Looking for a quiet, high performance, SLI power supply
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Hello, I am currently looking for a high performance, but quiet power supply, that can handle SLI.
My current rig is:
Core Components:
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
eVGA Geforce 7800 GTX (In SLI)
OCZ Titanium 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory (2-3-2-5)
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+
Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS (WDM)
Storage Components:
1x Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ 3Gb/s ST160827AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
2x Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200KS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (RAID 0)
I have done a bit of research, and found two viable power supplies.
I am wondering, from all you experienced folk, if these power supplies are good and (importantly
) quiet?
SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V 600W Power Supply 100 - 240V UL, CE, CB, FCC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817151025
ENERMAX Liberty ELT620AWT ATX12V 620W Power Supply 90V~265V (Auto Adjusted) UL, cUL, TUV, CB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817194004
However, I noticed the enermax has "Yes" for SLI support, but the seasonic has a "NVIDIA SLI Certified", does that mean the enermax is not SLI certified? I also have read reviews in both power supplies that it's either good, or DOA/explosions.
My budget for this power supply is a little bit more loose than usual, about 250 (USD) Max.
Thanks all
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I recommend the Seasonic S12 600. I personally have the S12 500 and it is very quiet. In fact, I can hear other components of my PC, but not the Seasonic S12 unless I really concentrate.
Go for the OCZ Game X stream PSU.
I heard the PC Power and Cooling PSUs are the best on the market. A friend of mine has this PSU, and it's quite loud. Is it possible to take the cover off the psu, and replace the fan with a case fan that is quieter? Or is the airflow needed for safe operation? If so, am I able to put 2 fans to faciliate airflow across the parts inside this PSU, keeping the sound to a minimum?
just to clarify, 2 fans meaning one in the back sucking air out, and one on the front, sucking air in.
Thanks for the replies too.
SILVERSTONE SST-ST60F
I have the SeaSonic S12 600w in SLI and it works great AND sileint as far as PSU's go.
CErtified means that it has been ACCEPTED by NVIDIA as a power supply that will meet the power needs of a puter with SLI as well as other peripherals
Heres what I got and YOU tell me if I the 600 W is good enough
HOpe this helps bro
RIG specs
Antec P180 PerformanceSeries Mid-Tower Case
SeaSonic S12 600 watt power supply
Asus A8N32 SLI mobo AMD N-Force 4 SLIX16 (bios 1103 V02.58)
RealTek 97 onboard digital 5.1 Surround
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Toledo Core, 2 X 1mb L2 cache (AMD driver 1.3.1.0 w/MS hotfix)
2 gigs of Corsair TwinX3500LL Pro @ 437Mhz 2-3-2-6-1T
2- BFG Tech 7900 GT OC 256mb in SLI (nvidia driver 91.31)
Western Digital RAPTOR 74.3 gig 10-K rpm HDD for XP & Apps
Maxtor SATA II 250 G HDD for gaming, movies, MP3's
Maxtor SATA II 250 G HDD for document backup (unplugged)
Sony CD rom 52X
Plextor 708-A DVD/CD rom
Logitech Z-5500 digital 5.1 THX Surround 500watts
For you the most important thing is to pay attention to the amps of whatever psu that you decide on. With the flexibility that you have deciding on your choice of psus you want to make sure that you get something that will handle the load of an sli rig. People don't look at amperage as often as they should but it is much more important than volts or watts.
You could get an EX Duro 900 watt PSU but it has a low amperage. Fortron Source PSUs have a good rep but they are woefully underamped for highend and high demand systems (especially if you overclock).
Coolmax, Silverstone, Enermax, Seasonic, OCZ and PC P&C are the PSU companies that produce good, solid, stable high wattage and high amped units and you couldn't go wrong with any of them.
Here's a review of highend PSUs that should give you some help:
http://www.bytesizedreviews.com/?rev_id=302
| Quote : Fortron Source PSUs have a good rep but they are woefully underamped for highend and high demand systems (especially if you overclock). |
Fortrons rails can merge.
XFX Tech support told me that the FSP 700's low amperage was the reason that my XFX 7900 GTX Extreme wouldn't function properly.
