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I agree. Too bad there's no IDE on it. There's only a few Sata DVD/CD drives and most people just re-use thier old ones.

Maybe someone could enlighten me as i haven't read much on the 4x4. It does have 4 cores per CPU, right? So this MOBO will have 8 cores (4 per CPU)?

Also, can you use just 1 CPU on the mobo?



I'm thinking that dropping $1,000 - 1,500 per CPU ( 2-3k) is a hell of a lot more than most people even want to consider.

Reply to Synthetickiller

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DailyTech has obtained a couple of images of an upcoming motherboard for AMD’s 4x4 enthusiast platform. The motherboard is an ASUS L1N64-SLI WS powered by two NVIDIA nForce 680a MCPs. Two socket-1207 processors are supported with four memory slots—two slots per processor. With two nForce 680a MCPs the ASUS L1N64-SLI WS features 12 SATA 3.0 Gbps ports and one PATA for storage connectivity. There’s also an additional e.SATA port on the back I/O as well.



I believe there is a IDE connector... Can even see it in the photos... No Floppy drive though...

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I agree. Too bad there's no IDE on it. There's only a few Sata DVD/CD drives and most people just re-use thier old ones.

Maybe someone could enlighten me as i haven't read much on the 4x4. It does have 4 cores per CPU, right? So this MOBO will have 8 cores (4 per CPU)?

Also, can you use just 1 CPU on the mobo?



I'm thinking that dropping $1,000 - 1,500 per CPU ( 2-3k) is a hell of a lot more than most people even want to consider.



Initial 4x4 release will be 2x dual core (4 cores) and 4x graphics with an upgrade path to AMD's native 4 way procs later next year.

IMO this is going to be a waste.

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DailyTech has obtained a couple of images of an upcoming motherboard for AMD’s 4x4 enthusiast platform. The motherboard is an ASUS L1N64-SLI WS powered by two NVIDIA nForce 680a MCPs. Two socket-1207 processors are supported with four memory slots—two slots per processor. With two nForce 680a MCPs the ASUS L1N64-SLI WS features 12 SATA 3.0 Gbps ports and one PATA for storage connectivity. There’s also an additional e.SATA port on the back I/O as well.



I believe there is a IDE connector... Can even see it in the photos... No Floppy drive though...IDE is beside the 12 SATA ports, Floppy is along the bottom, below the PCI/PCIe slots. :)

Reply to 1Tanker

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Too bad there's no IDE on it.


I know it's been said but what is that blue thing next to (on the left for the people who still can't see it) the sata ports?

Reply to Dade_0182

Neat looking board. Someone will need to mount this in a refrigerator if they use all four video cards slots.

Reply to intelamduser

I just wish SATA optical drives would become more mainstream so we can finally put EIDE to bed.

As for 4x4, I believe the new FXs that will support it will be much cheaper than previous FXs at launch (around $500 as opposed to $1,000). I seriously doubt AMD would consciously make themselves noncompetitive, especially considering the hot water Core 2 has put them in, and the fact that they never enjoyed market share majority in the first place. AMD needs this bad, and they need to make it affordable enough to challenge, if not beat Kentsfield on price/performance.

Reply to djplanet

nice.. yeah its looks pretty tight.. but it looks cool

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it looks like a glorified dual proc server board, i know its much more then that, but still, come on amd! this is your answer to kentsfield? seriously?

Reply to apt403

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I agree. Too bad there's no IDE on it. There's only a few Sata DVD/CD drives and most people just re-use thier old ones.

Maybe someone could enlighten me as i haven't read much on the 4x4. It does have 4 cores per CPU, right? So this MOBO will have 8 cores (4 per CPU)?

Also, can you use just 1 CPU on the mobo?



I'm thinking that dropping $1,000 - 1,500 per CPU ( 2-3k) is a hell of a lot more than most people even want to consider.


Sorry, but only two cores per CPU.

Reply to shinigamiX

Folding anyone? :lol:

Reply to Dade_0182

I am pretty sure i am not the only one that sees a red x.

