Intel to announce "lightspeed" chip
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Is that what it looks like?
hmmm.. Do we get a light show when its under load? 
. o O (J/K!!)
Dooohhhh
Anyways, here's a link to Intel's paper on it:
http://www.intel.com/research/platform/sp/hybridlaser.htm
| Quote : The laser is compact so it allows many lasers to be integrated on a single chip. The first demonstration hybrid silicon laser is only ~800 microns long. Future generations will be significantly smaller.
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| Quote : With this highly integrated silicon photonic transceiver, it is possible to imagine a future world in which most computing devices are endowed with high–bandwidth optical connectivity. Be they servers, desktops, or smaller client devices, all devices will have access to substantially greater bandwidth at a lower cost.
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Kinda wonder if those chips could look like the core's in that movie "IRobot".
You know.. Vikki or Sunny. 
"My logic is undeniable."
Gah.. wouldn't the ram chips need that type of speed as well?
heh.. and GPU?
You think they might end up with... 50-100k rpm hds?
| Quote : Gah.. wouldn't the ram chips need that type of speed as well?
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Ever heard of holographic storage? 
Cheers!
| Quote : Gah.. wouldn't the ram chips need that type of speed as well?
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I could see fiberoptic RAM becoming an actuality. If they develop this process fully, then the GPU could be made the same way (If it isn't part of the CPU by then.)
| Quote : ]You think they might end up with... 50-100k rpm hds? |
Years ago, they were talking about holographic storage. Where you could have a cube, made up of transparent (to the eye) layers which would be read in 3d by a laser. I wonder if anyone's still working on this. :?
| Quote : Kinda wonder if those chips could look like the core's in that movie "IRobot".
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I was kinda hoping it would look more like the girl in Weird Science. 8)
| Quote : Gah.. wouldn't the ram chips need that type of speed as well?
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Ever heard of holographic storage?
Cheers!
Ooooh, snuck that one in while I was pontificating.....
| Quote : Ooooh, snuck that one in while I was pontificating..... |
it happens...
Amazing technology, "old" theory & dificult to implement. Anyway, it's my conviction it will be another major leap, sooner or later.
Cheers!
| Quote : You think they might end up with... 50-100k rpm hds? |
Ever heard of holographic storage?
Cheers!
Nope... I'm a simple guy. Only thing I do remember way back... was Holographic DVD, not even sure if thats out yet, but is it?
| Quote : Amazing technology, "old" theory & dificult to implement. Anyway, it's my conviction it will be another major leap, sooner or later.
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I hope it doesn't come too soon. My brain is getting full. I'm still trying to mentally process this:
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from a link Jack gave the other day, when I saw this "lightspeed" chip info. Now I'm reading the white paper on it. I don't think I could possibly pass up info on holographic storage - so smoke may begin pouring out my ears. 
I wish I could purge old info out of my head. I can remember word-for-word the theme from The Facts of Life, but I can't even remember the point I was going to make with this post. :?
I think optical computers will pave the way for quantum state computers. What comes after that I dont know... but at that time im pretty sure Doom 3 will run ok 
lol
Im just waiting for that vurtual reality chip. Then we can use it to create a hollodeck like in Star Trek the Next Generation. I would go in that sucker an never come out!
Exactly.. fiber optic switches.... They use it to transfer data through fiber optics, much better bandwidth then through copper and much lower latency.
Uhm, I think. Someone verify me on this
OHHHH YA... Gettin som on the holodeck 
schwing!
Something about coupling with light creates a slippery floor.
I'm such a geek....
| Quote : This is quite abit different than what Intel announced. Optical materials with the III-V's are child's play, silicon on the other hand is quite unique. Considering the processing challenges of III-V, integrating an optical interconnect technology into silicon, where standard processing is well characterized, would represent a hugely promising step forward for interconnect speed. It would make Hypertransport look like Humptytransvestite. |
Humptytransvestite? Is that a new cross-platform development?
