"APPLE Finally Goes With AMD"
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OK. We have Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest (and Apple) selling AMD systems. It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. 8)
| Quote : At the end of this year, AMD will close a deal that will have Apple buying AMD chips for the first time.
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http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/08/apple_finally_g.html
*sighs* Getting our news from blogs now are we?
At least The Inq. puts up the facade that their a reputable news site.
Seriously man, you're sinking to new lows.
A link from somewhere other than the Inquirer. WOW.
| Quote : OK. We have Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest (and Apple) selling AMD systems. It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. 8)
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http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/08/apple_finally_g.html
It's a blogsite for Tom Yager, he's notoriously anti Intel much like MMM.
| Quote : What's the point? Intel still will have more than AMD. |
Once AMD gets 30% of the market, there will be no way intel can recover that again. All I want is AMD to capture 40-50% market share and trust me that we'll never see top-end processors costing more than $700 u.s and then that day I'll give a damn about AMD or intel.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en& [...] =AMD+Apple
1. Above link only comes up with one article about Apple using AMD's chips.
2. The article is from a "weblog" aka "blog".
3. Blog's are not news outlets, they are opinion outlets.
4. If this were true it would be all over the media, not just some worthless blog.
9-Inch, please don't post b***s*** like this.
| Quote : Once AMD gets 30% of the market, there will be no way intel can recover that again. All I want is AMD to capture 40-50% market share and trust me that we'll never see top-end processors costing more than $700 u.s and then that day I'll give a damn about AMD or intel. |
9-Inch is right about Intel having trouble with AMD gaining market share. Intel will have a lot of excess capacity if AMD continues to gain.
Also, imagine if AMD had more revenues to invest into R&D. Their products would become even more sophisticated.
Wow nice pile of b***s*** - Like apple is gonna drop Intel after promoting all this marketing about switching to intel chips. BWAHAHAHAHA - gonna have to don my M.O.P.P-4 Gear to wade through this crap.
| Quote : OK. We have Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest (and Apple) selling AMD systems. It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. 8)
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http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/08/apple_finally_g.html
i'm very curious. what do you usually do during your normal days? just sit in front of your computer and search the entire internet for AMD's good news?
get a life
| Quote : Wow nice pile of ******** - Like apple is gonna drop Intel after promoting all this marketing about switching to intel chips. BWAHAHAHAHA - gonna have to don my M.O.P.P-4 Gear to wade through this crap. |
lol
Apple shouldn't drop Intel. However, they should do the Dell thing and start working with both companies. Don't limit yourself to one supplier.
| Quote : OK. We have Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest (and Apple) selling AMD systems. It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. 8)
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http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/08/apple_finally_g.html
i'm very curious. what do you usually do during your normal days? just sit in front of your computer and search the entire internet for AMD's good news?
get a life
This is where your mistaken. This IS his life. He has nothing better to do that search the internet for all kinds of ******** about AMD ruling the world and such. If you look all his posts are usually just 1 post by him with some bullshit about AMD. He never defends them for the most part and now he is using blogs to get his news. I think i will go write a blog right now about AMD announcing a Hexcore CPU with 2GB cache that uses 4 watts of power. 9-inch does these posts for one thing only, he loves to see people all fired up and argue. He is a totally helpless and worthless edited.
| Quote : It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. |
What's the point? Intel still will have more than AMD.
BTW, Dell, Apple are morons, they get AMD now that Conroe is better.
on the other side, they used intel during all the time that amd was better... even more morons
| Quote : Wow nice pile of bullshit - Like apple is gonna drop Intel after promoting all this marketing about switching to intel chips. BWAHAHAHAHA - gonna have to don my M.O.P.P-4 Gear to wade through this crap. |
lol
Apple shouldn't drop Intel. However, they should do the Dell thing and start working with both companies. Don't limit yourself to one supplier.
Especially since:
a) the 32 bit setups are essentially interchangable
b) you could actually use the 64-bitness of AMD's fully due to OS design better lending itself to 64 bit computing than some windows hackjob (re: XP-64)
c) you will be able to get a fully integrated solution from one company
in regards to b), IMO they really should have started with AMD and added intel later. Its not like it is a huge volume market and they NEEDED intel due to supply issues (like Dell).
