Is a $1000 Gaming Rig possible?
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I'm assuming it can be done if I go middle of the road and down. Any suggestions on parts to get a complete system (including monitor) for this price?
edit.....I am asking if this can be done or not as I'm not sure.
General Outline:
DVD Burner + 250GB SATA 3.0Gbps Hard Drive -> $100
Cheap Case + decent PSU -> $100
E6300 Core2Duo -> $180
Socket T Motherboard -> $70-$150
2GB 533Mhz DDR2 RAM -> $200
Midrange Graphics Card -> $200
19" LCD Monitor @1280x1024 -> $180
Basic keyboard/mouse/2.1 speakers -> $40
Total: $1150
Now that's above budget, but there are places to cut corners. Look for deals with rebates. For instance, the Antec Sonata II w/450W Smartpower Powersupply is only about $60 w/MIR right now. The eVGA GeForce 7900GS is only $165 after MIR. Maybe you don't need to overclock much, so you could go with a ~$70 motherboard and slightly cheaper RAM (or lower to 1GB if necessary). The point is, you can easily get this to $1000 and have a good, upgradeable mid-range gaming system. One thing to not overlook is shipping costs. You can easily spend $50 to ship the parts. It -might- be worth buying the heavy items (monitor, case, speakers) locally if it's cheaper than paying the shipping.
If you plan to overclock then you can't skimp as much on the mobo/ram and you'll also need a better cooling setup.
Sharky's does this about every 2 months so it is usually pretty up to date:
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/guide [...] hp/3633106
Here is a good bang-per-buck build I did recently for a buddy, wanted some OC potential so all he needs is a good CPU (and maybe GPU) heatsink when the stock ones can't cut it down the road...
Intel Core 2 Duo E63000 $182 shipped
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 $144 shipped
OCZ Gold 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 $235 shipped w/ $30 MIR
BFG GeForce 7950 GT 512M $270 w/ $10 MIR
COOLER MASTER Centurion RC-531-KKN1 $40 shipped
Sunbeam NUUO SUNNU550-US-BK 550W $84 shipped
SAMSUNG Black 18X DVD+/-RW $36 shipped
Seagate Barracuda ST3320620AS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB SATA 3.0Gb/s OEM $95 shipped
$1086 including shipping, w/ $40 in MIR
Hope it gives you some ideas, if you cripple the PSU / GPU / HDD you can easily budget in a monitor.
It's very easy to build a decent rig for under a $1000 EXCLUDING the peripherials (i.e. keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, an what else have you). At anything lower than about $650-$700 for the PC you begin to waste money due to the fact you'll be upgrading almost as soon as you get it built (I ain't kidding about this). I would say if you wanted the whole package it would cost around $1300 if you went tight, but you defenitly build a very decent system for right at $1500 including peripherials. I'm in school right now so I'll post a system later tonight that wil have everything in it that you want (links will be included). I'm not trying to sound like a rich kid or anything I'm just telling you that aiming for an upfront cost that low on the whole package just ain't a good idea. The more you spend upfront the longer/less you'll have to do/pay down the road for upgrades. If spend right around $2500 on the whole system you're pretty much set for the next 2-3 years with 4 on the outside before needing to upgrade/rebuild again.
Hopr this helps
>> Re: Is a $1000 Gaming Rig possible?
sure if you're into pacman and doom 1.
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Or if you're not a complete moron.
heck yes, i got my pc for 600 something.. and thats condisdering i got riped off with the case.
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I would cut down the graphics card to this. Saved money can go towards monitor/keyboard/mouse/speakers:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspag [...] 5072371459
Thanks so much everyone. This is all great information. I think I might wait a week or so and see if Sharky's comes out with a new Value Gaming PC buyers guide as the last one was in September. Great ideas and suggestions though, it's been a big help and given me something to chew on.
Here's another one:
Antec LifeStyle SONATA II Piano Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 ATX 12V V2.0 for AMD & Intel systems Power Supply - Retail
Model #: SONATA II
Item #: N82E16811129155
$99.99
MSI P965 Platinum Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: P965 Platinum
Item #: N82E16813130055
$134.99
POWERCOLOR X800GTO256MBDDR3 Radeon X800GTO 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: X800GTO256MBDDR3
Item #: N82E16814131007
$86.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6400 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6400
Item #: N82E16819115004
$222.99
A-DATA 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model ADQVE1A16K - Retail
Model #: ADQVE1A16K
Item #: N82E16820211066
$239.99
SONY Blue 1.44MB 3.5" External USB Floppy Drive Windows & MAC OS - OEM
Model #: MPF82E-U3/182
Item #: N82E16821103511
$20.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3250620AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3250620AS
Item #: N82E16822148144
$74.99
LITE-ON Combo Drive Black SATA Model SHC-52S7K-05 - OEM
Model #: SHC-52S7K-05
Item #: N82E16827106040
$29.99
TOTAL: $910.92
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You can ditch the floppy entirely or go for an internal, and you can drop back to 1GB of RAM; you did say the price needed to include the monitor. Hmmm, that's tough. Spartan made a good point that you might waste money needing near-immediate upgrades, like the GPU in the above example (and the PSU if you go DX10).
Ya'll are all going about this the wrong way.. here...
I got a friend who can sell you a Glock for a very decent price.
He'll even throw in a box of bullets for free if he likes you. Then, you find the richest nerdiest kid you know, and ask him, I'll trade you my uber cool gun for your geeky PC...