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| Quote : Nope... I'm a simple guy. Only thing I do remember way back... was Holographic DVD, not even sure if thats out yet, but is it? |
No, as far as I know, it isn't out yet; again, AFAIK, there's nothing holographic-made, comercially available.
But, the physical/mechanical (Damn! And one'd think that mechanical parts would be out of the issue...) basics are pretty straightforward:
http://www.inphase-technologies.co [...] index.html
(slide show)
Intel (among others), is addressing silicon-based lasers (as JumpingJack mentioned), using the Raman effect, which looks very promising for Comms & interconnects, although silicon is nowhere near the best "light emitter", due to its chemical properties:
http://www.intel.com/research/platform/sp/
Holographic storage is another matter, although the basics are the same.
Well, simple guys are just like complex guys: It only matters what you do with the adjective.
Cheers!
| Quote : I hope it doesn't come too soon. My brain is getting full. I'm still trying to mentally process this:
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from a link Jack gave the other day, when I saw this "lightspeed" chip info. Now I'm reading the white paper on it. I don't think I could possibly pass up info on holographic storage - so smoke may begin pouring out my ears.
I wish I could purge old info out of my head. I can remember word-for-word the theme from The Facts of Life, but I can't even remember the point I was going to make with this post. :?
Yes, while the basics may be somewhat straightforward, when you go deeper into it (if you're interested, of course!), that's not simple from a non-technical stand-point; however, it's worth to take the time & try to grasp as much as possible; that's why I haven't gone through Jack's installments, yet; I haven't had the time to make a worthy attempt to pay it the due attention, make my own research & ask the pertinent questions.
You focused a very interesting & stressing point: There's so much info & data to digest, nowadays, that it's almost an Herculean task to keep up-to-date with some consistent, basic understanding. Very helpful "solution": try to keep (& improve, if possible) those elementary physical principles clean: after all, Physical laws & logic are universal.
Cheers!
| Quote : I think optical computers will pave the way for quantum state computers. What comes after that I dont know... but at that time im pretty sure Doom 3 will run ok |
Yes, photons would be the best qubit "substrate", concerning Quantum Computing (best universal speedsters, integer spin, massless & available...); but, they carry no charge at all; pretty difficult to control, then. Even with atoms/electrons, it's darn difficult to maintain quantum superposition for a reasonable amount of time, without disrupting it: and this, is the most fundamental quantum state in QC.
Cheers!
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But, still this is fascinating.
Yes, fascinating indeed.
There is a number of difficult to solve issues with holographic storage but, it's my conviction that its delayed implementation has a lot more to do with exhausting current storage technologies, up to a point where holographic storage will be pertinent... profit-wise. And, solid-state storage is popping up, right now.
(I wonder if our own hemoglobin - molecules in our blood red cells which bind oxygen atoms to its iron ones - could serve as ferroelectric molecules as well... joking! )
Cheers!
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Actualy I had heard something about some one useing blood on hard drives to store data so that joke isnt far off lol
I googled around and couldnt find a link but will keep looking but for now here is a link for a Blood powered fuel cell (Vampire laptop anyone ?)
http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/14 [...] -on-blood/
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Actualy I had heard something about some one useing blood on hard drives to store data so that joke isnt far off lol
I googled around and couldnt find a link but will keep looking but for now here is a link for a Blood powered fuel cell (Vampire laptop anyone ?)
http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/14 [...] -on-blood/
I was really joking! This is amazing, I only hope vitamin K3 (?) isn't toxic (in excess) and will be downloadable through next-gen fast & wide network interconnects! Vampire Laptop w/USB 10.0 syringe!
Cheers!
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Actualy I had heard something about some one useing blood on hard drives to store data so that joke isnt far off lol
I googled around and couldnt find a link but will keep looking but for now here is a link for a Blood powered fuel cell (Vampire laptop anyone ?)
http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/14 [...] -on-blood/
I was really joking! This is amazing, I only hope vitamin K3 (?) isn't toxic (in excess) and will be downloadable through next-gen fast & wide network interconnects! Vampire Laptop w/USB 10.0 syringe!