It couldn't handle this rig:
CoolerMaster Stacker Case
Presler 955 3.46
Abit AW8D
2GB DDR2 800
XFX 7900 GTX Extreme
2 Raptors HDDs
320 WD Sata HDD
Creative XFI Fatality (with drive bay unit)
(11) 120mm fans (8 are on rads mounted externally, 2 are LED 1 intake 1 outtake for airflow, 1 for drive cage)
(4) 40mm fans (modded Abit Voltage regulator heatsinks)
Swiftech 655 Water pump
Relay Switch
(2) DVD R/RW Drives
56-1 card reader
floppy drive
Dual cold cathode light
Bay drive voltage adjuster for CPU Peltier Waterblock
(assorted USB devices)
But the Silverstone SST-ST75ZF 750 PSU had no problems with it.
| Quote : Hello, I am currently looking for a high performance, but quiet power supply, that can handle SLI. I have done a bit of research, and found two viable power supplies. I am wondering, from all you experienced folk, if these power supplies are good and (importantly |
I'm pretty sure the Liberty 620 is nvidia SLI certified. But I've got one and it could not power any single high-current GPU that I threw at it, let alone SLI or XFire. I have run XFire with Gigabyte 1900XTs using the OCZ Gamextreme 700 and the mushkin 650. I'm pretty sure your 7800GTX's require less current than the 1900s. The OCZ has a single 12cm fan and the mushkin has two 8's. I was afraid that the 8s on the mushkin would be loud but my ears as well as my dB meter disagree. Both are quieter than my CPU HSFs.
I've heard nothing but good reviews of the Seasonics, so you probably can't go wrong there. I don't know about the loudness of their units. I'd also look at the OCZ, mushkin and FSP units.
| Quote : XFX Tech support told me that the FSP 700's low amperage was the reason that my XFX 7900 GTX Extreme wouldn't function properly.
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Do you think the tech help at XFX know anything?
Fact is, I am using the very same FSP PSU on my midrange rig when it couldn't handle my highend one and the Silverstone could. I kept experiencing equiptment not being recognized, "new hardware discoveries" and complete inability for video to function when I used the FSP unit. I have an excellent cooling system so I know that heat is not an issue and my GPU has never gone over 38 celsius on load.
However, I have had no issues whatsoever when I switched to the Silverstone PSU. I know the FSP unit is still functioning properly because I still use it, just not on a rig that has as high a demand on the draw.
| Quote : XFX Tech support told me that the FSP 700's low amperage was the reason that my XFX 7900 GTX Extreme wouldn't function properly.
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Do you think the tech help at XFX know anything?
Uh, no.
I have a S12-380, and I don't know it is there, so a larger one should suit you for silence.
seasonic all the way, if you can find a quad or tri rail psu with adjustable rails, go for it.
| Quote : I recommend the Seasonic S12 600. I personally have the S12 500 and it is very quiet. In fact, I can hear other components of my PC, but not the Seasonic S12 unless I really concentrate. |
the seasonics is a fu.cking great PSU.
really stable voltages and can deal with high loads. also whisper quiet. aska make good PSUs too.
You should put this on your list as well:
OCZ Gamestream 700w
This might do you some good.
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/prod [...] how=S75EPS
PC Power and Cooling has a really good reputation and if you get the PSU direct it's about $200. Now if you get it through someone else it might be cheaper. It looks like it's got SLI support and at 750 watts it should be pretty stable.
| Quote : XFX Tech support told me that the FSP 700's low amperage was the reason that my XFX 7900 GTX Extreme wouldn't function properly.
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It's always possible that the extra 50 watts of the SST did the trick. I'd have to go back and re-read the reviews, but I seem to remember both of those units delivering on their wattage claims. The SS is rated to deliver 40 more watts on the +12, but both have huge power available (680 vs 720 watts of +12!) and even a peripheral-rich system like yours shouldn't eat that much... I wonder how much the TEC draws? I had problems trying to power eVga 7900GTX's and eventually gave up and switched to ATI. I've read reviews that showed the 1900XT to require more +12 current than the 7900GTX, and I've run two OC'ed 1900XTs on power supplies that wouldn't run a single 7900GTX. Go figger.
I have a Meanwell 600-12SE that powers the TEC so it draws nothing from the PSU. It's only interaction with the Silverstone is the relay switch that turns the Meanwell on when it detects that the computer has been turned on.
I know they aren't absolutely accurate but the PSU calculator at
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp
I think rated me at around 630+ watt usage at idle and I do overclock so I don't know what that is on load.
Here's a review of Corsairs new PSU by Bjorn3D
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=945
| Quote : I think rated me at around 630+ watt usage at idle and I do overclock so I don't know what that is on load. |
Yikes! I think I woulda bought the big SS PS.
Those calculators are almost worthless, this is what I have:
Athlon 64 3700+
2Gig ram
2 250GB samsung spinpoint sata's
X1800XT 512MB OC'd to 695 CPU and 798 Mem
3 120mm fans
2 DVD burners
Media Reader
Audigy 2
Rhycom 500watt almost-generic psu
It pulls just a hair over 150watts at idle, some network traffic and display is all.
At full load at 1600x1200 with Oblivion maxed it pulls 354 MAX with Amps at the wall of only 3.5.
DC and AC amps are not the same though, but the wattage is a good indicator, just take into account some loss, a good 400 would be enough for my system.
BFG 650watts SLi ready PSU with a lifetime warranty.