Reply to papi4baby

Lots of "duplicates" basically.

Reply to Dade_0182

Actually, there is a floppy connector and one PATA connection

The black floppy is beneath the fourth 16x PCI-E slot, The PATA is blue and next to the red SATA connections.

Overall, I hate to see how big of a PSU you would need for this!

Reply to runswindows95

I could have sworn I saw some of these pics like a month ago already. Anyhow :trophy: for me for 300 posts (wish I could have some more free time at work to push up the pace) :trophy:

Reply to Dade_0182

BaronMatrix:

$400 motherboard plus the need to buy two FX processors? This isn't going to be as cheap as you had speculated.

Yes, the introductory price is high and will go down, but the same can be said for Kentsfield.

Reply to TechnologyCoordinator

That's got to be the WORST 24 pin connector position EVER!

Hacing this big cable running between the 2 HSF....

I'd like to see it outfitted with 2 Tuniq Tower =)

Reply to Anonymous

Hey everyone, it looks to me like there is both a floppy and an IDE connector. Also, you won't need more than 4 ram slots with 8 CPU's and FLASH Sata hard drives. They're basically RAM themselves. This is obviously aimed at people wanting to build a powerful albiet very expensive system. AMD really jumped ship and I think is trying to foresee the future of computers....

But damn, with 4 PCI slots, all those sata drives, 8cores, 4 sticks of DDR2, watercooling....can you imagine how much freaking POWER this thing is gonna use??? 1kw is not going to be enough. I really hope it hasn't come to this.

Reply to RyanMicah

Eh, sorry I skim. Didn't notice your post. :-P I agree with you! Ahh, but if flash hard drives come into play, that should reduce the amount of energy used too. My guess is AMD knows a way to reduce CPU energy useage even more, and is trying to implement that into ATI cards.

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Eh, sorry I skim. Didn't notice your post. :-P I agree with you! Ahh, but if flash hard drives come into play, that should reduce the amount of energy used too. My guess is AMD knows a way to reduce CPU energy useage even more, and is trying to implement that into ATI cards.

eh...nobody(especially runswindows95) noticed my post. I guess i'll start posting in huge/red. I swear people do this to make themselves look smart, or just raise thier post count. :evil:

Reply to 1Tanker

When posts get too long I think most of us skip through to the end to give our two cents. :-P Which is kind of like the inheritance I got. My dad is still alive, but he gave me his two cents and kicked me out the door. =\

Reply to RyanMicah

All I care about is post count. /sarcasm off

I don't see this as a piece of technology that I will ever use. No fanboyism or anything like that, I just feel I would take a small performance hit to use a more conventional (and cheaper) alternative. Hopefully it is a short lived step in the ladder and AMD counters Intel with something more promising. I will save my final judgement until I see benchmarks, but it is going to have to dominate for me to even think about going this route for what I use a PC for.

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I agree with labbbby, first thing that struck me looking at that board was that it would be a pain in the back side to try and cable it all up properly especially from a power supply point of view.... Even more so if your using a case where the power suplly is kept at bottom instead of top i.e. p180.

Reply to viper84

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Eh, sorry I skim. Didn't notice your post. :-P I agree with you! Ahh, but if flash hard drives come into play, that should reduce the amount of energy used too. My guess is AMD knows a way to reduce CPU energy useage even more, and is trying to implement that into ATI cards.

eh...nobody(especially runswindows95) noticed my post. I guess i'll start posting in huge/red. I swear people do this to make themselves look smart, or just raise thier post count. :evil:
You say something Tanker?

Reply to dasickninja

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Maybe someone could enlighten me as i haven't read much on the 4x4. It does have 4 cores per CPU, right? So this MOBO will have 8 cores (4 per CPU)?.



