"AMD Chooses Saratoga Site For Microchip Plant"

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ALBANY, N.Y. -- Semiconductor maker Advanced Micro Devices Inc., lured by about $1 billion in state incentives, will build a multibillion dollar chip manufacturing plant in upstate New York and create 2,000 permanent jobs, state and company officials said Friday.

AMD, based in Sunnyvale, Calif., chose to locate the new plant on a 600-acre site in Malta, about 25 miles north of Albany, after considering bids from East Asia and Germany, state officials said.

"The Hudson Valley is going to be America's next Silicon Valley," Pataki said. "We're well on our way to achieving that, I'm extremely confident this is just the beginning."

Pataki said the state and company would invest $3.2 billion initially adding another $2 billion over the next few years. The deal comes after several years of Pataki efforts to entice a major chip manufacturer to come to New York.

They finally did it!
I hope this one to be 450mm

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ALBANY, N.Y. -- Semiconductor maker Advanced Micro Devices Inc., lured by about $1 billion in state incentives, will build a multibillion dollar chip manufacturing plant in upstate New York and create 2,000 permanent jobs, state and company officials said Friday.

AMD, based in Sunnyvale, Calif., chose to locate the new plant on a 600-acre site in Malta, about 25 miles north of Albany, after considering bids from East Asia and Germany, state officials said.

"The Hudson Valley is going to be America's next Silicon Valley," Pataki said. "We're well on our way to achieving that, I'm extremely confident this is just the beginning."

Pataki said the state and company would invest $3.2 billion initially adding another $2 billion over the next few years. The deal comes after several years of Pataki efforts to entice a major chip manufacturer to come to New York.

So

they finally did it!

So I guess the rumors of AMDs demise were premature.

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ALBANY, N.Y. -- Semiconductor maker Advanced Micro Devices Inc., lured by about $1 billion in state incentives, will build a multibillion dollar chip manufacturing plant in upstate New York and create 2,000 permanent jobs, state and company officials said Friday.

AMD, based in Sunnyvale, Calif., chose to locate the new plant on a 600-acre site in Malta, about 25 miles north of Albany, after considering bids from East Asia and Germany, state officials said.

"The Hudson Valley is going to be America's next Silicon Valley," Pataki said. "We're well on our way to achieving that, I'm extremely confident this is just the beginning."

Pataki said the state and company would invest $3.2 billion initially adding another $2 billion over the next few years. The deal comes after several years of Pataki efforts to entice a major chip manufacturer to come to New York.

So

they finally did it!

So I guess the rumors of AMDs demise were premature.

Too bad that bill will be fronted by the American tax payers, but whatever right bad management in the past caused FAB's to close, and tax dollars help replace what was lost.

Reply to spud

Could you imagine if they managed to launch 450mm and 45nm at the same time in H2 08'. 8)

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ALBANY, N.Y. -- Semiconductor maker Advanced Micro Devices Inc., lured by about $1 billion in state incentives, will build a multibillion dollar chip manufacturing plant in upstate New York and create 2,000 permanent jobs, state and company officials said Friday.

AMD, based in Sunnyvale, Calif., chose to locate the new plant on a 600-acre site in Malta, about 25 miles north of Albany, after considering bids from East Asia and Germany, state officials said.

"The Hudson Valley is going to be America's next Silicon Valley," Pataki said. "We're well on our way to achieving that, I'm extremely confident this is just the beginning."

Pataki said the state and company would invest $3.2 billion initially adding another $2 billion over the next few years. The deal comes after several years of Pataki efforts to entice a major chip manufacturer to come to New York.

So

they finally did it!

So I guess the rumors of AMDs demise were premature.

Too bad that bill will be fronted by the American tax payers, but whatever right bad management in the past caused FAB's to close, and tax dollars help replace what was lost.

The US Gvt has a money spending problem even when their economy is crashing around them. There's a reason our dollar's are nearly 1:1

Reply to K8MAN

Wishful thinking.

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Could you imagine if they managed to launch 450mm and 45nm at the same time in H2 08'.

Well, 9-inch's own article saids:

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Construction on the 1.2 million square foot plant is slated to begin in July 2007 and be completed by July 2009. The plant will be fully operational sometime between January 2012 and January 2014.

