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i think it all depends on what games you play. If you play a game that is PC only, then why spending on a console? The same with consoles. If the game is released for both (as most titles today are), i'd get a console.
You can upgrade a computer, but on a console you'll always be sure that the game will run at least decently. With a computer you wont.

[quote="Miecz"]........but just imagine if there was just one awesome system that could do it all. Well, I would like that. I would not have to be thinking about whether PCs or consoles are better. [quote]

Yeah, but if computers "do it all" then eventually we'll be discussing which one does it all better. And we'd still be in the same spot we are now, debating strengths of different systems.

I was making a quick assessment.

Miecz has to deside which one he/she would prefer on what game he wanted more to play.

I have 4 computer and 4 console from ps1 to Xbox.

I use both system PC/Console for games my kids play both system but uses 65 percent of the PC games because they can download some free one.

I prefer console because I love racing games and not much into first person shooter games. I still play my Granturismo 2 game. because it has the car that I owned.

If you are trying to decide to get a PS3 or a PC purely for games. Then consider what games you want to buy now, and what games are coming out in the future. If most of the games you want are coming out for the PS3, then get a PS3. If most of the games you want are coming out for the PC, then get a PC.

Assuming you buy a medium to high-end PC now, games that you buy now should run fine, in general. Games coming out 3 years from now may run ok if you turn down some of the video settings. At that point you may want to upgrade.

A game coming out for the PS3 3, 4, or even 5 years from now will run just as well as games that will be released this year or next year, whenever PS3 is supposed to come out. Why? The hardware remains the same.

Pcs already have much higher graphical capability then sonys wunderbox, the cell isnt powerful, neither is their RSX which is just a single 7900 gt, when you look at clock speeds of only 550 mhz. The cell could never even come close to operating at the performance of our dual cores today. I say buy the high end gaming pc and have 3x the capability and freedom with it. Youll have higher gaming performance, scaleability. NONE of the ps3 playable games look good, they all look a generation behind GTHD looks horrendous, I didnt know that paper crowds were still an in thing....., in short nothing looks good after watching crysis being run in real time.

I would assume you can connect a LCD monitor to a 360 or PS3. I don't think it is a requirement to connect it to a TV.

Really? I didn't realize the processor was drawing the scenes in the PS3. I guess it really is all powerful.

PS3 games look great because the G70 GPU is fully capable of displaying effects like that on the PC as well. The reason they can get more out of it on the PS3 is because developers can wring every last drop of performance out of the components on the system. They don't have to worry about Windows, background tasks, etc. When you have a closed system like a games console you can get far more performance out of it than with the same level of hardware on a PC. Thats why the PS2 and Xbox 1 can deliver awesome looking games like Gran Turismo 4, MGS3, and Halo 2.

The Cell processor is just one piece of the puzzle and the weakest link of it at that. Both the Xbox 360 CPU and Cell both are horrible. Here's a link to an article Anandtech had published:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt [...] 8ea9?hl=en

Ill sum this up for everyone

PC with a keyboard and mouse owns console in fps!!!!!! I read somewhere here on Toms a couple weeks ago that once Vista and DX10 comes out and new games are made...us pc users will get to play console users online.. I cant wait to own kids on the consoles playing a first person shooter You just cant move as fast and as precise with a "joypad"

Something else to think...If sony or M$ actually make a descent keyoard and mouse setup for the consoles the pc gaming market is going to take a big hit

good point, and you answered your own statement
no need for microsoft or sony to lauch a keyboard or mouse... that's why usb is made for.

For the same price, no. PS3 will be retailed in the U.S. for $499, so building a pc with the same graphics wowness as the PS3 would cost a bit more than $499. A 7800/X1800 would be needed to render good quality graphics and smooth frame rates to equal that of the rendering engine of the PS3. So if you're just a pure gamer then a PS3 would be nice but pc would always be better.

to be honest a pc is the best option it always has been and always will be as stated before gaming on a pc can go far higher definitions than that of 1080i and also you get far better quality screens than buying a massive TV with huge pixels that you have to sit half way across the room to get a good image reducing the quality furthermore also you cant upgrade a console massive difference there a pc can last you a life time with the odd upgrade hear and there whereas a console what 5 years until the next “best” thing comes out
ok now go back one year the Xbox 360 isn’t out yet the pc graphics are twice what any console at that time could offer and to be honest now the Xbox 360 hasn’t shown me this so called impressive gaming that is so clamed by Microsoft while the pc is looking amazing for next year crisis ******* hell guys that looks quality I don’t no about you guys but consoles don’t cut it can u program your own mods on consoles no what is this **** we all know pc's are better thats why were pc gamers already and i know it will stay that way from along time
also i just wanted to add something regarding the cell processor the pc will be good as that in a year sure its go 8 cores (well 7 with the reserved one) but im telling you programming for that will be stupid as i cant see where you will need 7 threads this is a gaming machine not a multi tasking pc
Ps: correct me if I’m wrong on anything as it is all from memory (saying that did just bring up something else but i wont go into that)
now come on console fan boys give me some criticism

I have a quite hefty gaming rig and I play now mainly Oblivion. The graphic is actually now better than with Xbox360 because of this mod culture. (Originally they vere very much the same quality) Even the game is better because of some player made mods.

This is advantage and a curse.
If you want to have ultimate gaming experience you have to load some improvement paccages, but the game is so much better...

... If you want to have easy playing experience the the console is better. Just load the game and go... But you can not get those nasty things that "you" peronally thinks are annoying, because the game is not so modable.

summasummarum:

Console: +
cheaper (mostly)
easier to use
console: -
What you get is what you see (WYGWYS) (no upgrades to system or games)

Computer: +
Modable games (some times depending on the game)
more vertisale
computer: -
harder to use
games often more buggy in the beginning (more variables that can go wrong, so many GPU, CPU, sound variations that it's a nightmare...)
You have to be active to make you games better via upgrades
More expensive (mostly)

That may be true, but you missed Chuckshissle's point.

