Intel --- Important ---

Hi everyone.

I have a AMD 4800+, ASUS A8N SLi 32, 4 GB Ram (CAS 2,5,3,3,7), XFX 7900 GT, 600W power supply.

Recently I bought a Intel Core 2 Extreme, ASUS P5B WiFi, 4 Patriot 1GB (CAS 4,4,4,12), XFX 7950, 600 W power supply, Same RAID 0 as the AMD with 2 150 MB WD 10000RPM. The X6800 was supposed to be much faster, right? But it is not.

If you try to apply the following filter, you will get the same timing:

--- In Photoshop, make a new RGB white bg 8x10 inches 300ppi document.
--- Open Filter, Noise, Add Noise and set to Uniform, Monochromatic, 400% and click OK.
--- Then open Filter, Blur, Radial Blur, set to Amount 100, Method Zoom, Quality Best
--- As you hit OK, start timing.

Try yourself on your computer, and you will see it is true. The AMD 4800+ is as fast as the Extreme. I updated both BIOS, the Windows XP Pro have both the latest SPs applied, the Photoshop are both the same (9.0.2).

Please do the test, and publish your result. Intel and some sites are trying to fools us all. I have done a lot of testing, and there is something that shoud be investigated.

Thank you



By the way, here are some timings:

P4 1.6 512 MB Ram Sony Vaio 5’ 06”
P4 2.4 512 MB Ram ASUS P4S800MX 2’ 49”
P4 3.06 512 MB Ram Intel 850 EMV2 1’ 40”
Sempron 3000+ 1 GB Ram Asus K8V-MX 1’ 34”
P4 3.2 1 GB Ram HP Notebook MB Quanta 1’ 13”
P4 3.4 2 GB Ram Intel 915 PCY 1’ 10”
AMD 3800 64 1 GB Ram Asus 1’ 10”
4600+ 4 GB Ram Asus A8N Premium 2.5/3/3/7 36”
Intel Core Duo 6700 OC 4 GB Ram Asus P5W 4/4/4/10 34”
4600+ 8% 4 GB Ram Asus A8N Premium 2.5/3/3/7 34”
4800+ 4 GB Ram Asus A8N Premium 2.5/3/3/7 34”
Intel Core Duo X6800 4 GB Ram Asus P5B Wifi 4/4/4/10 34”
4800+ 10% 4 GB Ram Asus A8N Premium 2.5/3/3/7 33”

Oh no!!!!IMPORTANT!!! You managed to find a test that K8 beats C2D at. Might as well sell the POS.

This reminds me of my Pentium 150... a friend of mine was bragging about his Cyrix 686 (in all fairness I bought one too) and how much faster it was... and at some tasks it WAS faster than comparable Pentiums... but... we played Quake... that was our obsession... and those Cyrix processors absolutely sucked at that due to their weak FPU.

I guess all I'm saying is that you should buy a processor that's best for what you actually do... if that guy wants to run some fancy filter in Photoshop for the rest of his life, buy the AMD. Doesn't hurt me.

Heh, thats true, buy what you need. If he only uses that one filter in photoshop, then whatever. I don't want other photoshop users clamoring to buy the AMD just because that one filter is the same speed...

Talking like that reminds me of politics... trying to dupe the unsuspecting layman...

Although it is flamebait, I must say that the author has presented maticulously prepared benchmarks for our review. He didn't just post up a poll that says "AMDZ or INSMELLS!?"

I welcome this thread as it challanges what we accept as "truth" by presenting facts.

You could have research some review about the cpu different performance across different applications first. Keep in mind that most members here that posts C2D performance results is mostly based on gaming. Overall C2D are still better cpus.

two photoshop benchs of an X6800 against a athlon 64 FX-62

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=430&model2=464&chart=187
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=430&model2=464&chart=186

Core 2 X6800 @3620MHz w/ 329MHz FSB
Photoshop v. 6.0.1
Windows 2000
DDR2-985 4-5-4-7

1 minute 7 seconds w/ single-channel RAM
34 seconds w/ dual-channel RAM

Looks to me like yet another case of memory-bandwidth limited benchmarking.

That's some good stuff. Evidence that is countrary to what Danica claims.Maybe C2D doesn't like Pr0n.

Apparently. **massive exodus to buy AMD now**

LMAO...true enough.

If they perform the same on these tests, chances are CPU is not the bottleneck.