Cheers!
I dont know but the idea of being able to pull over in my car and pay some street person like 10$ to "recharge" my laptop sounds kinda cool lol
| Quote : here is a link for a Blood powered fuel cell |
Your avatar now begins to worry me. 8O
| Quote : here is a link for a Blood powered fuel cell |
Your avatar now begins to worry me. 8O
Yes they had the Matrix all wronge.... LOL
So maybe you could set up a quantum entanglement between two particles and then alter the phase of one (I would recomend microwaves) and if you observed the other it would repeat the variations... interesting lol Maybe when they became entangled a sort of mini black hole was created (at the plank level of course) and a white whole also perhaps in binary with the electrons going in and out so that they orbit both.... well it sounds fascinating Well enough of my sensless jabering for the day LOL
| Quote : So maybe you could set up a quantum entanglement between two particles and then alter the phase of one (I would recomend microwaves) and if you observed the other it would repeat the variations... interesting lol Maybe when they became entangled a sort of mini black hole was created (at the plank level of course) and a white whole also perhaps in binary with the electrons going in and out so that they orbit both.... well it sounds fascinating |
Good call with microwaves. 
We might have a problem with the mini Black Holes. This group is concerned that they may be unstoppable once created.
| Quote : No, really -- you just don't want to know this. There’s a remote, but extremely terrifying possibility our planet is about to be swallowed from within by a man-made black hole. In fact, our planet could be booby trapped with baby black holes already.
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| Quote : I suggest one finds a way to apply Bell's Theorem to networking.
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Seems there's a slight prob with the phase space, gents:
a. In 1983, Alain Aspect (et al) performed an experiment which concluded that, with a high but not absolute certainty!, Bell inequalities are violated (several experiments were performed since then, with the same results); so much for QM non-locality & hidden variables (http://perso.orange.fr/eric.chopin/epr/aspect.htm);
b. Planck's equation for the photon's energy E is: E=h*f, where h is Planck's constant & f, frequency. One of the most important consequences of Planck's work is that, a quantum (h) cannot exist as free energy in sub-multiples of itself (like 1/2h, 1/3h, 1/4h,... 1/nh) but, rather, in integer multiples of itself (h, 2h, 3h,... nh), its total energy depending upon frequency, as well. For a zero rest-mass particle like the photon (a quantum of light), its total energy (frequency dependent), cannot take the value of 1/2h*f, since there's no such thing as a half-photon;
c. The experiment referred in a. used photons as probes; we already know that there are no half-photons... and, according to the Special Theory of Relativity, no particle (even with zero rest-mass) can travell faster than the speed of light (as a matter of fact, only zero rest-mass particles can). So, even if any spooky action at a distance was/is to exist as a physical reality, it could never carry any faster-than-light information from point A to B without the faster-than-light 1/2h*f, that is, half a quantum, for instance.
Conclusion A: Quantum Mechanics is tougher to grasp than one could suppose (in the current case, see Entanglement);
Conclusion B: Your suggestion can be considered an entangled state between Bell's inequalities & networking (which has information transportation hidden in it); and, you cannot have half-Bell's inequalities ;
Finally, a disclaimer: This is a crude approach to the subject (QM) from another subjet (myself) whom's is not an expert... on both subjects!
Cheers!
| Quote : We might have a problem with the mini Black Holes. This group is concerned that they may be unstoppable once created. |
There's - really - no such danger (possibility should be more appropriate, since a black-hole doesn't have to be a danger...).
Gravity is about 10^34 times weaker (IIRC) than electromagnetism; even if the LHC (or other collider) could produce thousands per second, they would evaporate quite rapidly, as stated in the article, through Hawking radiation (that, would be dangerous!); secondly, there are very high density regions within our solar system (namely, at the Sun's core) & in its vicinity (other stars) which can achieve densities many orders of magnitude higher than any collider one can think of, for the next millenium (which would be different of taking advantage of an existing one; another matter, altogether).