Good to see AMD starting to gain ground. Maybe the two will play off each other more and result in better products.
The name 9inch always gets me. Good thing 9inch is push for AMD and not for me. 8O
| Quote : Wow nice pile of bullshit - Like apple is gonna drop Intel after promoting all this marketing about switching to intel chips. BWAHAHAHAHA - gonna have to don my M.O.P.P-4 Gear to wade through this crap. |
lol
Apple shouldn't drop Intel. However, they should do the Dell thing and start working with both companies. Don't limit yourself to one supplier.
Especially since:
a) the 32 bit setups are essentially interchangable
b) you could actually use the 64-bitness of AMD's fully due to OS design better lending itself to 64 bit computing than some windows hackjob (re: XP-64)
c) you will be able to get a fully integrated solution from one company
in regards to b), IMO they really should have started with AMD and added intel later. Its not like it is a huge volume market and they NEEDED intel due to supply issues (like Dell).
Apple could benefit from amd's price cuts and those low power turions for instance.
regarding c) it could be some kind of centrino, but with graphics instead of wireless and chipset.
| Quote : It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. |
What's the point? Intel still will have more than AMD.
I think this is the point:
As consumers, we all should be thankful for a strong and viable AMD. They have-
1. Kept Intel honest
2. Pushed the "state of the art"
3. Kept prices low
4. And finally, given everyone on these forums, something to talk about!
Let's all hope AMD stays strong in the market place. If they do we'll all benefit.
| Quote : BTW, Dell, Apple are morons, they get AMD now that Conroe is better. |
lmao, how true.....
I'm worried now. Its been almost a whole page of comments, and ActionMan hasnt shown up to deliver his usual derogatory one-liner.
Its the end of the forum as we know it!
QUICK EVERYBODY GOTO www.intelsux.fanboyblog.com. I got breaking news on this blog, that i just started. by the way, i am 12 and so excited to write about my favorite processor. i think AMD will soon buy Apple and Intel and then the White House. OMG i'd be so happy. so please go to my new blog and read all about it.
and before i get flamed by some retard.... read: sarcasm
| Quote : It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. |
What's the point? Intel still will have more than AMD.
BTW, Dell, Apple are morons, they get AMD now that Conroe is better.
on the other side, they used intel during all the time that amd was better... even more morons
I always said that Macs are for girls... And morons, obviously.
(Look at Steve Jobs, and how he got screwed by Bill Gates.
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"AMD Inside" <----
:lol:
I've got to photoshop THAT! :lol:
| Quote : OK. We have Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest (and Apple) selling AMD systems. It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. 8)
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http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/08/apple_finally_g.html
One link for you 9 inch
http://video.google.com/videoplay? [...] pple+kills
| Quote : OK. We have Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest (and Apple) selling AMD systems. It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. 8)
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http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/08/apple_finally_g.html
One link for you 9 inch
http://video.google.com/videoplay? [...] pple+kills
i saw this months ago, but its still hilarious
| Quote : OK. We have Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest (and Apple) selling AMD systems. It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. 8)
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http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/08/apple_finally_g.html
One link for you 9 inch
http://video.google.com/videoplay? [...] pple+kills
i saw this months ago, but its still hilarious
Yah, its like 3 years old, but I still get a laugh out it
Peace
| Quote : One link for you 9 inch
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You could say that guy hates Macs...
| Quote : One link for you 9 inch
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You could say that guy hates Macs...
I dunno, I think he was holding something back. Maybe he should make another video and just let it all out
Peace
good for amd... good for us ... especially those who works with professional design software from ADOBE and stuff....
I really don´t know why u people love to talk ´bout "AMD x Intel" in every single post....
Hey Jake Mod,
If 9nm can not find time to come back to his own OP threads please lock immediately!!!
If he is not intent on doing anything with the thread other than posting it he should be locked/banned....
| Quote : Hey Jake Mod,
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No! No!
