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Hello everyone - my PC is about 5 years old and I could use an upgrade in HD size and a new OS. So, I have gone out and purchased a new WD 80GB hard drive and Windows XP. I would like to leave my old HP20GB hard drive in the system (as a second storage place). My PC runs on an AMD Athelon 1.0 and has 512k of Ram so I understand this is enough for XP to run properly. I am now using Windows 98SE as my operating system. Could anyone list the steps that I need to do to get both HD's (the new and the old) up and running with XP as the new OS. I know this may be asking too much; but if you can just list the steps, it will tell me if I should try this myself or go to a shop for help. Thanks. Mike aka Tucats

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Well, Your on the right track, Micro$oft dropped Win98 Support more than two weeks ago now.

Before we get you setup, I have two questions:

1. Have you considered some more upgrades on the hardware side? If you list your exact specs we can absolutely get you on hardware that was made in the last three year for under 200 bucks. If not, I can respect that, you just need it to work.

2. You current 20gb hard drive, do you need to retain any of the data on the drive? Or can it be wiped clean?

Reply to PCcashCow

Hi PCcC; Thanks for the reply. Well, I'm not sure that I need or want anymore $$ upgrades right now. I only use my PC for surfing, geocaching, genealogy and some banking. No fast gamer stuff or hi quality audio/digital needed in this house cause I'm retired, half blind, almost deaf, and could put the money to better use on viagra or wine. lol

Here is my current hardware stats:
Operating System System Model
Windows 98 SE (build 4.10.2222) Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd.
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
1000 megahertz AMD Athlon
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. 7ZX 1.0
Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 62710 11/14/2000
Drives Memory Modules c,d
20.56 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
10.02 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

CREATIVE CD5233E [CD-ROM drive]
LITE-ON CD-RW SOHR-5238S [CD-ROM drive]
Generic floppy disk drive (3.5" )

IBM-DTLA-307020 [Hard drive] (20.58 GB) -- drive 0, s/n YHDYHT8W931, rev TX3OA50C, SMART Status: Healthy 512 Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot '0' has 128 MB
Slot '1' has 128 MB
Slot '2' has 256 MB
Local Drive Volumes

c: (on drive 0) 20.56 GB 10.02 GB free
Network Drives
None detected
Users Printers
No details available

Canon PIXMA iP5000 on MPUSBPRN01
Controllers Display
Standard Floppy Disk Controller
Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 400 (Compaq) [Display adapter]
Korea Data Systems Visual Sensation VS-7/VSx-7 [Monitor]
Bus Adapters Multimedia
VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller Creative Gameport Joystick
Creative Sound Blaster PCI128
Sound Blaster PCI128 Legacy Device
Wave Device for Voice Modem

I would like to keep 90% of the stuff on my current C: drive but especially some of the family pics and the genealogy stuff. Every New Years I say this is the year that I am going to back up my stuff...never seems to happen. I would even consider putting all 10GB of my current C drive over to the new 80GB drive if that is easier than leaving it where it is now. Even better, would it be possible to have the photo's and genealogy info on my old 20 GB drive; and put everything else on the new drive. I will do whatever is the norm and you think is best. And thanks for looking at this as well as your advice. Cheers - Mike aka Tucats

Reply to Logitech

I don't know if this is the absolute best way to do things, but I would Download This tool from Systernals (hurry and get it, M$ just bought them out). The tool will allow you to convert your current file system to NTFS, a step that will make reading the drive later on easier.
Before you go any further you want to get Drivers for every device you have on your system, including motherboard drivers & NIC drivers that are XP compatible. Hopefully you have a CD burner that so you can carry the files over to the new OS.


Again, this is what I would do.


Once you've done that uninstall your current drive and take out. Reason for this is so you can change the jumper on the drive to 'Slave'.

Now install your new drive in a place in your system so that the old drive can be installed blow it.
Once you have power and cabling done, boot up the system and verify that you can see the computer at POST (or boot up).
Press Delete or which ever key that will get you into the bios of you computer. Work your way though the menu till you find the section where you can specify the boot order. Have the CDrom be your first boot, and your newly installed drive (which as long as you dont have the old drive connected should read HHD0 or something similar to that)

Save and exit the bios, drop the XP cd in, and grab a cup of coffee.


