.45vcore rock solid. I think I will just leave it here and be done with it.

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heh pick me pick me!! I was one of those guys, and indeed was shut up with your screenies. U got a good chip on your hands. As far as the Monsoon II, for moderate OC's its not worth it. However if you wanna push 4ghz, its great.

E6400.

That's impossible.
The Xbox360 GPU is way faster (and has much more advanced functionalities, more than DX9) than a 6800 ultra.
I don't think even a X6800 with 8800GTX could emulate and Xbox360 at full frame rate.

That's impossible.
The Xbox360 GPU is way faster (and has much more advanced functionalities, more than DX9) than a 6800 ultra.
I don't think even a X6800 with 8800GTX could emulate and Xbox360 at full frame rate.

Last I checked the Xbox 360 GPU was a stunted 7900GT with extra extensions, giving the Xbox 360 DirectX 9.0X, which is some where between DX 9.0C and DX 10. The 360 CPU is a 3 core IBM powerpc proc, and pretty sure a X6800 could challenge it, and a QX6700 could lay it to waste

So yes, it probably out paces the 6800 Ultra, but as for the dual opty's.... idk I would need more information in order to make an educated guess.


Actually the GPU in the 360 is nothing at all like the 7900GT. Its GPU is made by ATI and uses a unified shader architecture making it actually more in common with a 8800GTX than anything else right now at the moment.

However the GPU in the 360 is beaten pretty easily by both a X1900XT or a 7900GTX which are both non unified shader but posses more processing power and speed than the 360 GPU which offsets the advantage that the 360's GPU had with the unified shader architecture. If the 360's GPU had been faster and had a higher fillrate then things would have been the other way around.


As for comparing it to the 8800GTX it gets slaughtered by that card as everything else does at the moment.


Now on to the CPU. This is the part everyone seems to misunderstand, the CPU in the 360 is nothing special with its in-order read only code , its easily said to be matched by a pentium 4 running at 1.6 to 1.8ghz.

Any processor north of that will simply kill it, and please dont even compare it to a core 2 duo or a dual core Amd as either one of those will run circles around it day and night much less a quad core.

lol its ok man. the cell cpu in the PS3 is also a in order code read only cpu. its the most hyped up cpu ever and in all reality is no better than the one in the 360.