So I can't imagine 450mm and 45nm in 2008. Makes you wonder what that plant will be producing though. By 2014, we may no longer be using silicon although given Intel's 2 year schedule they theoretically would reach 22nm by 2012 and given AMD is about a year behind they'd have 22nm in 2013 or the time frame of this plant. I wonder why their time frame is so wide though, 2012-2014.

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Owned.

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Owned.

Word.

Reply to spud

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Could you imagine if they managed to launch 450mm and 45nm at the same time in H2 08'.

Well, 9-inch's own article saids:

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Construction on the 1.2 million square foot plant is slated to begin in July 2007 and be completed by July 2009. The plant will be fully operational sometime between January 2012 and January 2014.

So I can't imagine 450mm and 45nm in 2008. Makes you wonder what that plant will be producing though. By 2014, we may no longer be using silicon although given Intel's 2 year schedule they theoretically would reach 22nm by 2012 and given AMD is about a year behind they'd have 22nm in 2013 or the time frame of this plant. I wonder why their time frame is so wide though, 2012-2014.

There is about as much chance of 450 mm @ 45 nm as 9-inch has of winning a nobel prize ....

Word.

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Could you imagine if they managed to launch 450mm and 45nm at the same time in H2 08'.

Well, 9-inch's own article saids:

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Construction on the 1.2 million square foot plant is slated to begin in July 2007 and be completed by July 2009. The plant will be fully operational sometime between January 2012 and January 2014.

So I can't imagine 450mm and 45nm in 2008. Makes you wonder what that plant will be producing though. By 2014, we may no longer be using silicon although given Intel's 2 year schedule they theoretically would reach 22nm by 2012 and given AMD is about a year behind they'd have 22nm in 2013 or the time frame of this plant. I wonder why their time frame is so wide though, 2012-2014.

There is about as much chance of 450 mm @ 45 nm as 9-inch has of winning a nobel prize ....
jack, you have pwned your ass.
It will be fully functional between 2012 and 2014, so it is possible to be 450mm 45nm as 9nm said without reading the article. About 9nm and nobel prize, sounds cool.

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Owned.

Word.

You guys are pathetic. Wait let's not insult pathetic people. :lol:

Reply to BaronMatrix

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Could you imagine if they managed to launch 450mm and 45nm at the same time in H2 08'. 8)

It's actually possible. As quiet as it's kept Fab36 is doing 300mm 90 and 65. With Chartered helping, it will be easier to update Fab38 in a flip flop manner.

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Owned.

Word.

You guys are pathetic. Wait let's not insult pathetic people. :lol:

Moo.
Cry Me A River, I'll Shit You A Bridge So You Won't Get Wet!

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Owned.

Word.

You guys are pathetic. Wait let's not insult pathetic people. :lol:
STFU Noob!

Reply to gOJDO

There's no economical reason to go to 450mm wafers. Stop getting your panties wet over it, unless you want AMD to be at a disadvantage.

Reply to ethernalite

err, they already are...

Reply to RichPLS

Does anyone else have 450mm?

Reply to Ycon

With the economy fixing to tank it will never happen.

AMD will be lucky to keep what they have, as well as Intel.

To many unsecured loans and way to many credit cards issued. Too many people have been borrowing from Peter to pay Paul.

Peter is going to want his money back pretty soon.

Reply to intelamduser

How Do you Exactly analise the North American Market While Not even living in MainLand?? I'm in Toronto and i still don't have the right to analize BAY street(canada) or Wall Street(usa). I don't think that the economy will tank it might start paceing and stablilsing but in the way business runs now adays it'll never "tank" unless our Superintelligent friend to the south deside to start another war or get another abbration on their places of business from alien sourses on their home land ex.9/11 we're going to only go stable from here or get better. Becase the world making shytter items which only have a life of 2-3 months. "Product life decrease + the buying increases= Constant Product sales which in turn means more sales. Both American and Asian Companys now follow that equation Because my Playstation first edition lasted 7 years without problems and then i bought another small form PSone or PSX and it only lasted a good 5 months before going to the dump. My Pentium 2 @266 lasted from 1997-2004 and still runs now. But my friends pentium 4 @ 2.4Ghz lasted him 2 years and now the power supply died 2 times and the motherboard burned from voltage regualtor problems. And then the last one the Core burned in from overheating. He was running a stock Dell with a upgraded Heatsink compund.