If he says yes, you get a nice PC... if he says no, you shoot him and take his PC anyways... win-win situation!
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Wow, Bestbuy actually has a good deal on their site. They are very inconsistant with their prices though as this BFG GeForce 6600 OC 512MB DDR2 PCI Express Graphics Card is the same price.
You only give the very best advice, Dough
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Why the hell didn't i think of that!
i recommend the Seagate 7200.10 Hard Drives, very fast and cheap also 350G for less than $100 and performs close to the WD raptors
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148140
the 7900 GS isn't as powerful as i thought mine would be, even over clocked
i believe the Sapphire XT1950Pro is around $200 and performs a little better, and with DX 10 around the corner, maybe even go with the EVGA 7900GS for $165 as mentioned earlier
buying a Core 2 duo 6300 + after market cooler, will give you slightly better speeds as a 6400 will with stock cooler, as THG recommends the E6400, its work the step up for the extra multiplier and the stock cooler OC's quite well
im still in the land of Dvd drive and 48x cd rom so no advice there
and memory, at least 2 gigs recommended
hope this helps
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What if the richest nerdiest kid takes your deal but then holds you up for the computer? Lose-lose situation...
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thats why you load it with blanks.
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thats why you load it with blanks.
Touche!
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thats why you load it with blanks.
Touche!
I prefer the "word" PWNED!
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thats why you load it with blanks.
Touche!
I prefer the "word" PWNED!
Now let's assume that the richest nerdiest kid in school is on this forum and then calls your bluff? Then what? pwned indeed!
Don't forget, you'll need an opperating system too. Budget another $80 at least. Look for one w/ the upgrade coupon for Vista.
Linux...
Little sad No comments about the BETTER cheaper computer. AMD. It's NOT the cpu that's a gamer computer, it's the VIDEO. Get a AMD computer saving well over $100US and invest it into the VIDEO. That would be the TRUE cheap gaming machine. Ignore Intel wanna be employees. Intel is if you don't really care how much you spend and need power for other applications (Not games).
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Examples?
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hhmmmm...(clears his throat) fanboi (cough*cough*cough*needs tylenol*coughs*)
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I thought this was supposed to be a gaming rig?
Yep, my bad...
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The performance advantage of an e6300 over an x2 3800 is well worth the 30 dollar premium. That is a fact shown in many benchmarks. On a side note, who gets a computer just to play games. The reason people get computers is because of the other applications.
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Don't forget the extra cost of the motherboard for that CPU over a 939. I do agree, however, that it's worth the stretch if at all possible.
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Someone making a "Gaming Rig".
To the OP- I got my comp (A64 3200, 1g ram, x800xl, gigabyte mb, dvdrw, 160gig, raidmax case/psu, floppy, win xp) for under $500 shipped off ebay one year ago when the x800xl was selling for $300 new. Half of the parts were new. If you invest some time, you can find some really good deals. I ended up making good money per hour off the time I spent shopping. If you want to game a lot, I also would lean more toward an AMD with stronger video- your CPU won't help much if you can only afford a 7600GT. Balancing the CPU, video, and upgradability of your MB will be tricky if you want to stay on budget. Next year, however, there will be a lot of new technologies, and maybe you can sell this comp for $500 and then get something really spiffy. PM me if you like; finding solutions is my specialty, though I'm not the techiest person on this forum.
I just remembered something- if you get an LCD monitor, it'll have a native resolution, probably 1280x1024 unless you get a widescreen. That means you need a video card that can run the games you want, at the details you want, at that resolution, since turning it down to 1024x768 just looks nasty. Most people here already know this, but if you happen to be new to LCDs, it's something to keep in mind. More reason to spend more on the video than CPU, IMHO.
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Sorry, there are decent socket T motherboards with Core2Duo support out-of-the-box for only $80. If this is strictly a budget gaming system, then he doesn't need all the bells and whistles of a high-end Socket T board.
Another problem is that your 939 solution does not have a feasible upgrade path for RAM/CPU. Atleast you could recommend AM2.
Well, I see there are Socket T MBs for less than $80, but I don't know much about the new chipsets, so let's start with that. Add in $183 for a 6300 and you're at $263.
Here is a DFI Lanparty with a 3400+ CPU. If you add in $10 for a cheapo HSF, it comes in at $205- a $58 savings.
Here is a Foxconn MB with a SiS chipset (I dunno anything about them) with the same 3400+ CPU and a 6200 video card for, with cheapo HSF and after MIR, $167- a $96 savings. The 6200 could be kept as spare, given as a present, or sold on eBay for at least $30. This would bring total savings to $126, give or take.
I'm sure there are better bargains to be had- I didn't spend a lot of time on this. And just because I link something doesn't mean I'm saying it's THE thing to buy. But when you're trying to get a solid gaming rig for cheap, you've gotta cut some corners...which corners they are depends on the individual. And my upgrade plan was listed- to sell the thing after a year when the prices from the upcoming new tasty stuff have come down to the realm of mortals (DX10, quad core, DDR3, Vista, etc). I just think right now is a poor time to grab the new gear if you're on a tight budget- we're right at the point where you pay a premium for new gear but also get to beta test it for the manufacturers. If anyone disagrees, please don't come behind me with a micrometer and a slide rule- make your own recommendation and let the OP make his own decision.
Oh, and if you're really only after games, remember the consoles. Remember that the PS3 has a Blu-Ray player, that the Wii has a new control design that no PC can match, and that the Xbox 360 is available NOW.
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