I do realize that the calculations are not accurate but it does help me make some decisions. I know that my FSP 700 (which is still functioning fine in another rig) couldn't handle my setup as I was having intermitten equiptment loss and recognition and my graphics card was going nutso so I went with a slightly more powerful PSU and everything is fine.
I err on the side of caution and always like to give myself some breathing room for future proofing (such as with the newer GPU chips coming out soon). Like it said in the movie New Jack City: "F&*( it, it's my money"
Thanks for the replies everyone, I will be taking all of your advice into consideration.
I am currently leaning towards the Seasonic, however (to reiterate), I am wondering if it is possible to modify the PC Power and Cooling 510w Deluxe's 80mm fan. Is it possible to replace it with a case fan which is much quieter? or will I risk overheating of the PSU?
I agree with going over what you need, just saying a high quality 600 for example couple outperform a mid quality 800, watt's don't matter, just the quality.
Good comments Phree,
Your right about amperage, which is mostly overlooked.
Also I seem to remember an article....not sure if it was put out by TG, but it had to do with a list of "average" amps that each piece of hardware required in order to help someone building a rig make a decision on choosing a PSU. Wish I could remember where I saw it.
Anyway, good comments Phree and hope this helps ya Q
RIG specs
Antec P180 PerformanceSeries Mid-Tower Case
SeaSonic S12 600 watt power supply
Asus A8N32 SLI mobo AMD N-Force 4 SLIX16 (bios 1103 V02.58)
RealTek 97 onboard digital 5.1 Surround
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Toledo Core, 2 X 1mb L2 cache (AMD driver 1.3.1.0 w/MS hotfix)
2 gigs of Corsair TwinX3500LL Pro @ 437Mhz 2-3-2-6-1T
2- BFG Tech 7900 GT OC 256mb in SLI (nvidia driver 91.31)
Western Digital RAPTOR 74.3 gig 10-K rpm HDD for XP & Apps
Maxtor SATA II 250 G HDD for gaming, movies, MP3's
Maxtor SATA II 250 G HDD for document backup (unplugged)
Sony CD rom 52X
Plextor 708-A DVD/CD rom
Logitech Z-5500 digital 5.1 THX Surround 500watts
It is possible to mod it but if you want to keep your warrantee you can have PC Power and Cooling do it for you. The only problem is that you have to order it direct for this to be done.
| Quote : It is possible to mod it but if you want to keep your warrantee you can have PC Power and Cooling do it for you. The only problem is that you have to order it direct for this to be done. |
Interesting... I spoke to PCP&C about this very possibility back in April and they told me their stock fans were fine, no need to substitute something quieter. Now I knew at the time that they were noisy, so I took it as a sort of "if you want our performance, you put up with our noise" statement.
| Quote : I recommend the Seasonic S12 600. I personally have the S12 500 and it is very quiet. In fact, I can hear other components of my PC, but not the Seasonic S12 unless I really concentrate. |
the seasonics is a fu.cking great PSU.
really stable voltages and can deal with high loads. also whisper quiet. aska make good PSUs too.
Yep, no denying that!!!!
Hm... that's also interesting because on the website if you go to the accessories page they have some info regarding larger, quieter fans... that's odd.
| Quote : Hm... that's also interesting because on the website if you go to the accessories page they have some info regarding larger, quieter fans... that's odd. |
Cool. Like I said, I spoke to them in April. Apparently, they have changed their options - or else the engineer and I missed it back then.
Thanks for the suggestsions and help everyone. I have bought the Seasonic S12.
Great choice Q,
I also have the SeaSonic S12 600watt and I have had NO probs with it.
What case are you going to put it in?
RIG specs
Antec P180 PerformanceSeries Mid-Tower Case
SeaSonic S12 600 watt power supply
Asus A8N32 SLI mobo AMD N-Force 4 SLIX16 (bios 1103 V02.58)
RealTek 97 onboard digital 5.1 Surround
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Toledo Core, 2 X 1mb L2 cache (AMD driver 1.3.1.0 w/MS hotfix)
2 gigs of Corsair TwinX3500LL Pro @ 437Mhz 2-3-2-6-1T
2- BFG Tech 7900 GT OC 256mb in SLI (nvidia driver 91.31)
Western Digital RAPTOR 74.3 gig 10-K rpm HDD for XP & Apps
Maxtor SATA II 250 G HDD for gaming, movies, MP3's
Maxtor SATA II 250 G HDD for document backup (unplugged)
Sony CD rom 52X
Plextor 708-A DVD/CD rom
Logitech Z-5500 digital 5.1 THX Surround 500watts
| Quote : Great choice Q,
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Cooler Master stacker with 3 of those 3-4 device thingies.
I've ordered an Enermax Galaxy as my next PSU upgrade so I think I'll be fine for awhile after it arrives
I've got a stacker, it's the best case I've ever used:
My Stacker
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