Reply to YO_KID37

Once in awhile, I come into the CPU hardware forum here at Tom's Hardware.... to get a good laugh...it has never let me down!!!

"word"

LOL!!!!

You all sound so stupid....it is beyond the Sunday funnies...it really is!!!!

But please... really please...keep going....it is that funny!!!!!

"err, they already are..." ...LOL!!!!!
"There's no economical reason to go to 450mm wafers. " ...ROTFL!!!!!!!

Reply to Powerdog_69er

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Once in awhile, I come into the CPU hardware forum here at Tom's Hardware.... to get a good laugh...it has never let me down!!!

"word"

LOL!!!!

You all sound so stupid....it is beyond the Sunday funnies...it really is!!!!

But please... really please...keep going....it is that funny!!!!!

"err, they already are..." ...LOL!!!!!
"There's no economical reason to go to 450mm wafers. " ...ROTFL!!!!!!!

We're Glad to Shiver ya Timbers. MAitey that's what the CPU fourm is for eh!! :idea:

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www.newsday.com

ALBANY, N.Y. -- Semiconductor maker Advanced Micro Devices Inc., lured by about $1 billion in state incentives, will build a multibillion dollar chip manufacturing plant in upstate New York and create 2,000 permanent jobs, state and company officials said Friday.

AMD, based in Sunnyvale, Calif., chose to locate the new plant on a 600-acre site in Malta, about 25 miles north of Albany, after considering bids from East Asia and Germany, state officials said.

"The Hudson Valley is going to be America's next Silicon Valley," Pataki said. "We're well on our way to achieving that, I'm extremely confident this is just the beginning."

Pataki said the state and company would invest $3.2 billion initially adding another $2 billion over the next few years. The deal comes after several years of Pataki efforts to entice a major chip manufacturer to come to New York.

They finally did it!
I hope this one to be 450mm

I really hope AMD has a superior to intel architecture by the time this comes on line. Else, they may have to put a for sale sign on some of their older fabs. Just sounds to me that they are gonna have enough capacity for 50%+ marketshare when this thing ramps up. Only way that will fly is with an architecture that beats intel like the K8 did netburst. Unless they are reasonably sure that they are gonna be able to beat intel on price/performance this will likely just be a risky gamble that could keep AMD in the red for a long, long time. This is of course factoring out any major world economic problems in the given time frame which could drastically effect end demand.

Reply to gr8mikey

I'm Surprised That People Know even what a AMD is in the first place. I've never seen AMD advertise on tv Ever. So it's going to kind of hard taking that 80%~ lead away from Intel. Since Nobody knows about AMD and the 50% of that 80% are Darntooting, pellet shooting, rootingfluting Heehaw dumbass retards. From the great state of Who gives a shytt..they be shouting "prescott" r03DpkXX my world!!Pentium 4 is the Best thing ever :lol: :lol: :lol: lolls. It's not possible for AMD to get any market gain unless they start producing on quota and start showing ads to the Average dumb a$$ North american. Thats the only way to get AMDs sold

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to the masses for the masses in the masses

Did i just coin that or was this quote said before?? And produce the cheapest, locked, faulty shytt for Dell and sell below Pentium 4(OMFG its so FAST) HT! prices

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I'm Surprised That People Know even what a AMD is in the first place. I've never seen AMD advertise on tv Ever. So it's going to kind of hard taking that 80%~ lead away from Intel. Since Nobody knows about AMD and the 50% of that 80% are Darntooting, pellet shooting, rootingfluting Heehaw dumbass retards. From the great state of Who gives a shytt..they be shouting "prescott" r03DpkXX my world!!Pentium 4 is the Best thing ever :lol: :lol: :lol: lolls. It's not possible for AMD to get any market gain unless they start producing on quota and start showing ads to the Average dumb a$$ North american. Thats the only way to get AMDs sold to the masses for the masses in the masses

Did i just coin that or was this quote said before?? And produce the cheapest, locked, faulty shytt for Dell and sell below Pentium 4(OMFG its so FAST) HT! prices

First of all, AMD has had plenty of TV commercials.

Second, AMD owns something like 60-70% of the retail market. That means that a lot of the "darntooting, pellet shooting, rootingfluting Heehaw dumbass retards" are in fact buying AMD. After all, for the most part, I'd consider the people who walk into Best Buy to purchase a new PC to be the most ignorant when it comes to picking out the PC that is best for them. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that most of the people that order Dells are that well versed in computer lore either, but on a ranking, I'd put the retail sales at the bottom of the bin.

