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<one in every crowd>

"Stop processing more rules" won't be available if "Delete from server" is
selected.

"Delete it" option just moves it to Deleted Items and yes, if "Stop
processsing more rules" isn't also checked, the next rule will be applied.

NEXT??
--
~PAÞ


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Even if the first rule results in the message being deleted?
>
>
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u$q4MycrFHA.3080@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Message Rules are applied hierarchically (if that's a word). Simply
> > put, if a rule doesn't end in "Stop processing more rules", the next
> > rule *will* be applied to the message.
> >
> > Message Rules Tips
> > http://www.insideoe.com/tips/rules.htm
> >
> > Why doesn't my rule work?
> > http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#rules
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
> >
> > PCR wrote:
> > > Oh. OK, OK, I'm sure he will! Can you make a definitive statement
> > > about "stop processing more rules", or must Terhune & I begin
> > > extensive testing of it in 2007...?...
> > >
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] -us;217243
> > > OLEXP: Message Rules in Outlook Express May Not Work as Expected
> > >
> > >
> > > > <sniff> I was expecting to see Moonraker posting in an OE-specific
> > > > newsgroup with further questions about OE...
> > > > --
> > > > ~PAÞ
> > > >
> > > > PCR wrote:
> > > > > ...Terhune &/or Bear were quite stingy!

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Oh! You're talking about Local Email, not News. I was only talking about
News rules.

Yes, when applying such a rule to local email account, you'd want to stop
processing after deleting. I don't have any rules for deletion of local
email. Not sure I can imagine why I'd ever use one.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> <one in every crowd>
>
> "Stop processing more rules" won't be available if "Delete from server" is
> selected.
>
> "Delete it" option just moves it to Deleted Items and yes, if "Stop
> processsing more rules" isn't also checked, the next rule will be applied.
>
> NEXT??
> --
> ~PAÞ
>
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Even if the first rule results in the message being deleted?
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:u$q4MycrFHA.3080@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> > Message Rules are applied hierarchically (if that's a word). Simply
>> > put, if a rule doesn't end in "Stop processing more rules", the next
>> > rule *will* be applied to the message.
>> >
>> > Message Rules Tips
>> > http://www.insideoe.com/tips/rules.htm
>> >
>> > Why doesn't my rule work?
>> > http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#rules
>> > --
>> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
>> >
>> > PCR wrote:
>> > > Oh. OK, OK, I'm sure he will! Can you make a definitive statement
>> > > about "stop processing more rules", or must Terhune & I begin
>> > > extensive testing of it in 2007...?...
>> > >
>> > > http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] -us;217243
>> > > OLEXP: Message Rules in Outlook Express May Not Work as Expected
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > <sniff> I was expecting to see Moonraker posting in an OE-specific
>> > > > newsgroup with further questions about OE...
>> > > > --
>> > > > ~PAÞ
>> > > >
>> > > > PCR wrote:
>> > > > > ...Terhune &/or Bear were quite stingy!
>

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Right. Checking my own "Delete from server" rule, yea, every other
action, including "Stop processing more rules", becomes shaded &
uncheckable (whether or not that's a word). So, it isn't an issue with
that action. STILL, as the site I think says, such a rule should be
moved to the top of all other rules, or it won't be deleted at all.

OK, definitively then (so, next decade, me 'n Terhune won't have to test
it), any action that moves a message from one folder to another,
including "Delete it", must also be checked "Stop processing more
rules", OR it will NOT be moved or deleted at all. OK, thanks. Dundat
was right, then, & he's OK by me. Could be others are after him, though!

Terhune: There is a "Delete it" in NEWS rules too, just not a "Move" or
"Copy" (too bad).


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| <one in every crowd>
|
| "Stop processing more rules" won't be available if "Delete from
server" is
| selected.
|
| "Delete it" option just moves it to Deleted Items and yes, if "Stop
| processsing more rules" isn't also checked, the next rule will be
applied.
|
| NEXT??
| --
| ~PAÞ
|
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| > Even if the first rule results in the message being deleted?
| >
| >
| > "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:u$q4MycrFHA.3080@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| > > Message Rules are applied hierarchically (if that's a word).
Simply
| > > put, if a rule doesn't end in "Stop processing more rules", the
next
| > > rule *will* be applied to the message.
| > >
| > > Message Rules Tips
| > > http://www.insideoe.com/tips/rules.htm
| > >
| > > Why doesn't my rule work?
| > > http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#rules
| > > --
| > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
| > >
| > > PCR wrote:
| > > > Oh. OK, OK, I'm sure he will! Can you make a definitive
statement
| > > > about "stop processing more rules", or must Terhune & I begin
| > > > extensive testing of it in 2007...?...
| > > >
| > > > http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] -us;217243
| > > > OLEXP: Message Rules in Outlook Express May Not Work as Expected
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > > <sniff> I was expecting to see Moonraker posting in an
OE-specific
| > > > > newsgroup with further questions about OE...
| > > > > --
| > > > > ~PAÞ
| > > > >
| > > > > PCR wrote:
| > > > > > ...Terhune &/or Bear were quite stingy!
|

