Motherboard Chart

Tom's has charts for CPU's, Video Cards, etc.. Can we devise a method for a Motherboard chart??

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Man...have you ever think what kind of job they'll have to do to make mobos benchmark ?

Try this first :
How many chipsets maker are exists, have you ever try to count it ?
Intel, VIA, Nvidia, SiS and other chipsets.... and don't forget each manufacturers create different series of chipsets.

How many mobo's manufacturers exists ?
Abit, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, Biostar, Foxconn, ECS, Intel and other manufacturers... and don't forget each manufacturers create different mobos for the same chipsets but different facilities.

I don't say it can't be done. But if they do the bench, they'll never finish it.
And imagine how long will it be the result of the bench.

Reply to slicessoul

I think it can be done without benchmarking them directly. How about a separate chart for AMD and Intel boards, then within those charts separate sections for socket, chipset, price range, etc...

Then how they get ranked are by user rankings and official reviews to also include user reviews and submitted benchmark data.

Just some food for thought.

Reply to deafmetal

I agree with deafmetal.
having benchmarks isn't that high of a priority as to features.
if you want a MB that has 3 PCi slots, 2PCI-E16 and 1 PCI-E4 slot, 4 channel raid 5, it would be nice to do an easy feature lookup.
I have seen these feature search for motherboards before but they havn't been updated to reflect all teh newer boards... (sigh).

Reply to MadHacker

Mobo chart will be damn useful... all charts are damn useful, people process information a lot better when its right next to each other instead of spread out all over the place...

and best part is, we don't make the chart THG editors do... so as long as I don't do the work, a chart is very useful!

Reply to Doughbuy

Hehe, Ive made my own voltages chart for C2D...
But its not about benchmarking, since all the mobos with the same chipset are going to perform the same (give or take ~3% due to BIOS cheating). It would be about voltages and OCing capabilities, but tomshardware is a poor OCing site and they couldnt pull something like this off...
A Features chart would be more suitable for the site... lol

Reply to rwaritsdario

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Man...have you ever think what kind of job they'll have to do to make mobos benchmark ?

Try this first :
How many chipsets maker are exists, have you ever try to count it ?
Intel, VIA, Nvidia, SiS and other chipsets.... and don't forget each manufacturers create different series of chipsets.

How many mobo's manufacturers exists ?
Abit, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, Biostar, Foxconn, ECS, Intel and other manufacturers... and don't forget each manufacturers create different mobos for the same chipsets but different facilities.

I don't say it can't be done. But if they do the bench, they'll never finish it.
And imagine how long will it be the result of the bench.

I think its a wonderful idea. I would love to be able to see which mother boards are good and which are not. For instance I don't know much about how good my Mother board is.
hey could do it by
____________ VIA >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
_____________SIS>ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs. ______478=> NF >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
INTEL >
_____775=> VIA >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
___________SIS>ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
___________NF>ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.

____________VIA >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
____________SIS>ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
______939=> NF >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
AMD >
______AM2=> VIA >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
____________SIS>ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
____________NF >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
Now I know it would be a lot of work... BUT it would be a great help

Reply to melarcky

Yeah, a feature's chart would be damn useful, if we could select mobo's and just view options side by side... especially Bios options and how many SATA/IDE ports whatnot.

OC wise, I'll leave that up to the community for info..

Reply to Doughbuy

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I think its a wonderful idea. I would love to be able to see which mother boards are good and which are not. For instance I don't know much about how good my Mother board is.
hey could do it by
____________ VIA >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
_____________SIS>ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs. ______478=> NF >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
INTEL >
_____775=> VIA >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
___________SIS>ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
___________NF>ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.

____________VIA >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
____________SIS>ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
______939=> NF >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
AMD >
______AM2=> VIA >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
____________SIS>ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
____________NF >ASUS,GYGABITE,EPOX,ABIT,ALBATRON,ECS, Ecs.
Now I know it would be a lot of work... BUT it would be a great help

that would be good.. except for one thing... how is one MB better then another...
if your not overclocking... and only have 1 HD, 1 VideoCard and 1 DVDDrive.. how do you rate a good board... compared to if you want SLI and raid0 HD. the comparisons as to what is better will be very difficult to define.

my 2¢

Reply to MadHacker

Then in that case, you would want the cheapest mobo!

Right?

Reply to Doughbuy

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Then in that case, you would want the cheapest mobo!

Right?

possibly...
but different chip sets have different speeds as well...
SIS v.s. NFORCE.

