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Well Said.

well, that wasn't the point...the point was that both consoles and PC's are good for what they're for. Let's just leave it at that.

Hmm...ignorance. I'd call it ignorance to attribute respect based upon credentials, rather than character. You could discover the cure for aids yet still be an ass-hole -- I'd value the discovery, but the person may not deserve respect in one way or another.

Sure, I'll play along. It is common for people to look more "highly" upon those who get down to the nitty-gritty. I change my oil, replace my air filter occasionally and other "easy" auto tasks. I have built many computers and would only consider a pre-built if I were back in the market for a laptop. Still, my original fault with rwarits (or whatever his name is) was that he carried a highfalutin attitude. It seemed to me that he (in his mind) placed people in different categories based upon their PC technical savviness ... which is arrogance. I only meant to point out how stupid an attitiude that was. Being a nuclear physicist (for example) is something to said of, but putting together a PC is no more than assembling a lego space-ship. How ignorant is it to carry pride in that? Arrogant/Ignorant, those two words inter-twine in my wordings here.

Again, when I made the comment concerning the "better person" -- I was referring to something much deeper than specialization in a particular field or situation. Someone who is "better off" is patently different than someone who is simply a "better person."

Pah, I used to pay people to help me with my homework

All this talk about computers being as easy as a lego setup is so funny. I wish it was that easy then i wouldnt have to do it for about 10 people i know who have tried many times to try and figure it all out with only a handfull figureing out just enough to get the thing to turn on when they hit power. Some day they will get to that point but considering a mass majority cant even do it even after years of trying i would believe more it isnt there yet.

Actualy if i was going to compare legos with a system it would defanitly be a console i mean you plug it into the wall the tv the controlers and maybe a network and its done. I mean you could buy a prebuilt computer but who truly wants to have crap?

Yeah sure, if you dont mind it looking like you are conducting an orchestra while your gaming

you can get controlers as well. The wireless "remote" im sure will prove to be vary nice.

Yeah sure, if you dont mind it looking like you are conducting an orchestra while your gaming

lol, im looking foward to this orchestra game i saw one for wii...

I agree with whoever your replying to somewhat... my first PC build was quite easy, and not nearly as hard as many people made it sound. I also think the person your replying to clarified that its like legos to people that actually try to do these things, not the people that are totally shocked when they see a PC. I guess certain types of people find it easy, just like some people find legos easy.

Small beans meh.

No not noob's just simple minded people, that for the most part live aimless lives as players rarely holding positions of significance to society. Us computer gamer are more likely to be those who make a difference.

I really get tired of this argument over who is better console people or pc people. Now I myself fall in the pc catergory since the last console I owned was the N64 although my pc is about 5 or 6 years old as it stands now. But the main thing is consoles and pc are fundamentally different. If you want a box to only play games thena console is probally your best bet, but if you want a box that you can play games and surf the web etc then the pc is the way to go. Frankly the vast majority of people have pc's and consoles. Your choice of gaming rig bears little correlation to who you are only to the size of your wallet since a gaming pc to play current games at decent res is going to cost you more than any console by far. And I wouldn't be supised if there are some console player out there who could whip a pc gamer at some games (multiplayer online) that are on both systems although the pc does have the superior control scheme.

Edit: Rock on my 100th post I'm official now. 8)

Who said it was based on 'credentials'? But respect is earned for acts, and the act of building a PC earns respect in a hardware forum. Never having done that puts you at a dissadvantage for understanding the entire process. And when talking about hardware it's not a 'character issue' Mother Theresa wouldn't have been a respectable source of information on technology trends, and by the same extension being an a$$hole has nothing to do with either aspect. A$$holes build PCs, a$$holes buy pre-builts, respect as a PC enthusiast source is different than respect as a person. Do I respect Stephen Hawking as a model of morality? NO! Do I respect him and admire him for his command of physics and related mathematical sciences? Sure! But neither are related.

I agree with most of the rest of what you say, the thing to remember is that this thread involved some pretty far off generalities before that point and alot of people will reply to hyperbole with more hyperbole, so it's to be expected somewhat I think.

But it's not really about the 'better person' it's about the more credable argument about what's easier and if there is to be any valuation given, then definitely like I said I'd give it to the person who gets their hands dirty be it a console moder or DIY pc builder. It doesn't mean I want them to housesit or anything, it's just for specifically tech related stuff, I'd rather have Mother Theresa watch the house, although I'd be worried I'd come back and it'd be an orphanage or soup kitchen, so maybe get Stephen to watch the house.

What I meant by the PC being just as simple as a console was that anyone could go to Dell.com and buy their own gaming computer. And computer are cheaper, but a $465 computer from Cyberpower isn't too good gaming either.

I realize that you can use console controllers on PCs, and you are right, it is a BS point. I was just using other people's previous arguments into a long list to get to my final point. Those lines may or may not be my actual opinion.

I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear. My bad

I'm real late I know but just thought I'd add my 2 cents.

I see what your getting at but the car thing can be turned around as well. Some of you consollers do actually admit that the PC is superior but more expensive. Basically, you get what you pay for. You can have a Toyota Corrolla (360 or PS3) for cheap or shell out the extra Cash and buy a BMW M3 (High end PC that's better than the consoles) and pwn'em!!!!!!!!

I'm not going to say one is a better performer than the other cause that's just retarded, we all know the answer anyway. Let's say they are equal in performance, you still have way more that you can do on the pc.

Heck, we wouldn't even be on this forum if it wasn't for PC's.

Of course your BMW will probably break down before the Toyota, but then again you had more fun driving it and drove it to the limit.