Lastly, even an ordinary particle can be considered a B-H (just imagine 0.511MeV - Mega electron Volts - in a point-like particle: an electron or positron!); it can do a lot of harm but, surely, it cannot eat you!
Cheers!
| Quote : a. In 1983, Alain Aspect (et al) performed an experiment which concluded that, with a high but not absolute certainty!, Bell inequalities are violated (several experiments were performed since then, with the same results); so much for QM non-locality & hidden variables (http://perso.orange.fr/eric.chopin/epr/aspect.htm);
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Thanks for sharing this. While the suggestion of Bell's Theorem was tongue-in-cheek, I never heard of anyone refuting it. I've always heard it referred to as a "quantum anomoly" or "voodoo". I do appreciate this info.
| Quote : Finally, a disclaimer: This is a crude approach to the subject (QM) from another subjet (myself) whom's is not an expert... on both subjects! |
Is anyone truly an expert on QM?
Those who don't know QM think they don't understand it, while those who know QM know they don't understand it. :?
| Quote : We might have a problem with the mini Black Holes. This group is concerned that they may be unstoppable once created. |
There's - really - no such danger (possibility should be more appropriate, since a black-hole doesn't have to be a danger...).
Gravity is about 10^34 times weaker (IIRC) than electromagnetism; even if the LHC (or other collider) could produce thousands per second, they would evaporate quite rapidly, as stated in the article, through Hawking radiation (that, would be dangerous!); secondly, there are very high density regions within our solar system (namely, at the Sun's core) & in its vicinity (other stars) which can achieve densities many orders of magnitude higher than any collider one can think of, for the next millenium (which would be different of taking advantage of an existing one; another matter, altogether).
Lastly, even an ordinary particle can be considered a B-H (just imagine 0.511MeV - Mega electron Volts - in a point-like particle: an electron or positron!);
While I do respect the efforts of those concerned with possible outcomes of scientific research - I find it quite refreshing to see FUD spreading outside of this forum:
| Quote : Our goal is to prevent, and also make plans on surviving when possible, particle accelerator mishaps including quantum vacuum collapse, mining the quantum vacuum, formation of a stable stranglet, and the creation of artificial mini-black holes. |
http://lifeboat.com/ex/particle.accelerator.shield
| Quote : it can do a lot of harm but, surely, it cannot eat you! |
Get in my belly!!!
Sorry, for some reason that last line brought an image of Fat Bastard from Austin Powers into my head.
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(hope you're not writing from the inside!)
Cheers!
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although QM vs Experiment do match (approx.).
Again, Alain Aspect's experiment factually states that, if you measure photon A spin here, you know what the outcome will be, there, with photon B spin.
Cheers!
At the risk of a complete dehibilitating brain aneurysm, could this be validating the pan-dimensionsal aspect of String Theory?
Non-local or faster-than-light would not apply if two points that are miles apart in the third dimension - may occupy the same space in the, say, seventh dimesion.
For a visual: Take a 12 inch strip of paper, and put a dot on each end. Fold the paper back on itself so the dots are back-to-back. In two-dimensional space, the dots are 12 inches apart, but in three-dimensional space, they are occupying the same point.
| Quote : Gravity is about 10^34 times weaker (IIRC) than electromagnetism |
There is also a theory that Gravity is the same strength as Electromagnetism. Gravity exists in all dimensions, thereby "dilluted", while the other forces are "dimension localised".
As you can tell, I'm no expert on QM or String Theory. I'm in this for the intense headaches processing all this information causes. I believe this is called sado-mathisism.
P.S. Don't feel obligated to reply. I know your time is valuable, and I appreciate the input you've already shared. I'm just speculating while watching the Notre Dame football game.
(Since you're European:
football = American football
Notre Dame = famous University in South Bend, Indiana - so famous that they named a Cathedral after it in Paris
I have no association with Notre Dame, other than it looks like they are going to lose me $50 )
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