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Would I lie to you?

PCR wrote:
> Right. Checking my own "Delete from server" rule, yea, every other
> action, including "Stop processing more rules", becomes shaded &
> uncheckable (whether or not that's a word)...

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Don't mention Vista to me! I haven't the time and my damned hardware is way
to persnickety. But when I get a moment to breathe, I'm going to install a
decent RAID controller and stop using this garbage Highpoint thingy on my
ABIT AT7 board, since I *think* it's at the root of most of my problems. I'm
also tempted to replace all the RAM with Crucial, since I've had nothing but
problems with the stuff that came with the machine three years ago unless I
throttle the various BUS speed settings. Not only would I like to be able to
install new OS partitions without having to spend days or weeks tweaking
this or that in order to finish the job, I'd like to familiarize myself with
SBS, since I'll be installing a server/network for my brother when I get
back.

I'm hoping to get at least a few days to play with Vista before the Summit.
In fact, my brother is sending me a laptop to rebuild and test some new
database software, and told me to feel free to take it to the Summit. (I
have three laptops, all of them "given" to me. Guess how well they work.)
Might just see if Vista will install to it before I leave.

Before the month is out, I also have dozens of hours of data entry and
database manipulation to finish for a client (this one's my uncle) using
ExpensAble, not to mention yard work, now that it's cooled off a bit here.
Think I can get it all done, <g>?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Naw, I get your drift. I'm on a small handful already, and only two with
>> high traffic. I like to review the threads for keepers before I delete
>> them manually.
>
> You wouldn't want to review *any* of the ones on the list I have in mind,
> believe me. <w>
>
>> In short, what little performance hit is brought on by having lots of
>> large local folders is something I got used to long ago. (Is that a
>> mouthful or what!?!)
>
> And wait till you see Mail Client Formerly Known As OE in Vista Beta2!
> --
> ~PA Bear
> www.endingasentencewithaprepositio [...] otput2.mvp

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Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Don't mention Vista to me! I haven't the time and my damned hardware is
> way to persnickety...

I'm not bothering with it until Beta 2, at the earliest. IE7b1 is bad
enough.

> ...not to mention yard work, now that it's cooled off a bit here.

Same here but my concerns about the appearance of my yard pale in comparison
to what those along the Gulf Coast are going through right now. (Here in
farm country, my "suburban" neighbors mow once a week. I haven't mowed in
over 2 weeks. Guess what? Two days after they mow, you can't tell the
difference, except mine is greener and weed-free.)
--
~Robear

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http://video.msn.com > Specials > Hurricane Katrina >

- Gulf Coast devastation: WLBT TV reporter Coyt Bailey narrates a 26-minute
helicopter flight showing the wide swath of the Mississippi coast destroyed
by Hurricane Katrina. [Unspeakably awesome]

- Levees breach in New Orleans : Engineers are discussing a potential fix to
holes in the levees which have allowed floodwaters to cover most of the city
[Flooding has stopped because the water level has equalized with that of the
lake...and they're gonna pump it back *into* the lake??]

http://video.msn.com > News-Weather > NBC News >

- Story becomes Rescue Mission: Reporter was on his way to try to find out
what was happening at a hospital in New Orleans when he ended up on a rescue
trip. [heartbreaking]

- Help arrives in Biloxi: A Salvation Army truck offers people in Biloxi
their first food in two days.

- Thousands stranded in Mississippi: A long line of people waited patiently
to buy bare essentials at a Wal-Mart in Biloxi [compare to looting in NOLA]

{{{{[[[[Kelly & Family]]]]}}}}
--
~Robear

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> I'm trying hard not to allow my naturally depressive tendencies and
> well-developed empathy from totally paralyzing me with regard to the Gulf
> states. I'm only having so-so success, but I can't bring myself to turn
> off CNN and watch (or rather, listen to) anything else.