Reply to MadHacker

Ah yes... what they need is a mobo chart where you can pick out specific mobos to compare at specific price ranges, specific chipsets, SLI or XFire, whatnot...

Charts are always helpful, especially for the visual people instead of the reading people.

Reply to Doughbuy

i think a there are some great ideas being expressed here, User reviews would be an excellent idea along with the the review THG all ready write.

Only, as mentioned the number of new m/bs being released would be differcult to keep ahead of. perhaps the users could also be a part of this.

I believe this could be a very helpful new addition to THG

Reply to JezNice

I'd really like a motherboard chart. I'm sure Tom's Hardware has considered it, but it does take a lot of effort.

On that subject: I'd much rather TH have more complete charts, like, for example, including the e6300 in the CPU charts.

Of course our lives would all be made easier by a "choose your hardware combination" chart, but I would laugh at the effort someone would go through to do that.

Reply to guruboy

Some great ideas going here!!

Reply to deafmetal

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Of course our lives would all be made easier by a "choose your hardware combination" chart, but I would laugh at the effort someone would go through to do that.

That is a great idea... All you would really have to do is combine the info from the VGA charts. And the CPU Charts and if they had a Mobo charts.... And combine the info into one chart... Yes the work to make a thing like that would be enourmus.But.... the results would be even larger .

Reply to melarcky

I don't think it would be come to unmanagable...
also someone doing this could be sponcered...
wouldn't it be nice to go through a build your system compatibility system. and then have a nice buy option from newegg...

Reply to MadHacker

yes and if Newegg and THW combined together for this... it would an amazing outcome.... but we can only hope that they do this.

Reply to melarcky

:idea: A fine idea.

Actually Tom Pabst and others used to do this whenever there was a new (enthusiast) board on the market, with some rather large (multi page) tables.

Performance would all be within 15% across the 'board' :lol:

However a chart with prices and all the base feature sets / 3rd party chipsets (and potential associated driver issues) would be quite useful IMHO.

Cheers,

Reply to TabrisDarkPeace

It sure would let someone compare apples to apples... Oh thats a new game I played yesterday. Very cool....

Reply to Cactusman

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Actually Tom Pabst and others used to do this whenever there was a new (enthusiast) board on the market, with some rather large (multi page) tables.

Performance would all be within 15% across the 'board'

Impressive info, thanks.

Reply to rwaritsdario

Well, how do we get this ball rolling?

Reply to deafmetal

Moderators, Jake_Barnes and Fredi are the two most accessible ones to this forumz.

Reply to rwaritsdario

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It sure would let someone compare apples to apples... Oh thats a new game I played yesterday. Very cool....

Lol that game is really fun. Played it a few times over the weekend with family. We didn't make it a drinking game as it was family and not all can drink, but I'm sure my friends and I will devise a way to make it into a fun drinking game.

Reply to tool_462

Since I am not yet in the market for a new motherboard, but want to get up to speed as a very astute consumer, I'm using Firefox and have tabs for each manufacturer of motherboards. Many of them, on their site, let you compare multiple models of their brand of board.

Now, I'm astute as far as the performance and features I want in a new computer. Because of that, I can filter ahead of time, first, the processor I want, which will determine the socket board, which then would boil down to which chipsets are available on that socket board. I can then load up on different tabs, reviews, sometimes on some sites, a whole series of boards using a particular processor, so I can see data on pros and cons of each board.

Going further, using the time I have available, I come to sites like this that review chipsets, graphics cards, processors and motherboards. I check out posting on forums concerning a board that might interest me. I also check out web vendors like New Egg and such to read the specs on boards with prices and user reviews. Parsing all that information in my head I start to lean toward a particular brand of board and investigate it more closely.

I would suggest that anyone who is contemplating getting a new board go through a research phase to filter out what you know you don't want. Then, when you have questions on a particular board, come to a site like this and look for a message thread that may already exist. The first mistake many people make is to come to the forum and post a question they have before checking to see if it was already answered in another thread.

I also see some other mistakes. Coming to a message board and asking opinions will get you that, opinions. You still have to determine if comments made by posters are helpful, unhelpful or inaccurate. Asking for a judgment on a particular board will get you varied responses as well. This may just confuse you more than clarify what you are trying to find out.

Obviously you are on the internet if you post a question here. You already have the capability to answer your question with a little looking around by yourself.

Reply to insightdriver

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