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Hi, Im currently runnin a amd 64 3400+ with socket 754...and my motherboard unfortunatly has an agp slot. My question is what is the real difference in performace between these to cards? Is there any direct benchmark comparisons? And would it be cost/performance effective if i bought a new motherboard and a pcie 7800gt instead of getting a 7800gs agp? Thanks

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I agree. The 7800 GS isn't worth it right now. Maybe if the price dropped to $250, it would be a good buy.

Reply to Heyyou27

newegg has the 7800gs for around 299..if i got that i was thinking of getting the evga version which has higher clock speeds than the others for around 319..i figure it would be around prolly 350-400 for a mobo+7800 gt...ive never changed a mobo b4...how hard is it to do? will i have to reformat my harddrives?

Reply to cory1234

my stupid compaq only has a 300w power supply...something tells me that im going to need a new psu to be able to handle the 7800 series

Reply to cory1234

I have a s754 mobo as well and i've been having a hard time finding a s754 mobo with pci-e and sli is there anything out there for sure?

Also does anyone know what the difference is between the
e-GeForce 7800 GS CO Superclock™
and the
e-GeForce 7800 GS CO, 256 MB DDR3?

Is the non superclocked still overclocked? and if not wouldn't it be better to get that and than OC it myself?

Reply to rusticoar

the superclocked one is clocked a lot higher, get it!

Reply to metalweenis

Maybe upgrade to a 939 + nForce4 + 7800GT PCI-Express :D

Reply to linux_0

Find Someonw To Give You A Good Profit From Your Socket 754 Mottherboard, CPU And Video Card And Use The Cash To Spring For A Decent Nforce4 Based Socket 939 Motherboard, CPU And 7800GT

Reply to Hella-D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130273

Now that's a bad ass GS. 460mhz core and 1.35Ghz memory. eVGA rocks. Only $329

-mpjesse

Reply to mpjesse

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Find Someonw To Give You A Good Profit From Your Socket 754 Mottherboard, CPU And Video Card And Use The Cash To Spring For A Decent Nforce4 Based Socket 939 Motherboard, CPU And 7800GT



I'm not sure I agree with this. Socket AM2 is just around the corner (July is the estimated release date) which will be replacing Socket 939. Socket 939 processors will not fit in Socket AM2, nor will current socket 940s. You also have to change your cpu fan in most cases and upgrade to DDR2 memory. So you may just want to wait a bit for that to show up.

More on Socket AM2:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipse [...] spx?i=2688

Reply to Samsa

samsa i agree with you. I'm gonna wait until cpus get much better than my 3400+ before upgrading. Mpjesse, your also right, that is a bad ass card. I got the plain old CO, I will overclock it myself. I talked to someone who has it and they said he have it at 520 and 1350 with the help of a little arctic silver. Even if he's exaggerating a little... I'm in.

Oh yeah and it came out to 313.64 with tax and shipping. Newegg rocks.

Reply to rusticoar

Even Though M2 Will Be Round Shortly Dosent Mean That Socket 939 Will Be Be A Bad Idea..... Semprons Will Likely Be Moved Up To Socket 939 And CPU Will Go Clear Up To The FX60 And Theres Even A X2 5000+ Planned For Socket 939 AND M2 And AMD Has Stated That There A Few Newer Faster CPU Slated For Release For socket 939 AND M2 As Well, And Many Of The Ones That Are Actually For M2 Will Be Nearly The Same (With The Exception Of The Faster Hypertransport And DDR2 Memory Controller Starting From The 3200+ And Up, Wich Almost Garaunteed That Socket 939 Isnt Quite Dead Yet...... And Besides You Should Always Wait About 6 Or So Months For Prices To Go Down On The Newest Technology (And Give Time Ta Get The "Bugs" Out), Besides All That RELLY Matters For The Average Gamer Is A Fast Graphics Card Riding The PCI-E Bus Anywayse, So Why Not? And I Doubt DDR2 Will Make A Huge Impact On Performance Between The S939s And M2s Anywayse

Reply to Hella-D

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Even Though M2 Will Be Round Shortly Dosent Mean That Socket 939 Will Be Be A Bad Idea..... Semprons Will Likely Be Moved Up To Socket 939 And CPU Will Go Clear Up To The FX60 And Theres Even A X2 5000+ Planned For Socket 939 AND M2 And AMD Has Stated That There A Few Newer Faster CPU Slated For Release For socket 939 AND M2 As Well, And Many Of The Ones That Are Actually For M2 Will Be Nearly The Same (With The Exception Of The Faster Hypertransport And DDR2 Memory Controller Starting From The 3200+ And Up, Wich Almost Garaunteed That Socket 939 Isnt Quite Dead Yet...... And Besides You Should Always Wait About 6 Or So Months For Prices To Go Down On The Newest Technology (And Give Time Ta Get The "Bugs" Out), Besides All That RELLY Matters For The Average Gamer Is A Fast Graphics Card Riding The PCI-E Bus Anywayse, So Why Not? And I Doubt DDR2 Will Make A Huge Impact On Performance Between The S939s And M2s Anywayse



He still has a great processor, might as well ride it out till its totally worthless if he can. And its not really important whether DDR2 has a huge impact, because you'll need to get it for an AM2 processor. And do you have to capitalize every first letter? :lol: I feel like I'm reading a post from some spam bot.