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Very sad,very sad.I hope that all that were affected will have some normalcy in their life after

--
Peter

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"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news52aZ4orFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> http://video.msn.com > Specials > Hurricane Katrina >
>
> - Gulf Coast devastation: WLBT TV reporter Coyt Bailey narrates a 26-minute
> helicopter flight showing the wide swath of the Mississippi coast destroyed
> by Hurricane Katrina. [Unspeakably awesome]
>
> - Levees breach in New Orleans : Engineers are discussing a potential fix to
> holes in the levees which have allowed floodwaters to cover most of the city
> [Flooding has stopped because the water level has equalized with that of the
> lake...and they're gonna pump it back *into* the lake??]
>
> http://video.msn.com > News-Weather > NBC News >
>
> - Story becomes Rescue Mission: Reporter was on his way to try to find out
> what was happening at a hospital in New Orleans when he ended up on a rescue
> trip. [heartbreaking]
>
> - Help arrives in Biloxi: A Salvation Army truck offers people in Biloxi
> their first food in two days.
>
> - Thousands stranded in Mississippi: A long line of people waited patiently
> to buy bare essentials at a Wal-Mart in Biloxi [compare to looting in NOLA]
>
> {{{{[[[[Kelly & Family]]]]}}}}
> --
> ~Robear
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> I'm trying hard not to allow my naturally depressive tendencies and
>> well-developed empathy from totally paralyzing me with regard to the Gulf
>> states. I'm only having so-so success, but I can't bring myself to turn
>> off CNN and watch (or rather, listen to) anything else.
>

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It is a terrible situation and I hope Kelly and her family are OK, and of
course that goes for anyone else in the area that are known in these
groups.
It makes me realise how lucky I am to live where I do and not have to
suffer these catastrophes.
Joan


PA Bear wrote:
> http://video.msn.com > Specials > Hurricane Katrina >
>
>snip>

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jkb wrote:

> I think that somewhere there's a option for keeping messages no longer
> available on the server, but sorry I've forgotten where.

If you think of where you saw that jkb could you let me know.
I don't think that option is available that I can see?

Rick

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Money would also have been better spent on evacuating those poor families,
prior to the hurricane strike, that didn't have the financial means to get
out of the area, and hence perished.

Jon


"-rwxrw-r--" <nostop@stopspam.com> wrote in message
news:xQERe.350173$s54.299873@pd7tw2no...
> Hopefully this catastrophe will inspire Americans to start asking some
> serious questions about why this was allowed to happen. A good starting
> point is to get a little history on how your federal government diverted
> funds from fixing the levees in New Orleans that could have prevented so
> much damage to people's lives. Here's the story ...
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0831-04.htm

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"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23r99EhxrFHA.2996@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Well, besides the fact that the levee system is in great part why New
> Orleans is below sea level (petroleum extraction apparently plays a part,
> also), it is an even more important player in the erosion of the
Mississippi
> River Delta. Hard to say if a healthy delta would have blocked out enough
of
> the strength of the storm to protect NO, but it's clearly demonstrable
that
> the location of New Orleans goes strongly against nature. No one is likely
> to advocate the abandonment of the city successfully, but it was, in fact,
a
> disaster waiting to happen. Yes, it would have been a disaster in any
case,
> but it was greatly exacerbated by the geological situation, which
situation
> *was* in great part, man made.

I vacationed in N'Orleans/Slidell and Biloxi a long time ago.
{Ironically, in an area built over hundreds upon hundreds of pipelines,
I found myself on the 26-mile long Lake Pontchartrain bridge,
in a Chevy Suburban, hauling a 35-foot long travel trailer,
almost out of gas. That's the same bridge that is now missing
all those sections}.

Loved the food and the area, and thought briefly about relocating,
but demurred after reading an article which spelled out EXACTLY
what was going to happen to N'Orleans one day.
And it just did happen. EXACTLY.

With one exception. I heard of one computer simulation
that postulated a death count of over 100,000 people.
{Amazingly, Wolf Blitzer on CNN never even blinked.
In fact, he totally ignored the guy. or, more likely,
he wasn't even listeningto what he had to say}.

As outrageous and inconceivable as it may seem
to even suggest, they should NOT rebuild.

N'Orleans shouldn't be where it is.

If they rebuild, and they probably will, it will happen again.
They can rebuild the levees to withstand Force 5,
and they'll get hit with a Force 6.