I can't believe no one answered this guy's question... AMDs 4X4 is going to be a two processor setup with each processor containing two cores... for a total of 4 cores. This should compete with Intel's single quad-core CPU until AMDs has a true quad-core CPU (many would also argue that Intel's quad-core is in fact not a true quad-core CPU... but I'm not going down that road)

Basically, AMD is modifying (slightly) their FX line of dual core CPUs to work in multi-CPU configurations.

Reply to rodney_ws

Who´s Tanker?

Reply to Slobogob

I forget the "1" and the world stops. :P

Reply to dasickninja

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Eh, sorry I skim. Didn't notice your post. :-P I agree with you! Ahh, but if flash hard drives come into play, that should reduce the amount of energy used too. My guess is AMD knows a way to reduce CPU energy useage even more, and is trying to implement that into ATI cards.

eh...nobody(especially runswindows95) noticed my post. I guess i'll start posting in huge/red. I swear people do this to make themselves look smart, or just raise thier post count. :evil:
What?

Reply to shinigamiX

Yo Jack, I know it's a little late for this, but I meant ~$500 for ONE high end FX processor, for a total of $1,000 for a 4x4 setup. The FX-70, 72, and 74 should be binned and priced accordingly. The Wikipedia 4x4 article claims a pair will start "well under" $1,000. No way they would price two at only $500, they would never recover the R&D costs (not for a long time anyway). It would be a loss of Xbox proportions (Microsoft actually didn't break even on the Xbox until Halo 2 came out).

I know, I know, any sharikou/Inquirer yahoo could edit the wiki 8O , but hopefully someone can confirm this elsewhere, plus I think it's likely anyway.

Two more thoughts, will they put two FX's in one box? If so, will it be possible to run only one on a "normal" AMD board? Would this be a viable alternative to Conroe? Are my constant questions annoying? :D

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Eh, sorry I skim. Didn't notice your post. :-P I agree with you! Ahh, but if flash hard drives come into play, that should reduce the amount of energy used too. My guess is AMD knows a way to reduce CPU energy useage even more, and is trying to implement that into ATI cards.

eh...nobody(especially runswindows95) noticed my post. I guess i'll start posting in huge/red. I swear people do this to make themselves look smart, or just raise thier post count. :evil:
You say something Tanker?hehehe..in 41 years, i've actually gotten used to being ignored....i guess. :wink:

Reply to 1Tanker

Yet, if and only if that is your dog in your avatar, I never miss a post of yours because I love dogs and one of my three is much like your own.

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Yet, if and only if that is your dog in your avatar, I never miss a post of yours because I love dogs and one of my three is much like your own.

She(Daisy) is ~ 3 years old. German Shepherd/Australian Cattle Dog(Blue-Healer). Only ~ 40lbs., but the quickest dog i've ever seen for her size. She's a retard, and loads of fun. :P
PS. Also most humorous looking, as someone had cropped her tail(we rescued her).

Reply to 1Tanker
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That mobo is going to get plenty hot. There is very little room for a decent sized aftermarket cooler on the cpus (RAM getting in the way). Same goes with the GPUs. Maybe if you kept everything stock you could get away with this as long as you had excellent case cooling.

That being said, I can't wait to see somebody load this baby up (2 4-core cpus, 4 sticks of ram, 12 hds, 4 8800gtxs, etc) and water cool it. The cabling and tubing would be insane. Image with all of the sata connectors, sata power cables, 2 12v cables for each vid card... freaking insane!

Reply to gm0n3y

No way! I have been telling my girlfriend we need to get a Blue Heeler when we move in together. I have a German Shephard/We aren't sure, seems like a Husky (Lexi) and a Chocolate Lab (Daisy) and a Golden Retreiver/ Golden Lab (Bailey.)

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U.S. distributors claim the ASUS L1N64-SLI WS will have an MSRP of $480 without bundles, but the street price will probably be much less.


Considering the price of this..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131074
Something tells me 4x4 motherboards alone will be over $410.

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U.S. distributors claim the ASUS L1N64-SLI WS will have an MSRP of $480 without bundles, but the street price will probably be much less.