How I'm supposed to laugh after he gets banned?
| Quote : good for amd... good for us ... especially those who works with professional design software from ADOBE and stuff.... |
Ya seriously, whatever moves market change in our favor is good. I'd buy a mac now if they'd just update adobe's software for macintel, or macamd for that matter. Besides the most immediate thing this articale talks about is the fact that AMD owns ATI and will continue to put ATI gpu's in MacIntels. What will INTEL do? Will they care? This writter says wait till August 7th so we'll see perhaps.
| Quote : really don´t know why u people love to talk ´bout "AMD x Intel" in every single post.... |
I've been monitoring the posts on this site for the past couple weeks and it's gotten quite dry. Content isn't the problem I'm talking about, it's posts that do little to add to a conversation like "FAIL" which is about the dumbest thing I've seen. I'm sure it's fun for you in your little playground here. Granted you all like to poke fun at 9inch and Baron because they seem to overstate a biased clip of info. I may agree with you that it's annoying but move on with your life. bickering like old men mocking them with one liners does nothing to add to a conversation and undermines this forums usefullness. Despite this article really saying nothing concrete and being pro–amd it does bring up a good question. what will happen? There's nothing wrong with talking about what ifs? and what have yous?
99% of you jerkoffs disagree with 9-inch for no other reason then because he is the thread starter. And you accuse him of having no life? Bunch of fucktards.
| Quote : 99% of you jerkoffs disagree with 9-inch for no other reason then because he is the thread starter. And you accuse him of having no life? Bunch of ******. |
Moo.
It's OK MMM We Will Try And Forget You!
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brain dead.
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brain dead.
Moo.
You Bet MMM!
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So that makes 1 AMD fanboy (not a bad thing) vs. 10,000 IQ challenged dick sucking 10 year old Intel fanboys.
| Quote : Meaning, you're defending him, so you're a bigger n00b, and fanboy |
Meaning you're the cheerleader of the 10 year old and under Intel fanboy club.
I see your intelligence just oozing from your first small number of posts here on THG.
You jump in violating rules of the forums and protecting a guy, who provides NO accurate information EVER. Very slick of you sir/ma'am.
9-inch has a very well defined history of dumping threads with no known facts and then retreating when confronted with the facts.
Thanks for your contribution and your last post has been reported!
Have a nice day and welcome to the forums.
| Quote : He's been like that all the time, only anit-Intel BS he's posting.
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Really? Well this is what he posted in this thread:
| Quote : OK. We have Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest (and Apple) selling AMD systems. It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. |
You call that anti-Intel BS? Looks more like a probable scenario to me. Many, many respected people on different forums have pretty much said the same thing, AMD is poised to gain even more market share.
Unless you think you know better than Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest, Cray etc. etc.
| Quote : on the other side, they used intel during all the time that amd was better... even more morons |
Why do people insist on making comments about things they know nothing about? Apple did not use Intel at all before this year. They used IBM Power PC processors. Talk about morons.
| Quote : Unless you think you know better than Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest, Cray etc. etc. |
What does someone "knowing better" than all those companies have to do with the probable outcome of marketshare? I do happen to agree with you on this point (AMD hitting a 30% marketshare), but your last comment is somewhat unintelligent.
Sorry in advance if I offend.
Hey I appreciate the person that wants to stay and defend their position...
Trying to do it in the confines of the rules of these forums is the best way to do it.
Glad to see a reasonable post from ya.
AMD is poised to take market share if they can actually provide the number of chips that would require before the Conroe/Woodcrest/Merom processor roll out goes into full swing.
Having IBM/HP in their corner as the major Blade providers is a very good plus. They obviously are not going to abandon the Opteron line for Woodcrest until the clamoring is loud enough.
| Quote : He's been like that all the time, only anit-Intel BS he's posting.
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Really? Well this is what he posted in this thread:
| Quote : OK. We have Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest (and Apple) selling AMD systems. It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. |
You call that anti-Intel BS? Looks more like a probable scenario to me. Many, many respected people on different forums have pretty much said the same thing, AMD is poised to gain even more market share.
Unless you think you know better than Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest, Cray etc. etc.
Dude, they have AMD chips in their production line for more variety and AMD chips did pretty well too before C2D. That doesnt mean that intel chips gonna be disappeared from the face of this planet. C2D is still too early (1 week released, not mainstream until Mid August) to help Intel to win yet, but who knows what happen after 6 months?