Lakes can be dammed, but, unfortunately,
numbering systems can be damned.

Nature will have its way.

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Kelly lived there? I hope she is one of the million that were evacuated
or the 25,000 left in the Superdome. What a catastrophe, whether it is
poor location at fault or no! But the looting afterwards gives the thing
a bit of a stink! Can't they just wait for the aid/billions on it's way?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news52aZ4orFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| http://video.msn.com > Specials > Hurricane Katrina >
|
| - Gulf Coast devastation: WLBT TV reporter Coyt Bailey narrates a
26-minute
| helicopter flight showing the wide swath of the Mississippi coast
destroyed
| by Hurricane Katrina. [Unspeakably awesome]
|
| - Levees breach in New Orleans : Engineers are discussing a potential
fix to
| holes in the levees which have allowed floodwaters to cover most of
the city
| [Flooding has stopped because the water level has equalized with that
of the
| lake...and they're gonna pump it back *into* the lake??]
|
| http://video.msn.com > News-Weather > NBC News >
|
| - Story becomes Rescue Mission: Reporter was on his way to try to find
out
| what was happening at a hospital in New Orleans when he ended up on a
rescue
| trip. [heartbreaking]
|
| - Help arrives in Biloxi: A Salvation Army truck offers people in
Biloxi
| their first food in two days.
|
| - Thousands stranded in Mississippi: A long line of people waited
patiently
| to buy bare essentials at a Wal-Mart in Biloxi [compare to looting in
NOLA]
|
| {{{{[[[[Kelly & Family]]]]}}}}
| --
| ~Robear
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| > I'm trying hard not to allow my naturally depressive tendencies and
| > well-developed empathy from totally paralyzing me with regard to the
Gulf
| > states. I'm only having so-so success, but I can't bring myself to
turn
| > off CNN and watch (or rather, listen to) anything else.
|

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PCR wrote:
> Kelly lived there? I hope she is one of the million that were
> evacuated or the 25,000 left in the Superdome. What a catastrophe,
> whether it is poor location at fault or no! But the looting
> afterwards gives the thing a bit of a stink! Can't they just wait for
> the aid/billions on it's way?
>

You try living in a cesspool with no clean water for 4 days, and lets
see how you would fare!

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

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The conditions can only explain part of peoples actions.
There is no excuse for the looting of luxury items as well as the shooting
and other truly criminal activities.
Some may make excuses for their actions, but they are nothing more than
excuses.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> PCR wrote:
>> Kelly lived there? I hope she is one of the million that were
>> evacuated or the 25,000 left in the Superdome. What a catastrophe,
>> whether it is poor location at fault or no! But the looting
>> afterwards gives the thing a bit of a stink! Can't they just wait for
>> the aid/billions on it's way?
>>
>
> You try living in a cesspool with no clean water for 4 days, and lets see
> how you would fare!
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
>

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PCR wrote:
> Nah. They aren't taking just food & toilet bowls. Anyhow, there are
> helicopters & busses ready to take them to safety, to the Astrodome.
> It's a sin what is happening there! Instead of helping in the rescue
> effort, they pillage & loot! It's a stink! But I hope Kelly is OK.

I hope your karma catches up to you in this life.

--
Peace!
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Self-anointed Moderator
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

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It's all Bush's fault...he didn't make the dikes strong enough, he
didn't make them all evacuate, he didn't check to see if the Astrodome
roof was strong enough, he didn't make them practice evacuations,
he didn't make them stock up on food and water, he didn't...oh well,
you can see that he's to blame for it all, and I'm sure they will.


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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| Nah. They aren't taking just food & toilet bowls. Anyhow, there are
| helicopters & busses ready to take them to safety, to the Astrodome.
| It's a sin what is happening there! Instead of helping in the rescue
| effort, they pillage & loot! It's a stink! But I hope Kelly is OK.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
| "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
| newsIsPz0yrFHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
|| PCR wrote:
|| > Kelly lived there? I hope she is one of the million that were
|| > evacuated or the 25,000 left in the Superdome. What a catastrophe,
|| > whether it is poor location at fault or no! But the looting
|| > afterwards gives the thing a bit of a stink! Can't they just wait
| for
|| > the aid/billions on it's way?
|| >
||
|| You try living in a cesspool with no clean water for 4 days, and lets
|| see how you would fare!
||
|| --
|| Peace!
|| Kurt
|| Self-anointed Moderator
|| microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
|| http://microscum.com/mscommunity
|| "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
|| "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
||
||
|
|

