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Anonymous   11-24-2004 at 04:23:12 AM

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Cingular was busy with other priorities.

Laying off 7,000 employees, starting Jan 1.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.


<http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1293&e=2&u=/nm/20041123
/bs_nm/telecoms_cingular_dc&sid=95573419>

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fred   11-24-2004 at 04:23:13 AM
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Yoy failed to say the 7,000 is to be over an 18 month period.

Fred

"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jzwick3-FB0285.16231223112004@news1.east.earthlink.net...
> Cingular was busy with other priorities.
>
> Laying off 7,000 employees, starting Jan 1.
>
> HAPPY NEW YEAR.
>
>
> <http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1293&e=2&u=/nm/20041123
> /bs_nm/telecoms_cingular_dc&sid=95573419>

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Anonymous   11-24-2004 at 06:02:39 AM
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In <jzwick3-FB0285.16231223112004@news1.east.earthlink.net> on Tue, 23 Nov
2004 22:23:12 GMT, FUDMEISTER Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Cingular was busy with other priorities.
>
>Laying off 7,000 employees, starting Jan 1.
>
>HAPPY NEW YEAR.
>
><http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1293&e=2&u=/nm/20041123
>/bs_nm/telecoms_cingular_dc&sid=95573419>

It said "cut" (not "layoff" ) -- many cuts will probably come from attrition.
And you left out:

"Some job cuts will be in administrative functions, with customer facing
functions largely untouched," said Siegel.

So good (not bad) for Cingular. That's a big part of what the merger is all
about -- becoming more efficient.

In other words, just more of your usual FUD. Give it a rest and get a life.

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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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Anonymous   11-24-2004 at 06:50:37 AM
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In article <FCPod.3768$SA.1134@lakeread02>, "Fred" <fred@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Yoy failed to say the 7,000 is to be over an 18 month period.


You failed to say that analysts expect many more layoffs to be announced
over the next 18 months.

>
> Fred
>
> "Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:jzwick3-FB0285.16231223112004@news1.east.earthlink.net...
> > Cingular was busy with other priorities.
> >
> > Laying off 7,000 employees, starting Jan 1.
> >
> > HAPPY NEW YEAR.
> >
> >
> > <http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1293&e=2&u=/nm/20041123
> > /bs_nm/telecoms_cingular_dc&sid=95573419>

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Anonymous   11-24-2004 at 06:50:38 AM
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"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jzwick3-392E71.18503723112004@news1.east.earthlink.net...
> In article <FCPod.3768$SA.1134@lakeread02>, "Fred" <fred@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yoy failed to say the 7,000 is to be over an 18 month period.
>
>
> You failed to say that analysts expect many more layoffs to be announced
> over the next 18 months.
>
> >

You failed to say that these cuts were anticipated long before the merger
was complete. Imagine that.

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Anonymous   11-24-2004 at 04:23:13 AM
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"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jzwick3-FB0285.16231223112004@news1.east.earthlink.net...
> Cingular was busy with other priorities.
>
> Laying off 7,000 employees, starting Jan 1.
>
> HAPPY NEW YEAR.
>
>
> <http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1293&e=2&u=/nm/20041123
> /bs_nm/telecoms_cingular_dc&sid=95573419>

Funny- I don't see anything in the story to indicate that this delayed
anything. Care to point out where it says that?

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Anonymous   11-25-2004 at 01:17:45 AM
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In <jzwick3-392E71.18503723112004@news1.east.earthlink.net> on Wed, 24 Nov
2004 00:50:37 GMT, FUDMEISTER Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:

>In article <FCPod.3768$SA.1134@lakeread02>, "Fred" <fred@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Yoy failed to say the 7,000 is to be over an 18 month period.
>
>You failed to say that analysts expect many more layoffs to be announced
>over the next 18 months.

Good, but actually cuts, which can be attrition, early retirement, etc.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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Jer   11-25-2004 at 01:17:46 AM
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John Navas wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <jzwick3-392E71.18503723112004@news1.east.earthlink.net> on Wed, 24 Nov
> 2004 00:50:37 GMT, FUDMEISTER Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <FCPod.3768$SA.1134@lakeread02>, "Fred" <fred@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Yoy failed to say the 7,000 is to be over an 18 month period.
>>
>>You failed to say that analysts expect many more layoffs to be announced
>>over the next 18 months.
>
>
> Good, but actually cuts, which can be attrition, early retirement, etc.
>


I imagine a significant component of these 'outs' are due to job
duplication between Orange and Blue, which will take a year to settle
out like it did when Dingular was born.

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