Intel's Clovertown revealed

Recently, IDF in Taiwan revealed Intel's first generation quad cores, Clovertown. It's news and benchmark can be found here

http://translate.google.com/transl [...] uage_tools

The engineering sample of Clovertown scored 362 on Cinbench 9.5 for single operation @ 2GHz. A 2GHz Opteron 246 got the exact same score for the same test.

http://www.2cpu.com/review.php?id=110&page=6

Doesn't Clovertown use Intel's NGMA? How come its test score is exactly the same as a 3 year old single core Opteron?

On a side note, if you take a look at Kentsfield's architecture, it is consisted of two Conroe core, glued together with a single FSB, which is similar to P-D's approach. However, hasn't that approach been determined inferior to AMD's crossbar design? If Intel knows it is inferior than AMD's design, why do they keep on using it for their future generation processors?

The only thing going through my mind when I saw the picture of the Clovertown chip diagram was, "That MCM is going to make one HUGE die!" I bet that will be over 300mm^2, easily.

quad core hmm

those things must be massive


and i thought my AMD 64 939 was massive with only 512 of cache =/

LOL, Cinebech was probably updated a lot since then. And the good thing about it is that it's a two way system quad core . Single core performance simply doesn't need to be high. Because the add of another core(2 in fact) will simply turn the ballance. I don't expect to see the 2.4 ghz barrier passed by quad core CPUs untill 2008. The gains of having such a beast should be considerable. Consider the advantage of having dual over single core. It'll be the same case here. And of course they'll be expensive as hell.

2P 8 thread's score is only 4.67 times 2P 1 thread score. i think that said something about intel's FSB approach and Kentsfield's effiency.

we'll see how it really performs when compares to amd's own quad core, featuring on-die memory controller, crossbar, and HTT.

intel is going to lose the server market, again.

Ten times faster? Bwhahaha, I will give Intel credit where it's due, but I won't give ANY company 10x better than an ES.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

Considering that Merom, using half the FSB speed and also not using DIB, outperforms AMDs premium desktop offerings, I dont think Opterons will be much of a challenge until the next AMD architecture arrives.
In fact, AMD will need at least 2 years to catch up to Woodcrests "current" performance, which they also confirmed.
Too bad that Clovertown will stay in the processor arena only for a short time, with CSI and the corresponding platform upgrade coming in 2008.

*cought*fanboy!*cought*

words from someone who doesnt understand the tech behind apple *.* OSX *.*

MadModMike along with ALOT of other posters know the joys of a perfect OS sorry but vista in my oppinion will not be as great

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Huh? They may not be exclusively based in America, but they are certainly an American company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel

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If these marks hold up - I wonder what Intel is thinking. I thought they had learned their lesson with the P4's and P-D's. It's like them saying 4 or 8 is better than one. Well in most things in the world 4 or 8 is better than one. Seeing the Dual Core Opteron beat the quad core Intel makes me wonder if Intel will ever turn things around. From what I am seeing is alot of press but not many benchmarks are in favor for Intel (Intel new vs. AMD Old).

YCON Are you getting going to become a Senile old man Or woman or anything in between? Woodcrest Line isn't out and about now. "WTF" do you mean "current" Until your sitting with a "bad Axe" mobo with a Conroe 2.66Ghz Processer chip in the wash room Jerknig off feeling and smelling it, It's not a "current" performance. Only "current" performance can come out when you "the Customer" can buy it freely not see 4 megabyte Bits being bench marked. "current" is like smelling my Fart and telling how big a Turd i'm going to drop.

*raises left eye brow*

well it is the same as saying "Too bad that Conroe will stay in the processor arena only for a short time", since Clovertown is the "double conroe glued together and slap a central FSB on it" version.

but.. i bet most intel fanboyz here disagree with that huh...

Oh god not Foamy...

That score is for Cinebench 2003 and isn't directly comparable with scores in 9.5 being lower across the board. Clovertown's score of 362 in 64-bit mode would place it near a 2.2GHz Opteron. Cinebench doesn't scale all that well with core count either so a 4.7x speedup with 8 cores should be similar to what will be seen on Opteron.

There's a ranking page of various computers for Cinebench 9.5 at:

http://www.3dfluff.com/mash/cb95/top.php

But it's down right now, here's the Google cache of it:

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cach [...] =clnk&cd=1

You can see that Cinebench scales ~85% between 1->2, but only about 60% between 2->4 cores.

As well, Cinebench is probably not yet optimized for Conroe's monstrous SIMD capabilities and could see a significant increase in performance, like that seen for the PPC970 when Cinebench added optimizations for it.

I expected no less from AMD's biggest fan, Mr. Shakirou or whatever the heck his name is..... this guy claims to hold a PhD, in what??? From what school?? I need to know where not to send my kids

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