Dollar for dollar, a $499 PS3 will be beat any $499 PC when it comes to games. You don't need to worry about upgrading a console 3 years from now to take full advantage of all the graphics features for a game that will be released in 2009 (unless it's for a different console). That will not be true for PC games who will need to upgrade their GPUs at the very least to play games at the cutting edge.

Don't get me wrong, I prefer to play games on the PC (mostly strategy and a few FPS), but you went around his arguement.

honestly comparing the other things that a PC can do is stupid and isnt even in the same league when your comparing a console. a console is just for games. SO why bother saying oh but you cant burn a cd with a console it is foollish to say these things as most console owners already have a pc or a notebook that can do these things. True hardcore gamers own everything not just one platform.

ALL the current consoles (except maybe the Wii) can be plugged into a Monitor so saying you must have a $2000 dollar HDTV to enjoy your games is pointless, but how many of you can say that your monitor is 50" with a contrast ratio of 10,000 to 1 my samsung HDTV does, but i connect my pc to that as well. so the display statement can go both ways it does not define the platform.

PC games have the advantage that its cheaper to make a game for the PC than a console. Eventually consoles will be able to play WOW and many other MMOs, PC gamers should look to it as a welcome because if a console gamer can play the same game as you on the same server those games will sell more and keep the pc game industry alive as no matter how much a fanboy you are it is taking a hit from previous years and consoles are selling much more. with that said PC games will never die.

The upgrade issue. Of course there will always be a newer console as with any technology. but 400 dollars for an entire new machine seems more bang for buck than a 400 dollar video card that will get bested within six months. but to that fact my radeon 7000 64mb card lasted me 4 years before i decided to upgrade and i was able to play doom 3 and not have a headache saying you must upgrade all the time to be able to play games is false hence why there are minimum requirements on those boxes and if you have the recommended ones you will be happy playing them.

in conclusion true HardCore gamers have everything because they love games not how many FPS their machine can handle that they would virtually never really notice. if there is a game for a platform that is not on yours and it is so awesome that you have to have it then save up and get the platform the only person that kind of looses is the person who wished that game came out for thiers "i would die to have crysis on my system" and then they refuse to get the system to play the game they really want.

I do.

why do game developers dont design their own OS'es built into the games discs? then you just put the cd on your computer and boot directly from the game disc. No need for windows and other stuff, optimized drivers and other stuff. Games could also be saved on the computer's hard disk.
Then the pc would be like a console and the war is over

Don't think anyone has fully said it yet, but even the PS2 Emu out today are still very, poorly done. I've tried them and they are just getting to a point where it's playable with some of the older games for it. EX FFX. And they have been in the making since the PS2 came out. Most are very correct when they say that a PS3 Emu is going to need a hard core system to be used down the road and a good one won't be out until the next gen of PS is out. Not until after the PS2 was released a good solid PS1 emu come out without nearly that many bugs. I rather play my PS1 games on my PC for the fact that any game that uses 3d charters instead of pixel charters looks 100 times better on a nice PC with the details really turned up. Much better then the PS1 emu they added into the PS2.

Tho to play the PS3 in HD your going to need a new TV, can't use any of the Old HD TV's out there. I still haven't seen Sony show off the PS3 in HD because they didn't have a TV with them that supported 1.3 ( I'm sure I'm a little off with the number) standard of HD. Which if I remember correctly is needed to use HD for the PS3. So that just makes the PS3 much more $$$ to use then a current top of the market $1200 PC. I know Sony is trying to aim the PS3 more towards a home ent system just like MS is doing with the Xbox 360. I strongly believe the Xbox 360 is worth the money for it. Tho I'm still don't think the PS3 will be worth the money and the money you have to put into it after to get all the nice extra eye candy out of it. The only reason Sony made the PS3 backwards compatible is because if they didn't people that don't know any better wouldn't run out and just buy it. But then again it is a extremely cheap B-RDVD player.

I don't see to many people willing to drop $2000 to $5000 on a new HD TV just to play the PS3 at the highest res possible. Got to remember most HD TV don't support those high res also unless your willing to pay the extra $ money on them. Then there the extra price tag on blue-ray HDDVD's. Because of the high cost to make them they get passed down the customers at a much higher price point. I wouldn't doubt seeing the BR HDDVD's movies at around a price tag of about $40 and the games around $80 and much higher.

I've personally lost a lot respect for Sony over the years. They didn't deliver what they showed with the PS2. And now with the Blue-ray and all it's DRM and what they plan to do with it. Just gives me a bad feeling about it all. I have the PS2, xbox, and my roommate has the Xbox 360 and we both have very good PCs. But both of us have no plans to get the PS3 for some time. The only game we are looking forward to is FFXII which is being realized on the PS2. I do enjoy consoles, but I rather have a keyboard and mouse in front of me any day over a controller for any type of FPS game out there. I personally don't see the day when the consoles will actually be better then a PC. PC's have so many other functions then just games. I rather put $500 into my PC then put $500 into something that all it does is play games and play B-RDVDs. Just think Sony is in all honesty compeletly lost all contact with comsumers today. They are more worried about lining there houses with gold then actully making something that makes sense and easy to use for the people that will be using it. mainly us the comsumers. But we are to eager to just buy what they offer us then say wait one sec, why do we have to pay for this when the beinfts for us are so small compared to what beinfts you get out of it. At least MS did some very nice things for the Xbox 360 that really do make the comsumer have more control over it. And not with a very high price tag as well. ( Can't believe I actully said that about MS)

That's just my two cents.