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Not the Astrodome, the other one! I'm SURE he gave the Astrodome the
once over before sitting under it as a ball club owner.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"MarcusD" <fakefakefake@fakefake.net> wrote in message
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| It's all Bush's fault...he didn't make the dikes strong enough, he
| didn't make them all evacuate, he didn't check to see if the Astrodome
| roof was strong enough, he didn't make them practice evacuations,
| he didn't make them stock up on food and water, he didn't...oh well,
| you can see that he's to blame for it all, and I'm sure they will.
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| newslcr3dzrFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| | Nah. They aren't taking just food & toilet bowls. Anyhow, there are
| | helicopters & busses ready to take them to safety, to the Astrodome.
| | It's a sin what is happening there! Instead of helping in the rescue
| | effort, they pillage & loot! It's a stink! But I hope Kelly is OK.
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| | pcrrcp@netzero.net
| | "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
message
| | newsIsPz0yrFHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| || PCR wrote:
| || > Kelly lived there? I hope she is one of the million that were
| || > evacuated or the 25,000 left in the Superdome. What a
catastrophe,
| || > whether it is poor location at fault or no! But the looting
| || > afterwards gives the thing a bit of a stink! Can't they just wait
| | for
| || > the aid/billions on it's way?
| || >
| ||
| || You try living in a cesspool with no clean water for 4 days, and
lets
| || see how you would fare!
| ||
| || --
| || Peace!
| || Kurt
| || Self-anointed Moderator
| || microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
| || http://microscum.com/mscommunity
| || "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
| || "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
| ||
| ||
| |
| |
|
|

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PCR wrote:
> Foo! I just SPENT ten days packing 16 layers of tar & rubber into 250
> contractor garbage bags that a couple of Al-Qaida roofers left behind,
> one of them named Yar. They ran off on me! NOW, I am installing the
> skylight myself! And all of this before I ever said a word about
> looters!

And that has nothing to do with the human tradegy going on in New
Orleans, and the rest of the northern Gulf Coast.

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Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> You need to make a long leap or another of your assumptions to think
> I do not "understand and empathize with what these people are going
> through." Read my post again.

I did.

> I said nothing about necessities, what I did say "luxury items as
> well as the shooting..."

And you accused me of excusing looting luxury items. And I never did.
Quote me, if you can.

> That is not food or water.

Or dry clothes. But most of the looting I saw was not luxury items.
And I suspect that only a very small number of people are going after
"luxury items." Most people are just trying to survive, after being
left behind.

> I would NEVER steal the luxuries or commit senseless crimes if I was
> in that position or worse.

I didn't suggest you would. And neither is the majority of people left
behind in New Orleans to fend for themselves.

> The "truly criminal activities" refers to senseless criminal activity
> of stealing luxuries, assault etc, those totally unnecessary for
> health and safety.

Are you trying to suggest that the majority of people are looting luxury
items? It sure sounds like it!

> But again you assumed as you need to twist something to suit your own
> agenda.

And you assumed that I was excusing the looting of luxury items, which I
never did.

> Or perhaps you deny any luxuries are stolen.

I'm sure some were. But not by the majority of people just trying to
survive. I didn't see many TVs at the convention center. I did see
dead bodies there.

You seem to be blaming all the victims of Katrina for the actions of a
very few.

> I deliberately did not refer to the essentials in my post because I
> can understand their position.
> But I doubt I would steal those if I were in their position, there
> are other options, such as getting a message to property owner,
> keeping a record of what was taken from where etc.

ROFL! You are insane.

> There were qualifications in my post, read it again for the first
> time, this time make an effort to understand.
>
> You hope "watching your family starve", you are now hoping bad for my
> family.
> Simply because you disagree with me, you now hope tragedy befall many
> others.
> You have gone even lower than I thought possible.

Cool. I always knew you were the type that blames victims for their
circumstances, and you lived up to my expectations!

> Good bye Kurt.
> I would NEVER return the "favour" of wishing that or even far less on
> you, your family or anyone else for that matter.

Why should you? I understand and empathize with human suffering. I
don't need to live it to understand. You do.