Third, it's awfully arrogant of you to call people who aren't well versed in computer lore "dumbass retards." I doubt you know the intricacies of precise engine performance relative to a single metric that is most often given (horsepower and/or torque), yet I doubt that would stop you from buying a car. And it doesn't mean that you're retarded.

Reply to ethernalite

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I'm Surprised That People Know even what a AMD is in the first place. I've never seen AMD advertise on tv Ever. So it's going to kind of hard taking that 80%~ lead away from Intel. Since Nobody knows about AMD and the 50% of that 80% are Darntooting, pellet shooting, rootingfluting Heehaw dumbass retards. From the great state of Who gives a shytt..they be shouting "prescott" r03DpkXX my world!!Pentium 4 is the Best thing ever :lol: :lol: :lol: lolls. It's not possible for AMD to get any market gain unless they start producing on quota and start showing ads to the Average dumb a$$ North american. Thats the only way to get AMDs sold to the masses for the masses in the masses

Did i just coin that or was this quote said before?? And produce the cheapest, locked, faulty shytt for Dell and sell below Pentium 4(OMFG its so FAST) HT! pricesDude, you're making Canadians look like idiots. Stay off the crack for a while. :roll:

Reply to 1Tanker

I can anylize becuase I have socks that are older than you are and have seen what happens in an overheated economy when the bank and lending institutions loan money to people who will never be able to pay it back.

Housing costs went up so much that a lot people are paying over half of their income for house payments and to top that off they have financed a $30,000 car for 6 years. To top that off the interest rate is going to rise and the ARM's and credit card interest rates will go up so much that house payments and credit card payments may double.

What goes up fast will come down faster and we are headed for a disaster.

And for you to state that someone lives outside of the mainland USA does not know what is going on is pretty naive. I work for a company that does buisiness in 17 states and becuase I prefer to live in paridise and I can afford too, I do so.

This has little to do with this forum so I will shutup.

Reply to intelamduser

Congratulations on prophesizing a crash in the US economy! How original.

Don't get me wrong, the United States is in some pretty hefty macroeconomic trouble, but it's hardly the end of the world. It's fun to fortell doom, especially when it deals with the magic box of The Economy(tm).

Just for the record, the amount of money (in percentage relative to median household income) being spent on housing and other necessary goods is at, or near, all time lows. Oops.

IAAE...OALIMII (I Am An Economist.. Or At Least I Majored In It)

Reply to ethernalite

Here's a take on the AMD/NY announcement. Check out #3. They aren't really confident about their future, as they have an out(due to lack of market requirements). That means, if they can't compete against Intel. :wink: Hmmm.

http://www.overclockers.com/tips00984/

Reply to 1Tanker

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Here's a take on the AMD/NY announcement. Check out #3. They aren't really confident about their future, as they have an out(due to lack of market requirements). That means, if they can't compete against Intel. :wink: Hmmm.

http://www.overclockers.com/tips00984/

Are you going to believe Ed Stroligo's "forecast" of the future. :lol:
Believe me, that guy has never said something good about AMD.

Reply to 9-inch

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Are you going to believe Ed Stroligo's "forecast" of the future. :lol:
Believe me, that guy has never said something good about AMD.

*coughs*

Pot, kettle, black?

Reply to ethernalite

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Here's a take on the AMD/NY announcement. Check out #3. They aren't really confident about their future, as they have an out(due to lack of market requirements). That means, if they can't compete against Intel. :wink: Hmmm.

http://www.overclockers.com/tips00984/

Are you going to believe Ed Stroligo's "forecast" of the future. :lol:
Believe me, that guy has never said something good about AMD.And the Inq says lots good about Intel though. :wink:

Reply to 1Tanker

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And the Inq says lots good about Intel though

I believe it's 50-50.

Reply to 9-inch

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And the Inq says lots good about Intel though

I believe it's 50-50.I'm not as interested in Ed's opinions, as the terms of the agreement, which i hadn't seen until this article. :wink:

Reply to 1Tanker

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Here's a take on the AMD/NY announcement. Check out #3. They aren't really confident about their future, as they have an out(due to lack of market requirements). That means, if they can't compete against Intel. :wink: Hmmm.

http://www.overclockers.com/tips00984/

Are you going to believe Ed Stroligo's "forecast" of the future. :lol:
Believe me, that guy has never said something good about AMD.