....You should get through the install no problems. Once you have a nice and clean OS, you can start to install the downloaded drivers for network, modem, motherboard drivers and so on.

Once you've gone as far as you can go with updating the OS's drivers and hotfixes via windows update, you can shut down.

Be sure you have the old drive jumper in the slave position. Install the cabling and boot up.

You should boot right into XP with no problem.


Now this part is also not the only way do things, but once your system is back up, right click on MY Computer and select Manage. You now should see both drives and there status.


If all goes well from there, I would select all the files you want to save and put them temporarily onto the new OS, once that done, Use the manage interface to format the old drive (Fill format not Quick). After that you should have a nice clean new volume that you can move those photos back onto.


I hope this makes sense for you, Im sure someone else will chime in with a better solution, but you shouldnt have a problem with what I have offered.

Reply to PCcashCow

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I don't know if this is the absolute best way to do things, but I would Download This tool from Systernals (hurry and get it, M$ just bought them out). The tool will allow you to convert your current file system to NTFS, a step that will make reading the drive later on easier.



I wouldn't convert the drive to NTFS first. There is no need. Windows XP can read the FAT32 file system from Windows 98 just fine. And if you convert it first and something goes wrong and you need to boot back up to Windows 98 from this drive, you won't be able to.

Leave the drive FAT32, proceed with the Windows XP installation on the new drive. After everything's up and running and you're sure you won't need to boot from the old drive into Win 98 anymore, you can convert the drive to NTFS using Windows XP's built-in convert utility (no need to use the one from SysInternals). The conversion process does not lose any data.

Reply to SomeJoe7777

That all seems pretty straight forward to me. I will gather up all the drivers first and next week I will have someone more knowledgeable than me here to lend a hand. One last question - Why does the old drive get installed below the new one? and; Once I have everything back up and running what's the best (most useful function?) for operating with a 20GB and an 80GB HD installed? Sorry, that's 2 questions I guess. Thanks for all your time and instructions. I will let you know how it turns out. Cheers - Mike

Reply to Logitech

The steps already listed are strait forward but I will interject a couple more.

After your computer has restarted from bios with the XP CD in it, it may ask you to "press any key to boot from CD" so press any key (I usually use the space bar since it's closest).

After that your computer will start loading all the default drivers that will let windows install. Then you get to a screen which asks you what you want to do: Install XP, Repair XP or exit. Click "enter" (I think).

Then it will ask you where you want to install XP on and your hard drive will appear as an unpartitioned space. If you want to keep the drive unpartitioned just click on it, choose the default number (this should be the entire drive minus 5% or so) and it will start formatting (this may take a while). If you want to partition it then choose the unpartitioned space but change the default value to something smaller, say 40gb, then partition the other one to the max default value (should be like 38gb).

Whether you partition or not is up to you. One reason to do so is if you keep data on here and your XP screws up later you don't lose the data if you reformat and install XP again. Basically it treats the two partitions as different drives even if they are on the same physical drive. You will have to decide if you want to partition at all and how big to make them. I would personally not partition as the drive isn't big enough.

Once you have finished creating your partitions choose the partition you want to install XP on (C drive) and it will start formatting it. Once it starts installing the windows components it will reboot (probably an hour or so later) and a nice screen will come up telling you your progress and will ask you questions periodically, just check up on it now and then.

As to how to use the hdd's. Use the 80gb as the OS / programs drive, install everything on here. Anything in "My documents" will also be stored on this drive by default. Use the 20gb as a data drive to store pictures, movies, music... etc.

Reply to waylander

Thanks waylander... you make it all sound so easy. And the HDD management sounds very reasonable so that's what I will do. Thanks again and I will let you know how things turn out. Mike (aka Tucats)

Reply to Logitech
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Best of luck, Logitech! Keep us updated. I'm in a similar bind; I'm looking to get a bigger drive, but I want to keep my OS and files. Anyone know a good drive-mirroring ap? Preferably open-source, of course.

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