Thinking XP

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If it doesn't have a COA then it's not genuine. See here:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources [...] fault.mspx

The main problem in dealing with these suppliers is that you pay your money
and they just don't deliver. At least that's what I'm told ;-)
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Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"E_Net_Rider" <E_Net_Rider@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I was searching for a price on XP pro and came across a site that had some
> good prices. But it said if COA was needed to buy a different item. Ad
> said
> that product ID to load was included. Something wrong with this?
> I emailed for info but never heard back. Is the COA required for
> registering? and isn't it required to keep XP running?
>
> Norman
>
>

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It sure did smell funny to me and that's why I had to ask about it. One note
is that they claim the cheap price is because it is an OEM dumped from Dell.
Seems to me that OEM don't always include a certificate of authenticity.
Norman

"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
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> If it doesn't have a COA then it's not genuine. See here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources [...] fault.mspx
>
> The main problem in dealing with these suppliers is that you pay your
money
> and they just don't deliver. At least that's what I'm told ;-)
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "E_Net_Rider" <E_Net_Rider@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eVGdjeGfFHA.2372@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >I was searching for a price on XP pro and came across a site that had
some
> > good prices. But it said if COA was needed to buy a different item. Ad
> > said
> > that product ID to load was included. Something wrong with this?
> > I emailed for info but never heard back. Is the COA required for
> > registering? and isn't it required to keep XP running?
> >
> > Norman
> >
> >
>
>

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E_Net_Rider wrote:
> How much is super cheap?
> I have been considering Pro, but haven't really found advice as to whether
> it is worth the extra money.
> Norman
> "Rex" <Rex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>>They are tossing XP out at super cheap prices where
>>I live, (retailers) I guess its already run its course and attention
>>is going to be given to 'LongHorn'.
>>
>>..Rex..
>>
>>"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
>>news:eskUdoGfFHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>If it doesn't have a COA then it's not genuine. See here:
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/resources/howtotell/ww/default.mspx
>>>
>>>The main problem in dealing with these suppliers is that you pay your
>>
>>money
>>
>>>and they just don't deliver. At least that's what I'm told ;-)
>>>--
>>>Jeff Richards
>>>MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>>>"E_Net_Rider" <E_Net_Rider@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:eVGdjeGfFHA.2372@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>I was searching for a price on XP pro and came across a site that had
>>>
>>some
>>
>>>>good prices. But it said if COA was needed to buy a different item. Ad
>>>>said
>>>>that product ID to load was included. Something wrong with this?
>>>>I emailed for info but never heard back. Is the COA required for
>>>>registering? and isn't it required to keep XP running?
>>>>
>>>>Norman

Hypothesis:
It don't matter where you beg, borrow, download, buy, steal the CD and
the bits thereon.
What matters is that you have a legal COA with which to register it.
True? False?
mike


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Not quite. Registration doesn't affect your use of XP. However XP requires
activation, and if it's not activated it will stop working. Exactly what is
required to ensure effective activation could only be answered by the
experts in the XP newsgroups. The COA is your tangible evidence of an
authentic (ie, not copied) product.
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"mike" <spamme0@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> E_Net_Rider wrote:
> snip <
>
> What matters is that you have a legal COA with which to register it.
> True? False?
> mike
>

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Jeff Richards wrote:
> Not quite. Registration doesn't affect your use of XP. However XP requires
> activation, and if it's not activated it will stop working. Exactly what is
> required to ensure effective activation could only be answered by the
> experts in the XP newsgroups. The COA is your tangible evidence of an
> authentic (ie, not copied) product.

My COA is evidence that I have a COA. If it is "valid" including, but
not necessarily limited to being "legally acquired in accordance with
the licencing terms", and being accepted by M$ for activation, I should
be good to go.

Whether the bits came from a CD manufactured with holographic images
by M$, was pirated off the internet, or typed in by monkeys should be
irrelevant. As long as you have that "valid" COA (and a shotgun),
ain't nobody gonna try to tell you you can't use the bits.

Just to be clear, I used the word "valid".
What you buy off the internet may or may not be valid.

My original statement stands. Never, EVER upgrade hardware, software,
your automobile, your spouse, nothing...unless it won't do something
that you absolutely must have. The grass is always gonna be greener...
mike

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"Rex" <Rex@hotmail.com> wrote:

>They are tossing XP out at super cheap prices where
>I live, (retailers) I guess its already run its course and attention
>is going to be given to 'LongHorn'.
>

Somebody is in for a long wait then, because Longhorn has yet to even
begin widespread beta testing. Most pundits are anticipating that
Longhorn may reach the market by the fall of 2006.


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The COA has nothing to do with activation. You could have a valid COA
(indicating that you have a genuine copy of Windows) but you might run into
activation problems if someone else has already activated your copy of
Windows. Similarly, you might have lost your COA, so you can't prove your
copy of Windows is genuine, but that won't affect whether or not you can
activate it. The rest of your comments aren't relevant to anything I said.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"mike" <spamme0@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> snip <
>
> My COA is evidence that I have a COA. If it is "valid" including, but not
> necessarily limited to being "legally acquired in accordance with the
> licencing terms", and being accepted by M$ for activation, I should be
> good to go.
>
> Whether the bits came from a CD manufactured with holographic images
> by M$, was pirated off the internet, or typed in by monkeys should be
> irrelevant. As long as you have that "valid" COA (and a shotgun),
> ain't nobody gonna try to tell you you can't use the bits.
>
> Just to be clear, I used the word "valid".
> What you buy off the internet may or may not be valid.
>
> My original statement stands. Never, EVER upgrade hardware, software,
> your automobile, your spouse, nothing...unless it won't do something that
> you absolutely must have. The grass is always gonna be greener...
> mike
>
> --
> Return address is VALID but some sites block emails
> with links. Delete this sig when replying.
> .
> Wanted, PCMCIA SCSI Card for HP m820 CDRW.
> FS 500MHz Tek DSOscilloscope TDS540 Make Offer
> Wanted 12" LCD for Compaq Armada 7770MT.
> Bunch of stuff For Sale and Wanted at the link below.
> MAKE THE OBVIOUS CHANGES TO THE LINK
> ht<removethis>tp://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Monitor/4710/
>