Considering the price of this..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131074
Something tells me 4x4 motherboards alone will be over $410.Notice that Baron Matrix is uncharacteristically absent from this thread?There aren't many threads about 4x4, that he doesn't chime in on, and i'm assuming that the suggested retail price of the mobo puts a lid on his insistance that the 4x4 mobo's will only be $200-$250. :D His wet-dream is turning out to be about a dog. 8O

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Hey i'm surprised no one noticed what the bottom right chipset said on the motherboard. How does VIA act with AMD? , because I know from personel experience, that i have all sorts of problems with a VIA chipset on Intel boards.

R Collins

Reply to kg4icg

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Maybe someone could enlighten me as i haven't read much on the 4x4. It does have 4 cores per CPU, right? So this MOBO will have 8 cores (4 per CPU)?.



I can't believe no one answered this guy's question... AMDs 4X4 is going to be a two processor setup with each processor containing two cores... for a total of 4 cores. This should compete with Intel's single quad-core CPU until AMDs has a true quad-core CPU (many would also argue that Intel's quad-core is in fact not a true quad-core CPU... but I'm not going down that road)

Basically, AMD is modifying (slightly) their FX line of dual core CPUs to work in multi-CPU configurations.

Thanks. I don't want to jump the gun and say I won't support AMD. I'll have to wait and see if hte benchmarks speak for themselves.

I find this puzzling. I own a system like this (dual opteron) and while its fun, its caused me a lot of troubles. I was hoping for a single socket solution (SSS, if no one's claimed the acronym, I will). Liquid cooling to CPUs isn't badn, just expensive. I don't really see a point in the pcie x4 slots. 2 video cards, raid card? Having four GPUs is the biggest waste of money and power.

Poor AMD, i remember then the thunderbird was bad ass and all the intel geeks hated me for owning one. I guess times change. Most likely, I'll get a c2d or c2q in 07.

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Hey i'm surprised no one noticed what the bottom right chipset said on the motherboard. How does VIA act with AMD? , because I know from personel experience, that i have all sorts of problems with a VIA chipset on Intel boards.

R Collins



VIA don't only make computer chipset. It is a VT630.. the firewire controller!

Reply to pat

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Eh, sorry I skim. Didn't notice your post. :-P I agree with you! Ahh, but if flash hard drives come into play, that should reduce the amount of energy used too. My guess is AMD knows a way to reduce CPU energy useage even more, and is trying to implement that into ATI cards.

eh...nobody(especially runswindows95) noticed my post. I guess i'll start posting in huge/red. I swear people do this to make themselves look smart, or just raise thier post count. :evil:

Is that how you got yours? Cuz I have yet to see anything but you whining that nobody reads your whiney posts...:-P Chalk that one up to my forum user status and post numbers. Yeah baby!

As for your post about there being a floppy and an IDE connector...I saw it, but didn't notice or give a $hit who it was. Still don't. I'm sorry, who are you? Nvm, I don't care. I pretty much was just agreeing with the fact that there were both, and I was skimming, so I saw it mentioned, but wasn't sure if it was a "yes there are" or if it someone just said "looks like there might be" This mobo is overloaded anyway, can't be a final design...it's too ridiculous. :-P

Reply to RyanMicah

I'm thinking of making a forum entitled, "Who thinks Ryan's ISP should be BANNED" and then I'm going to go ahead and tell everyone how I don't think I'd care. :-P

Reply to RyanMicah

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I'm thinking of making a forum entitled, "Who thinks Ryan's ISP should be BANNED" and then I'm going to go ahead and tell everyone how I don't think I'd care. :-P


You've earned the prestigious "Meh". Enjoy it.

Reply to dasickninja

So, who wants one of these mobo's for xmas? I'll hire someone to go steal them along with some 1.5 KW no, make that 2 KW(if you get those) for the 4 8800GTX's we're putting in there. I wonder if 2 will be enough...

Reply to Dade_0182
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Correct me or update me if I'm wrong on this, but so far from those two pictures I see 10 fan connectors.

8O

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