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To those of you suggesting that he get an X-fi:

Keep in mind he's saying he has an $1800 7.1 speaker system. I did a lot of research when I got my bookshelf speakers, and I found out that unless your card supports DDL you can't get true surround sound through any digital output (SPDIF on creative cards, for example) unless your source is surround sound. The optical/spdif digital outputs on any of creative's cards are only pass-throughs.

If you wanted to game...unless your game supported Dolby Digital sound, which from what I am told there are very few, you would only get stereo sound. If you are watching DVD Movies with Dolby Sound, then you could get up to whatever your source movie was...be it 5.1 or 7.1 sound.

"ASIO 2.0 support at >>>16-bit/44.1kHz<<<, 16-bit/48kHz, 24-bit/44.1kHz 24-bit/48kHz and 24-bit/96kHz with direct monitoring."

Problem Solved.

I've never seen connecting a computer to a home stereo work very well and sometimes it's actually damaged one or the other to some degree. RCA or SPDIF jacks should be ok but I'd avoid it if possible. If you're only using if for pass through then why not just go straight from player to reciver. With the entrance of Klipsh into the computer speaker market I have not owned a home stereo system. I updated the wife's sound card to a X-Fi xtreme music paired with some Klipsch 5.1's and it sounds better than the Denon home system I used to own. The only thing I've considered is upgrading the sats from the 5.1 to some of their home theater speakers someday. I advise against my customers connecting the comp to a reciever.

Hehe you guys may like this.

I have had a Marantz 2220b powering a pair of Technics SB-CR77 3 way speakers (that from the 1970s) hooked up to my computer for the last 2 years and I have not done any damage to either system (this is on audio integrated to the mobo BTW). It sounds pretty darn good for using a receiver built in 1975 and running on board audio.

Funny thing is that the reciever actually was my moms (i am in my late teens) and it has essentially become the centerpiece of my rooms stero system. It is hooked up to my DVD recorder, Computer, VCR, and Cable Box, my tape deck is on the same RCA cables that my computer feeds and for a time there was a record player in there too. I absolutly love it. I probably wouldnt even replace it with something moern just because it looks so nice (i am into the retro thing).

WHAT KIND OF WEED ARE YOU SMOKING!!!!!! A DUCKING SET OF COMPUTER SPEAKERS SOUNDING BETTER THEN A DENNON!!!!!!

if your talking about games, then that makes sence. you cant transmit in-game surround through s/pdif. but for music...... what the hell. creative dac's suck, and they resample. and you pass it through kmangler... so your audio is being resampled twice... as apposed to the FREAKING DENNON!!!! ITS DENNON!!!! unless you hooked up some crappy speakers to it, you are deffinately on something, or the biggest auido n00b I have ever heard of

a hundred dollar sound card designed for games sounding better then a >$1000 dennon reciever designed for fidelity......

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

Hahaha, I know. The only way you could damage components was if you hooked up two inputs to eachother.... which knowing 4Aces he probably did...

anyways, its nice to know people on this forum know the difference between game sound and music sound..... I dont like to flame, but if someone is blatently lying, I'm sorry... I have to say something

You might be confusing some isolated incidents of Creative's 3.5mm high voltage digital minijack as some sort of industry wide problem with all outputs, all soundcard manufacturers, and all computers.

As you [should] know, not everyone uses Creative's 3.5mm digital minijack and converts that to toslink or coaxial. 3.5mm digital minijacks are the exception, not the rule, to digital connections, and most people are using standard voltage SPDIF toslink or coaxial outputs to connect to their receiver.

actually, you SHOULD have a sound card with ASIO or Kernal Streaming. AC97 audio is probably the worse audio I have ever heard, with the exception of AM. AC97 resamples, and it also gets resampled in a component of windows called kmixer (which can only be bypassed when using asio or kernal streaming)

if you want to know why resampling is bad, here is a very rough example

lets say a certain sound is like a number (its not, but you'll get the principle)

freebird, by lynard skynard, just so happens to equal 4.661

when you resample, the sample rate can only support one number after the decimal place, so it round the number up to 4.7. 4.7 is VERY different from 4.661. its close, and you can tell what about what the number used to be, but it lacks the detail, and exactness

when you resample audio, the same happens, you can still tell what it is, it just lacks detail.

it doesnt matter if you are upsampling or downsampling, alot of the data is lost, and no ammount of DSP can bring it back

so no, integrated audio will not work if you care about sound quality, and many sound cards wont either.

IMPORTANT NOTE-- YOU CAN HAVE A SOUND CARD FOR GAMING, OR FIDELITY, NOT BOTH. I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GAMING SOUNDCARDS, AND DONT LISTEN TO MY RANTING IF YOU ARE A SERRIOUS GAMER. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO DVD AND CD AUDIO THROUGH DECENT SPEAKERS THOUGH, AN EXTRA TWENTEY BUCKS ON MY CARD IS VERY WELL SPENT