Edit:
This is all moot now, as he's bought his new vid card and his system is good again for another year or so. hehe

Reply to Samsa

The difference between DDR and DDR2 is almost none. So if your not going to upgrade any thing else, then buy a new motherboard and a 7800GT or a pairs of 6800GS/GT/Ultra...

Reply to falsterbo

Update.........

My "Pride And Joy"
AMD Athlon 64 X2 "4900+" (3800+ @ 2.5GHz) 2.45v
2GB Of Gigaram CAS 2.5-4-4-7 DDR466 @ DDR500 Speed (250MHz) 2.9v
Evga Nvidia 7800GT @ 500/1100

hahaha you cannot say that it is a 4900+, because it has so little cache-memory...

Reply to falsterbo

You don't have to format but it is suggested. You can do the following and it will work most of the time with new hardware. I use it instead of formating. After the repair is done you will have to go through the regester with microsoft again and activate your copy of WinXP.

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Reply to Oberon

Yeah, That IS True....What Should I Call It Then? The 4800.5? LOL :P

Reply to Hella-D

Actually DDR2 In Some Cases Can Actually Have Worse Performance Than Standard "DDR1" Thats Why I Wish That AMD Would Just Stick With Standard DDR And Improve The Chips Themselves By Making The Hypertransport Faster, Going To .65nm And Doubling The L2 Caches (From 512KB To 1MB On The 512KB Modles And 1MB To 2MB On The 1MB Versions)And Doubling The L1 As-Welll

Reply to Hella-D

Intel is in the lead now... They have already double there caches. The 9xx-series has 4Mb cache.

Reply to falsterbo

Intel is not in the lead and the larger cache makes almost no difference whatsoever in most apps.

Intel + DDR2 667 can barely keep up with AMD64 939+nForce4 + hypertransport + DDR400 despite the 1 - 1.2GHz clock deficit.

The onboard memory controller makes a huge difference.

The only benchmarks Intel can claim are the synthetic ones which are biased towards Intel and are notoriously inaccurate.

In real-world benchmarks AMD takes the lead and maintains it. AMD64 optimized code runs even faster. Keep in mind most code AMD64s are benchmarked with is optimized for Intel and NOT AMD.

Reply to linux_0

the 64 x2 wont beat the new ddr2 nomater what the memory can out perform the 939 and I had said this when people started to buy new motherboards My words were WAIT.
ddr2 takes less power which means better performance faster data transfer more mb per second, the processors will work more smoothly because of the ddr2. I did post the expections of the amd ddr2 memory.

Reply to gomerpile

Yes DDR2 draws less power, but they have so bad timings now...

Reply to falsterbo

I can totaly agree that AMD is faster in games and one application at the time. But if you give AMD more than 2 apps at the same time, then Intel speeds by and takes the first place...

If you take a look at Tomshardware, then you´ll see that the new Intel takes the lead in most tests...

Reply to falsterbo

The best way to improve performance is to employ greater parallelism.

Cranking up the clock frequency will continue to require more wait states.

I would rather have a CPU that can address 4 or more DIMMs @ once running at full speed with 2-2-2-5 1T timings.

Reply to linux_0

I Doubt That Dude, Even The Single-Core 3200+ Athlon 64 That I Upgraded From Could Run SEVERAL Apps At A Time, Now That Im Running An X2 Its Even Better.... Did I Mention That The Athon 64s Have The Most Powerfull FPU In The Desktop/Workstation World

Reply to Hella-D

BS AMD dont have ddr2 yet so how the puck you know that, dude. Pentuim always had bad timming.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html

Cant beat the facts dude. Look at the muli tasking dude do you see pentuim in the lead dont come and bs us anymore.

Reply to gomerpile

Dont listen to him dude he has no idea what he is talking about. The bench marks for the x2 4400 and the fx are the best bench marks around he is talking bs and we all know where that leads to. Remember the dude wiff the oc vcard.

Reply to gomerpile

very true and that is where ddr2 will be able to deliver this in a speedier way.

Reply to gomerpile
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