"AMD Claims Big Opteron Supercomputing Wins"

http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32694

...And since many still don't believe The Inq, here's the press release from the Top500 site:

Top500.org

It's really amazing that AMD did such a feat in increasing their number of Opteron supercomputers in just 1 year (almost 135% growth). Once Torrenza is fully available we can expect this number to grow even further.

9 inch why is it when you post something it always has to be AMD cliams this or AMD future outlook is better than intel's? Post something thats worth while.

I dont think theres any difference between your "sources" and AMD itself...

Maybe he said so...

you can always build the best supercomputer. just stick as many CPUs in as you can. if you have more CPUs than i have, then you probably will have better performances.

...He didn't said it was number one, all he said was more presence in the supercomputer space.

Maybe he said so...

you can always build the best supercomputer. just stick as many CPUs in as you can. if you have more CPUs than i have, then you probably will have better performances.

...He didn't said it was number one, all he said was more presence in the supercomputer space.

are you just mentally challenged that you can't read, or are you just blind?
your sources just re-iterate AMD's statement. they both didn't have any position on this matter.

same in AMD's situation. theinquirer didn't make any statement regarding Opteron's performance. it only said, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory will build a system with 16,000 Opterons, which may be the "largest" supercomputer.

i wonder where was the screw 9nm's brain lost years ago...

Maybe he said so...

you can always build the best supercomputer. just stick as many CPUs in as you can. if you have more CPUs than i have, then you probably will have better performances.

...He didn't said it was number one, all he said was more presence in the supercomputer space.

are you just mentally challenged that you can't read, or are you just blind?
your sources just re-iterate AMD's statement. they both didn't have any position on this matter.

same in AMD's situation. theinquirer didn't make any statement regarding Opteron's performance. it only said, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory will build a system with 16,000 Opterons, which may be the "largest" supercomputer.

i wonder where was the screw 9nm's brain lost years ago...

I gave you both sources, not just The Inq, so please get your facts straight.

Yeah Shabodah is right Toms' is infested with Intel fanboys that can't get over the fact that Intel is in sh*t. They're all probably paid by Intel to defend Intel and they probably all get discounts on Intel chips, shirts, hats,etc. LOL. Attention all you Intel fanboys get that Intel pariotism sh*t out of your minds. Face the facts Intel cannot made silicin chips anymore, AMD rules they chip game. Intel's last resort is to spy on AMD's research lab. LOL.

All you Intel fanboys are dumb that is how AMD makes it's money buy making claims and influencing people to buy it's chips. Just because Intel fanboys don't have deep pockets to buy AMD chips doesn't mean they have to be against AMD. All you Intel fanboys need to take a chill pill, and stop talking sh*t you AMD fanboys just because we prefer AMD over Intel.

I saw this post - and I said it had to be 9-inch
Even without the caps.

Personally - I don't care care a rats butt about servers. If there's
any truth in what you say - and it makes you feel good - I'm glad

I just want AMD and Intel to compete. Then we all get what we want.

I gotta wonder what the difference in price between the opteron and itanium is. *I* can buy an opteron. Not even sure where I'd get an Itanium. Different class of processor. The fact that the opteron supercomputers are X86 is amazing. None of the supercomputers years ago were X86.

Why can't Intel just let the sinking ship die? If they fix their bus issues, their new march will destroy Itanium very quickly.

Buy an Itanium if you can afford to. If not, don't.

Why do people buy an Athlon 64 when the Semprons might offer a better price-performance ratio? The same case with the Itaniums.

There are more than 260 systems with Xeons on the list; and Xeons have had a good presence on the list for a long time. So it is not so amazing that an x86 processor system is on the list.

Terrible analogy. The Sempron is not very different than the Athlon nor the Opteron, and they are all x86 cpu's within close price ranges of each other. As a matter of fact, the low end single core Athlons are priced almos the same as the semprons. This is certainly a place for everything, but 8000 Itaniums are not saving much space versus 10000 opterons. They might even take up MORE volume. I got to wonder what the total wattage for these systems are as well. With dual core HE opterons, you're running at a maximum of 27.5 watts each core.

Well, Opterons are great processors, and I guess this is something of a victory for AMD. I think Woodcrest will turn things around though. Hopefully before long the P4 Xeons will be nothing more than distant, painful memory.

Well, so 8704 Xeons (the Netburts, not the Woodies) are better than 10368 Opties...

"There should be room for both sides here, not just one."

NO! All fanboys=bad.

Its not a 2nd "source" if it gets its info from the 1st "source".

"Yeah Shabodah is right Toms' is infested with Intel fanboys that can't get over the fact that Intel is in sh*t."