This from the individual who quotes The Inquirer as if it were the burning bush?

Dude, you've been told and told again, you need to start reading the actual articles before you start spouting, not just the headlines.

As to AMD actually building the plant in NY, I give it a 12% chance. Having lived in NY for 26 years before moving to FL, and having family still there whom I visit regularly, I can tell you more about that state than either of those articles, including demographics, taxation, infrastructure and geography. The probability is that AMDs just using the offer as bait to lure other offers.

Reply to turpit

It's not the amount of money being spent, it is the amount which is owed.

Reply to intelamduser

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Reply to Powerdog_69er

You're right I don't see why AMD wouldn't advertise their chips. All I know is that they hang and stick poster with their logo on electronic shows and gaming conventions. I think their sells would be better if they are willing to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on advertising. But I guess AMDs staff are just cheap fat bastards. My last years cpu the 3800 I bought and it was great and better than my P4 but don't know why it's not that popular. With their new plant they can produce more chips and replenish the demands and can lower the price as well to be more competitive with Intel. But they really need to advertise their product more, not just to the companies and enthusiast but to all consumers. Ask people around that doesn't know about cpu's and computer and they would more likely say Intel, even when I ask some of my none-computer related friends and they would say Intel for operating systems and softwares. My point is AMD should advertise and what can we all benifit from this? More competition would give lower prices on their cpu and everyone wins.

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You're right I don't see why AMD wouldn't advertise their chips. All I know is that they hang and stick poster with their logo on electronic shows and gaming conventions. I think their sells would be better if they are willing to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on advertising. But I guess AMDs staff are just cheap fat bastards. My last years cpu the 3800 I bought and it was great and better than my P4 but don't know why it's not that popular. With their new plant they can produce more chips and replenish the demands and can lower the price as well to be more competitive with Intel. But they really need to advertise their product more, not just to the companies and enthusiast but to all consumers. Ask people around that doesn't know about cpu's and computer and they would more likely say Intel, even when I ask some of my none-computer related friends and they would say Intel for operating systems and softwares. My point is AMD should advertise and what can we all benifit from this? More competition would give lower prices on their cpu and everyone wins.

Chuckshissle Your the only one to actually see ome point of my message. Exactly AMD-....you should Make Some ADs you still have a great products and if you advertise you'll get some people realising that You are selling better products than DELL wnd their SHytty A$$ *(Pentium 4HT Dreamsystems).. But Chuckshissle I'm pretty sure if they stuck a sticker of AMD on grandcentural station then they would'nt be able to keep up with demands, which they already are always seeming to be falling short on all the time.

Reply to YO_KID37

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They finally did it!
I hope this one to be 450mm

No way will AMD make the first 450mm fab. With all of the money they are spending, they must be planning on converting one of their older fabs so that it prints money instead of making chips. They couldn't afford to pay top dollar for every tool manufacturer to prototype the 450mm tools for them. There is a reason that they came to 300mm after Intel. This allows Intel to absorb the RD cost so AMD isn't paying that premium.

But then again, I would have bet that AMD didn't have the money to build 2 new fabs either.

Reply to carlhungis

All I KNOW is that the plant will be 17 miles from my house. Hopefully when I'm ready to retire... some nice mid-level manager will want to buy it and some ungodly hight price. Then I will be a happy camper... AMD rulez and their money spends good too...

Da Wrofster

Reply to Worf101

Well, it seems that it will be a huge 300mm fab.

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Under the terms of this non-binding agreement, AMD would be able to construct a new, $600 million, 1.2 million square foot facility, equipped with approximately $2.6 billion in state-of-the-art tools designed to produce 300 mm wafers using 32nm process technology.

MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR 300 MM SEMICONDUCTOR MANUFACTURING PLANT

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All I KNOW is that the plant will be 17 miles from my house. Hopefully when I'm ready to retire... some nice mid-level manager will want to buy it and some ungodly hight price. Then I will be a happy camper... AMD rulez and their money spends good too...

Da Wrofster

Basically this is what Shakira is tell him self Right before he Types up those posts and cuts & Pastes them here http://ualuealuealeuale.ytmnd.com/

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