AMD is the new Big Oil
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Since they're having problems convincing the average consumer of their strengths, it looks like AMD is getting the US government to do their dirty work for them.
Energy Probe
I'm not saying this is a bad idea, but AMD picks a particularly bad time for them to support looking at energy efficiency. What would be funny is if the government looked at current products today and did a performance/energy comparison. Unfortunately it looks like it would be just servers and not an Intel Conroe or Quad core vs the 4x4.
Maybe Al Gore should try out the 4x4 and link it to at least 50% of future global warming (you know, from just Baron's rig). 
| Quote : Since they're having problems convincing the average consumer of their strengths, it looks like AMD is getting the US government to do their dirty work for them.
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Child, please. I will post my power numbers. I will even measure how much time I spend at 100% load and measure how much power it is with the configuration I choose. it should be one proc more than a single socket with the same amount of peripherals.
| Quote : Since they're having problems convincing the average consumer of their strengths, it looks like AMD is getting the US government to do their dirty work for them.
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Yup.... lets jsut ignore the not so recent past, in fact the Netburst CPU's are still being sold in droves (both in desktops and servers).
Seeing as they are very close to 65nm and the power consumption reduction it should bring I doubt they are too worried about singular things like 4x4 which are energy hogs. Look at the auto industry, they just need to meet an AVERAGE energy consumption, which means offsetting SUV's with things like a Prius. Unless youe xpect 4x4 to be a monster hit (which it won't be) its barely a blip in the overall sales.
http://www.extremetech.com/article [...] 252,00.asp
"We always have to look at all the options, but that [the Quad FX] roadmap is 125-watts, extended through next year," he said.
So you're going to take the statement of one to judge all Forumzers?.. I concur though, Quad FX does suck big time 
dean, just saw your sig, that's pretty hilarious. Must have missed that thread.
| Quote : dean, just saw your sig, that's pretty hilarious. Must have missed that thread. |
It was pretty priceless. Especially for somebody like me that absolutely loves irony .
Yes, gm0n3y! And that's what... err... makes it... a better chip...
... $hit!
| Quote : Of course, 4x4 could rock in a year or 2 (if you don't care about punching a hole in the ozone layer), but right now it doesn't have enough virtues to outweigh the bad (IMO). |
Using a 4x4 is not going to punch a hole in the ozone layer. CPUs don't emit aerosols, nor free radicals, nor do they use much more power than the monster 8800 series video cards - no one's even mentioned anything about power troubles since they came out.
The C2D is not a server class chip. It doesn't support EEC, nor is it certified for 24/7 operation at a constant 100% load. The 4x4 is.
C2D is faster. Big freaking whoop. Everyone knows it. But, 4x4 has the advantage that it is a server-class chip, and therefore can do certain things the C2D may be capable of, but quite possibly isn't. And that's why it's a better server chip - because there's a guarantee that comes with it. The C2D doesn't.
Ummmmm NETHER ARE "SERVER CHIPS" CERTIFIED FOR 24/7 OPERATION
4x4 is an opty without ECC requirements
C2Q is faster, cheaper, colder overall - now thats the big deal - why pay more for less? 
Now your comparing a video card to a CPU? the 8800 didnt go far heat/power wise from the last series, it still doesnt cover the fact that 4x4 is hotter and crappier.
Kinda sad, a whole new socket, chipset, mobo design etc all to make such a crud product, and all the AMD fanboys "amd scales better cause of HTT"
To be honnest i was thinking AMD could have pulled the stunt off and showd an expensive but quick alternative to Intel, AMD let me down.
BTW, mad, I like how you have an "Evil Inside" as your avatar, but right now you're running an Intel CPU.
We need to get the AMD and Intel guys on the global warming issue, trying to create a device that neutralizes Cow Methane - Cows farting and doing their buisness accounts for 50% of the C02 emissions, not a Pentium 4 
| Quote : what if AMD has a bullet proof foot? |
So AMD is superman now?
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