>
> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:uU8ew9zrFHA.3080@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>> As usual you show your own character by hoping bad comes to others.
>>
>> No. So it is a bad situation these poor people are in? It didn't
>> seem you felt that way in your last post.
>>
>>> Not at all out of character for you.
>>
>> Its not. I try as much as possible to put myself in other people's
>> shoes.
>>> I would not commit those crimes.
>>
>> You and your family were stranded for days, surrounded by flood
>> waters, and only had the clothes on your back, and you are telling
>> me you would not go into a store a get some bottled water for your
>> wife and kids? You would watch your family dehydrate and starve,
>> rather than commit
>> a crime?
>>
>>> Apparently you would since you seem to think it is justified in the
>>> situation.
>>
>> Not all of it. There is no need to loot TVs, but I haven't seen many
>> shots of that. Dry clothes, after walking for hours the a flooded
>> cesspool. Bottled water, after going days without. Yeah, Some of
>> the looting is definitely necessary.
>>
>>> As usual you display a low standard.
>>
>> No, I understand that life is more precious than than property. And
>> looting a store, that will be demolished after the when the flood
>> waters receed, for food, water, and dry clothes is no crime in my
>> estimation.
>>> Or perhaps you did not read my post before commenting, also normal
>>> for you. Read my post again for the first time.
>>
>> I did. And I really do hope that you find yourself poor, and left
>> behind, surrounded by a cesspool, with no clean water or food or dry
>> clothing, watching your family starve and dehydrate, watching people
>> die around you. Why do I hope that? Because that would be the only
>> way for you to
>> understand and empathize with what these people are going through.
>>
>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
>>> message news:%
>>>>
>>>> I only hope that you find yourself in a similar situation someday
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:09:17 GMT, -rwxrw-r-- <nostop@stopspam.com>
wrote:

>Hopefully this catastrophe will inspire Americans to start asking some
>serious questions about why this was allowed to happen. A good starting
>point is to get a little history on how your federal government diverted
>funds from fixing the levees in New Orleans that could have prevented so
>much damage to people's lives.

While it is a terrible tragedy, everyone knew that a big hurricane
would breach the levees and flood the "Easy" someday. The folks
living there took a gamble living below sea level...and lost.

You're probably right that stronger levees whould have held, since the
hurricane did not hit NO directly. But what would the cost of
strengthening them have been? At what point do we stop bailing out
people who choose to live in a dangerous spot?

I expect the city will be rebuilt, and at least the French Quarter was
mostly spared any damage. Perhaps the lowest lying areas should be
reserved for parkland.


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PCR wrote:
> Well, no, but Karma has nothing to do with it, either! OK, bye.

LOL! Sure does, when you blame the victims for their circumstances.

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Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Kelly lives in Terrebonne Parish (exactly where in Terrebonne, I don't
> know.) It's west of NO.
> http://tinyurl.com/duwwf
>
> Looks to me like the main reason we haven't heard from her is the
> lack of electricity. We'll just have to wait for her to poke her head
> out and wave (some time soon, I hope.)
>

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Houm [...] 8366&hl=en

West, but south of NO.

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She lives in Gray, Louisiana 15 miles Northwest of Houma

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message news:utW3$A1rFHA.3092@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Kelly lives in Terrebonne Parish (exactly where in Terrebonne, I don't
>> know.) It's west of NO.
>> http://tinyurl.com/duwwf
>>
>> Looks to me like the main reason we haven't heard from her is the
>> lack of electricity. We'll just have to wait for her to poke her head
>> out and wave (some time soon, I hope.)
>>
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Houm [...] 8366&hl=en
>
> West, but south of NO.
>
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I hope that's it, & she hasn't been whooshed away to OZ! I guess all is
well. Whose surname is Theriot? There are two of them on that map & one
Chauvin!


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"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uXHom40rFHA.308@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Kelly lives in Terrebonne Parish (exactly where in Terrebonne, I don't
| know.) It's west of NO.
| http://tinyurl.com/duwwf
|
| Looks to me like the main reason we haven't heard from her is the lack
of
| electricity. We'll just have to wait for her to poke her head out and
wave
| (some time soon, I hope.)
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:eH%23bIvyrFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| > Kelly lived there? I hope she is one of the million that were
evacuated
| > or the 25,000 left in the Superdome. What a catastrophe, whether it
is
| > poor location at fault or no! But the looting afterwards gives the
thing
| > a bit of a stink! Can't they just wait for the aid/billions on it's
way?
|
|

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PCR wrote:
> I only said the looting afterwards stinks. Some of the actual victims
> are getting victimized twice that way!

It will all be written off as storm damage. Most of the food would have
just rotten anyway. Better looting food and water than having an even
higher death toll.

So I hope one day you find out for yourself.

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