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danjal   07-25-2006 at 03:17:52 PM

i'm at a loss, i've looked and i've read, and i'm still not sure, so finaly i will put it out to the mases to help,

the question is simple, which one is better for the long hawl? :?:

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4745454b   07-25-2006 at 03:45:06 PM
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For most people, the 7600GT. What do you see at in the x1600xt that is attracting you?

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danjal   07-25-2006 at 03:46:56 PM
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i can get a x1600xt for 120

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yourmothersanastronaut   07-25-2006 at 04:08:03 PM
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The X1600XT is a waste. It gets crap performance for the price it asks. The 7600GT is a much better option, especially since you can get either a two-slot cooler like on the 7900GTX or a silent heatpipe cooler.

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4745454b   07-25-2006 at 04:10:01 PM
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i can get a x1600xt for 120



So? I can find a 9250 for $30, doesn't mean I should buy it. You haven't said what this card will be used for. If its HTPC, or general use, the x1600 will be fine. If you want to use it for playing video games, you better grab the 7600GT. It is faster, and will keep up much better then the x1600.

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danjal   07-25-2006 at 04:34:55 PM
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Sorry, i should have stated first, i am just looking for a cheap card to keep me going while i wait for direct x 10, i'm using a 6600GT right now, to be honest i play mostly world of warcraft, and a few times i've played oblivion. since my screen is native 1440x900 i wanted one that was good enough to play games with that res, i'm not looking for great graphics now, just playble without having them look like stick men.

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yourmothersanastronaut   07-25-2006 at 04:51:01 PM
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A 6600GT can handle WoW fine at 1600 x 1200 with the details maxed. My friend plays it on his integrated graphics on his Dell desktop (P4 2800, 512MB RAM) with mostly medium settings at 1024 x 768. I played it on my Dell notebook (Celeron 1200, 512MB) with the settings turned to low at 800 x 600 and it was playable.

I play it at 1680 x 1050 on a 7900 GT with an X2 3800+, and I've never seen a framerate lower than 40 fps :lol:

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Track   07-25-2006 at 04:55:59 PM
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i'm at a loss, i've looked and i've read, and i'm still not sure, so finaly i will put it out to the mases to help,

the question is simple, which one is better for the long hawl? :?:



To answer ur question - The Geforce 7600GT is far better and since u can get it for AGP now as well, there is no reason not to want it over the X1600XT.

However, they both suck. You should get a better card - 7900GT/X1900XT.

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pauldh   07-26-2006 at 04:13:38 AM
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To answer ur question - The Geforce 7600GT is far better and since u can get it for AGP now as well, there is no reason not to want it over the X1600XT.


Can you show me a link to a 7600GT or a X1600XT AGP? Neither exist to my knowledge. There is a new 7600GS AGP and there has been a X1600pro AGP.

OP, the 7600GT is a better gaming card than the X1600XT. If gaming is your reason for buying the card, get the 7600GT.

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danjal   07-26-2006 at 04:06:29 PM
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sorry to bother all your heads again, but what is a x1800gto like?

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Gary_Busey   07-26-2006 at 05:20:27 PM
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sorry to bother all your heads again, but what is a x1800gto like?


By itself, not much better than a 7600GT. But, if you can get a HIS X1800GTO, currently $170 after rebate on NewEgg, and flash it to unlock an additional 4 pipelines, you'd have yourself one hell of a card for $170.

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danjal   07-26-2006 at 05:22:55 PM
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hmm, I don't mind paying that price for a card, so is that a good type of card too? is it hard to unlock the pipes? i'm not a stranger to bios updating n such, i've built all my machines from the ground up

I'm really sorry for all the hassle this is causing :oops:

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Gary_Busey   07-26-2006 at 05:26:09 PM
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hmm, I don't mind paying that price for a card, so is that a good type of card too? is it hard to unlock the pipes? i'm not a stranger to bios updating n such, i've built all my machines from the ground up

I'm really sorry for all the hassle this is causing :oops:


Yeah, it's comparable to a 7600GT, and when you turn up the effects and resolution, it performs better than a 7600GT. Here's some info on unlocking:

http://www.bytesizedreviews.com/in [...] on=reviews

They use a different model of HIS card, but it's still the same company as the NewEgg deal I mentioned. Apparently, there's a lot of room for overclocking these cards as well.

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pauldh   07-26-2006 at 05:28:20 PM
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If we don't talk overclocking, just stock performance, the 7600GT and X1800GTO are about equal. They trade blows depending on th game. Priced the same I'd buy the X1800GTO, but with pricing that I have seen, the 7600GT is usually found significantly cheaper...so my money would go into the 7600GT. If you are into Oblivion go with the X1800GTO, if not either will do; go with the cheaper one or the color you prefer.