Just a quick comment:
Stealing marketshare from a company like Intel is a long, arduous process. Doing so takes many, many years. And often competitors like AMD will lose market share and only to regain it 2-3 years later. The key to keeping market share (IMO) is shortening your product cycle. Intel has shown time and time again that when it's significantly threatened in marketshare, it goes all out to get it back. Northwood and Core 2 Duo are prime examples of this.
What worries me with AMD is it's relatively long product cycle compared to Intel's. Intel is capable of pumping out a new chip every 6-8 months while AMD usually takes about 12 months. It may not be much, but it's enough time to lose 1-2% in market share. AMD will never be able to sustain significant marketshare unless it figures out how to shorten its product cycle so that's it's more in line with Intel's.
Firstly, my "attack" on Intel fanboyism around here is justified. I have not been on these forums long enough to know exactly what is going on, and to know many of the members. But the # of people knocking down posts ONLY because it has some positive spin for AMD is downright stupid.
And making single word posts like "word" et al doesn't help. It's easy to get the impression that most of the members here are 10 year old know-nothings that think Microsoft invented the operating system. Jebus this has to be the worst forum around when it comes to blind fanboyisms and stupidity.
Anyway, here's a thought to ponder. Considering Intel is most certainly having "issues" with 65nm yields, it may very well end up that by the end of the year AMD will have a higher % volume production of the 65nm node than Intel. Don't laugh, this could happen. Yes, Core2 (damn I hate that name) is a great chip, but no matter how good it is, if Intel can't replace their Netburst production with Core2 production in a timely manner, they are in serious trouble.
You really have to wonder why the likes of Dell are going with AMD now, in light of Core2. But perhaps Dell knows something we don't.
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Agreed. And the same can be said about losing market share. It takes time. Core2 and Woodcrest are not going to cause AMD's share numbers to take a hit overnight.
| Quote : Intel is capable of pumping out a new chip every 6-8 months while AMD usually takes about 12 months. |
Where do you come up with this number? 6-8 months? When has Intel been putting out a new chip ever 6-8 months? Like what? Hell, it took Intel nearly 4 years to counter AMD64 products. (and don't forget, Intel told us 64 bit on the desktop was not even needed)
Intel sure thinks 64 bit computing is important now:
http://www.intel.com/business/technologies/64-bit.htm
Oh by the way IBM still sells servers with the xeon and the new woodcrest based xeon 5100 series..
So it is not an "all or nothing" proposition for IBM.
| Quote : He's been like that all the time, only anit-Intel BS he's posting.
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Really? Well this is what he posted in this thread:
| Quote : OK. We have Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest (and Apple) selling AMD systems. It's a matter of fact that AMD will achieve their goal of 30% market share sooner than later. |
You call that anti-Intel BS? Looks more like a probable scenario to me. Many, many respected people on different forums have pretty much said the same thing, AMD is poised to gain even more market share.
Unless you think you know better than Acer, HP, IBM, SUN, Dell, Voodoo, Alienware, Falcon NorthWest, Cray etc. etc.
I've been following the Alienware,Voodoo,Falcon Northwest, sites for
quite some time. I currently, have alienware laptop. These sites
are now jumping on the Intel bandwagon. They have to, they build
performance gaming PCs. There are some sites like Overdrive PC,
that got rid of there Intel line a couple years ago, Guess what?
All they hear now, is conroe! conroe! How fast can you overclock a
conroe.
I've just checked in with my psychic. She tells me that in the very near future I will hear the click of a lock, and see the image of JumpingJack's counter roll over to number 32.
If you figure intel going from Pentium D, to Core Duo (yonah), to Core Duo 2 (Conroe), those are all less than 12 months product cycles. Sorry, I am factoring in mobile technologies. Should have clarified.
Please provide content on your yield comment.. As nobody here has any inside information as to the yields of the 65nm process for anyone let alone the current release of the Core 2 Duo.
What we do have is a launch roadmap that has FOR THIS RELEASE been accurate so far, with a 40% ramp being made by the end of the year.
Also, Dell did pick up the AMD product line. But, do you see it as their mainstream product? Maybe you should take a look at Dells offerings and see who they are championing, it most certainly NOT AMD. Please reference their high end release product in the gaming market the XPS 700 with the Core 2 Duo processor.
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