Let me paraphrase this in car terms that you can understand:

"I bought a new Porsche, but on my way to work today it took me the SAME amount of time as it did in my friggin' TAURUS! This thing is a POS!"

WOW!



Congratualtions, you have posted the greatest BS of the month!

First of all, you said that you have two PCs and latter you are pulling out of your ass, 14 different configurations and numbers. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of reputable sites that have benchmarked a lot of K8 and C2 configurations and came to the conclusion: Core2 Duo at lower freqfency outperforms K8
for all versions of Photoshop, as well as for 95% of the software available on planet earth. For example:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu. [...] &chart=186





http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2 [...] ors/7.html



http://www.ixbt.com/cpu/images/int [...] esults.xls
http://www.digit-life.com/articles [...] e6600.html


http://www.clubic.com/article-3635 [...] 2-duo.html


http://www.chilehardware.com/review_200607137.html


http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] 00_13.html


http://techreport.com/reviews/2006 [...] ex.x?pg=10

Why do you expect that anyone with brain will take your 100% pure crap seriosly?!?

For Photoshop CS.2, the E6300 outperforms the 4800+, while the E6400 outperforms the FX-62. There is no match for the performance of the XE6800. Even the Pentium4 and Pentium EE for 50% of the tasks in Photoshop are perfroming better than the K8.

I am waiting for Opteron 175(A8N 5X 2GB DDR-500). After few days I will make your benchmark on my Opteron and on E6600(Asus P5B 2GB DDR2-667) and I will post the results on this thread if it is still alive.

Haha that was EXACTLY the point of my post! How did you figure it out?

Not really... First, i'd never buy a Porsche,and second...i don't get all horned up about good lookin' babes. I'm happily married, played the field...and now where i want to be in life. My crazy driving days are over as well, and that i'm still alive is a testamant to my driving skills/luck.

Yeah, this is such a "please flame me!" post! It's priceless though .

Not really... First, i'd never buy a Porsche,and second...i don't get all horned up about good lookin' babes. I'm happily married, played the field...and now where i want to be in life. My crazy driving days are over as well, and that i'm still alive is a testament to my driving skills/luck.
Drag racing is a skill? I thought it was a measure of how well you could drive straight.

@3lf
meh.Drag Racing?

Drag racing?

Speaking of drag racing, here's a Viper getting smoked with a Civic. It's a good analogy of an overclocked E6300 smoking just about every other cpu.

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=civic+vs+viper

Nice. Btw, I checked out the YouTube of your rig and my girl loved the song you played in the background.

Not really... First, i'd never buy a Porsche,and second...i don't get all horned up about good lookin' babes. I'm happily married, played the field...and now where i want to be in life. My crazy driving days are over as well, and that i'm still alive is a testament to my driving skills/luck.
Drag racing is a skill? I thought it was a measure of how well you could drive straight.

@3lf
meh.Drag Racing?
I thought it was you that said they we're a drag racer. My bad.

Not really... First, i'd never buy a Porsche,and second...i don't get all horned up about good lookin' babes. I'm happily married, played the field...and now where i want to be in life. My crazy driving days are over as well, and that i'm still alive is a testament to my driving skills/luck.
Drag racing is a skill? I thought it was a measure of how well you could drive straight.

@3lf
meh.Drag Racing?
I thought it was you that said they we're a drag racer. My bad.Yes, i've done lots of racing, and tons of drags... but some of the silly/crazy sh!t i tried when i was a teenager...i'm lucky to be in one piece. I did wipe out on my motorcycle at 18, and broke my ankle/foot in 5 places. Was nasty.Month in hospital.. Skin grafts, 2-1/2 inch woodscrew holding my foot to my leg. I've got many many stories for when i'm a grampa.

No, it's this terrible cold that I have.

Well, Techno and Trance is pretty much the only ones that work well with computer,electronics and other high-tech stuff on video. I was trying to use a Country song for it, I don't know what's the title but it's about a cowboy crying over his dog that got run over with his horse. Anyways it didn't go very well, so I got techno, trance, house, bass and drum and club mix, tracks from my DJ friend and use it.

Not bad, I take a lunch break, come back, and this thread is thoroughly jacked...

RB26DETT and 2JZ-GTE are some of the best enginers ever made... Japanese manufacturing FTW! (Kudos to anyone who knows what cars used these engines.. they're both godly and legendary)

I would've guessed Mazda Rotary's(Wankel), but i think the original RX-7 was a 1R 1.1L, then they upped it to ~1.3L. I give...what is it?