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Gary_Busey   07-26-2006 at 05:30:51 PM
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But if he wants to spend some time and flash it to an X1800XL, the performance gain would be huge.

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danjal   07-26-2006 at 05:43:06 PM
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Would it require more cooling? i've already watercooled the PC so there is no heat from that, plus the system has a healthy flow of air from the tripple 120mm Fans (Frount x Side blowing over were the graphic card sits x Rear)

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Gary_Busey   07-26-2006 at 06:03:06 PM
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Would it require more cooling? i've already watercooled the PC so there is no heat from that, plus the system has a healthy flow of air from the tripple 120mm Fans (Frount x Side blowing over were the graphic card sits x Rear)


Heat shouldn't be a problem with a cooling setup like that. But if it is, it should be fairly easy and cheap to add a gpu waterblock into your current water set up.

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Cleeve   07-26-2006 at 06:11:50 PM
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Unlocking requires no extra cooling, but unlocking is not guaranteed success.

Overclocking might require extra cooling if you want to go extreme. But the X1800 GTO is an awesome overclocker with the stock cooler, too.

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danjal   07-26-2006 at 06:16:32 PM
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Righto, i've ordered myself a x1800gto and sure i'll give it a whirl, thanks for all your help, i'll let you know how it goes down :roll:

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Gary_Busey   07-26-2006 at 06:21:24 PM
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Cool, let us know if you overclock or unlock and how successful you are with it.

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Anoobis   07-26-2006 at 07:02:33 PM
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You mainly play WOW? The 6600GT would've been fine. How much RAM does your machine have? What are the rest of your system specs?

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danjal   07-26-2006 at 07:12:07 PM
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My machine speks are as follows

P4 3.0Mhz @ 3.30Mhz
1GB DDR 400MHZ
6600GT Nvidia
2x120GB HDD IDE
1x160GB SATA

Nothing fancy but it gets the job done.

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Anoobis   07-26-2006 at 07:24:21 PM
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I only asked because you may have been better off spending that money on an extra Gig of RAM. According to this THG Article, WOW might have benefited from more RAM in your system than a graphics upgrade.

Oh well, I'm sure you'll still enjoy that X1800GTO. You will definately be able to enjoy Oblivion better with that card. Not spectacularly, but much better than a 6600GT.

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TheGreatGrapeApe   07-26-2006 at 08:11:51 PM
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Overclocking might require extra cooling if you want to go extreme. But the X1800 GTO is an awesome overclocker with the stock cooler, too.



Especially with that HIS version of the GTO, since it comes with the cooler they're gonna put on the X1950 series, so IMO it's more than up to the task for overclocking an unlocked card.

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Gary_Busey   07-26-2006 at 08:22:54 PM
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Overclocking might require extra cooling if you want to go extreme. But the X1800 GTO is an awesome overclocker with the stock cooler, too.



Especially with that HIS version of the GTO, since it comes with the cooler they're gonna put on the X1950 series, so IMO it's more than up to the task for overclocking an unlocked card.
The $170 HIS only has a single slot cooler, not the nice big one that you're thinking of. The HIS X1800GTO with the big cooler on it is only $20 more though, well worth it if you're going to unlock then overclock.

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TheGreatGrapeApe   07-27-2006 at 12:06:29 AM
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The $170 HIS only has a single slot cooler, not the nice big one that you're thinking of. The HIS X1800GTO with the big cooler on it is only $20 more though, well worth it if you're going to unlock then overclock.



Ah ok, clicked on your 'unlocking' link and was referencing that one. Guess that's what I get for coming into the discussion a little late. :oops:

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danjal   08-10-2006 at 05:56:08 PM
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Got my card a goood long time ago, unfortuantly it didn't unlock, but hey, it's a grand card and it really does play wow extreamly well, as for oblivion well it does run it to my likings on 1440x900, so thats ace as well.

Thanks for all your advice guys, look foward to reading the rest of your advice

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Gary_Busey   08-10-2006 at 06:30:51 PM
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So you went with the X1800GTO? How well does it perform in Oblivion?

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danjal   08-11-2006 at 11:17:57 AM
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it plays very well, fact it's hard to imagin using a 6600GT again! sure it realy does, play well, not a hickup at all, tho i can't really give you frame rates, all i can say is the card will do me well while i wait for direct x10

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TheGreatGrapeApe   08-11-2006 at 04:09:27 PM
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Just in case you're curious for your own self you can bring up your framerate display in the consol of Oblivion using the TDT command.


Some helpful console command info;
http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_12.html

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Console

http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/d [...] 24363.html

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