Realy? With the newest processors looking the way they are as well as sheer Profit they are making, I wouldnt exactly call Intel "in sh*t.".

"Face the facts Intel cannot made silicin chips anymore, AMD rules they chip game. Intel's last resort is to spy on AMD's research lab. LOL. "

This is incorrect, if they can only spy to advance, why do they even have R&D, shouldnt they just up the $ to the espionage division? Also if they "rule the game" why does Intel have the majority of the market?

"All you Intel fanboys are dumb that is how AMD makes it's money buy making claims and influencing people to buy it's chips."

They make there money because Currently they have the best product, and people like what gives them the best $/performance

"Just because Intel fanboys don't have deep pockets to buy AMD chips doesn't mean they have to be against AMD."

So you are implying that AMD has expensive chips? If this is true then it means nothing to be the best if no one in the market they target can afford them.

"All you Intel fanboys need to take a chill pill, and stop talking sh*t you AMD fanboys just because we prefer AMD over Intel."

I have nothing againt people perfering a product, I have something against uncorrected Ignoreance, or heaven forbid, stupidity. Also by your logic of "you shouldnt hate someone because they prefer something", wouldnt that mean that you shouldnt hate Intel "fanboys"?

well it might be true for any system, if you spend enough time with almost any processor and cater to its strenghs then you can make it a SC.

I actually started the thread on Tukwila. Thanks for reminding me, though. I am not trying to cause trouble with AMD/Intel wars. I wish we could all just keep the emotions off the table and only look at the facts. FACT: both AMD and Intel make damn nice CPU's. FACT: We are all benefitting from their competition. FACT: Both companies make CPU's that exceed by far what normal people use them for. My only gripe against Itanium has nothing to do with it being Intel. It has to do with PRIDE getting in the way of progress. Streamlining hardware reducing costs for IT departments everywhere. Speciality hardware does just the opposite. Why we are stuck on x86 is beyond me, but a unified code is a good thing.

Do you get paid from AMD for this bullshit or are you a self-made Extremist ?

9 INCH WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU ???? im sorry for the caps but seriously wtf ? you keep posting AMD commentary, from AMD executives, why in the hell would they admit their competition is much stronger then they are them selves ? its soo useless to post something like this.

I can say that Opteron IS suited for the HPC segment becasue of all of its features. Now with Torrenza and K8L coming along, Opteron would be the processor of choice.

when is that K8L will be release? 2008? 2008 is the dawn of Intel Itanium "tukwila core" and "Nehalem" architecture. based on 45nm process technology. so it will be too late again for AMD to survive those new core architecture from Intel..

I can say that Opteron IS suited for the HPC segment becasue of all of its features. Now with Torrenza and K8L coming along, Opteron would be the processor of choice.

when is that K8L will be release? 2008? 2008 is the dawn of Intel Itanium "tukwila core" and "Nehalem" architecture. based on 45nm process technology. so it will be too late again for AMD to survive those new core architecture from Intel..
If you ask me, 2008 is way too late for K8L. I'm guessing Q2-3 of 2007 at the very latest. By 2008, AMD would need to be bringing on K10. My idea is that Intel is exploiting its larger manufacturing and R&D capabilities to outrun AMD technologically - they can't file an antitrust suit over that.

I can say that Opteron IS suited for the HPC segment becasue of all of its features. Now with Torrenza and K8L coming along, Opteron would be the processor of choice.

when is that K8L will be release? 2008? 2008 is the dawn of Intel Itanium "tukwila core" and "Nehalem" architecture. based on 45nm process technology. so it will be too late again for AMD to survive those new core architecture from Intel..

K8L is supposed to debut next year, and if you didn't know, nehalem won't be challenging K8L, it will have to face the brand new K10 core.
Still, I don't see intel "leaping ahead" AMD like how they state.

Ok Mike ur an idiot the Opteron K8L Quad core and the Athlon Quad Core will Consume the same energy as a Dual core. And so either running a dual core X2 or a Quad core X2 will be the same thing. K8L is'nt gay because AMD is releasing the 4 core to the enthuasist and the desktop market while Intel is only managing to bring in a small supply of them to the workstation and server segment. (there is'nt a need for bigger powersupplys. They just need more connectors because ATI and NVidia are getting smaller 70-80nm chips and getting more efficient circutry going through their cards by the time 4X4 is out with a quad core so you would'nt need that 1000W powersupply. only a decient 500W SLI type and your good to go.

can't say the same about CD and CVC drives. those things consume most of the energy at start up. always start up hopin gnobody left a Cd in there other wise i'd get a power defficient notise from the BIOS or i get a BLue screen of death with the "IRQnot geting the right what ever". right at the windows xp loading screen