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Here's a tip to everyone... just because you don't know about it.. doesnt make it weird or abnormal...

as for the dog.... silly. hehehehehe

I used to bet people 5 bucks in Electronics class I could touch an active jacob's ladder.

I'd make sure i stood on a rubber mat on the floor and only touch one of the contacts..... created a weird buzzing feeling in my finger tip and thats it. got the 5 bucks everytime. they'd think i'd fry myself.

although i did warn them not to do that themselves and NEVER.. EVER.. touch both contactsof a jacobs ladder at the same time..

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Heh heh. In small engines class back in high school we had cut-away 4-cycle single-cylinder enging with a crank so that you could turn the crank and watch parts move. But it was made from a working engine. So the spark plug still zapped.

One day we had everyone hold hands while one person held the spark plug cable and another turned the crank. That was fun. Zzzzaaaap! All in a row. I think the last person in the series got it the worst, but I could be wrong. And whenever some damn fool was dumb enough to walk by the shop our chain would run after them and give them a pat. Zap! He he he.

Reply to slvr_phoenix

great but now im getting another overheat problem. When im at idle with case closed, i get 41 celcius. When i run games it goes to 65 and my computer shutdown. Its a bad air flow?

Reply to maypep_necro

sigh another stupid thread by the same noob who asked if oc to 20ghz was possible

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It sounds like an airflow issue.
You say your case has 5 fans. Did it come that way stock or did you add some?
Is this problem new?
Have you done any mods just before the heat/crash issue?

FYI, I have a P4 northwood that idles 32-35c. I have to push it really hard to hit 40. This is using the stock Intel cooler. System/case temps run 30-35.

Reply to Newf

i got 4 now i removed 1

PCI - AGP fan: added.
CPU fan: stock
GPU fan: stock.
SPSU: stock.
Big desktop fan: Removed.

Reply to maypep_necro
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Humm, did not see that post..

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Humm, did not see that post..



???

Reply to maypep_necro
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A vacuum cleaner would be a nice upgrade for your computer...

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Seriously??

Reply to pat

what are you talking about? what dusts does? slow computer? cause overheats?

Reply to maypep_necro

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But Pentium4 got 2 model? prescott and northwood?

And i got no fan for my northbridge only a weird black plastic heatskink...



No, about seven models actually. Wiliamete was the first version--wasnt too hot but man for the GHz the speed was worse than the pentium III 1GHz cpus. They were quickly replaced by the decent P4 Northwoods. Then the ProcessHot -- er, Prescott -- core came out, and many after that.

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Well, do you think a cooler packed with dust will be really efficient??? Start your brain, and think.. how would I feel covered with dust around component that put out lots of heat???

But I'm sure that you are not serious and you know all that..... well, no, I'm not really sure, because it you were, you be running a clean computer..

I only hope your not living in a house that dirty ..

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what are you talking about? what dusts does? slow computer? cause overheats?



YESS!!! You didn't read my post on your other forum did you? Dust kills computers. As a service tech I can say that probably 60% of the video card and motherboard problems I've fixed on customer's PCs are caused by heat problems, and almost all of the heat problems are due to excess dust in the cooling fans or on the chips themselves.

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what are you talking about? what dusts does? slow computer? cause overheats?



YESS!!! You didn't read my post on your other forum did you? Dust kills computers. As a service tech I can say that probably 60% of the video card and motherboard problems I've fixed on customer's PCs are caused by heat problems, and almost all of the heat problems are due to excess dust in the cooling fans or on the chips themselves.

You still havent understand??? noob won't read anything usefull.. no.. they think they know everything and all they want to talk about in longer word like Hypertransport, but forget the smaller one, and more important..like cleaning .

Reply to pat

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i think we can all agree that if u want to test ur power supply the easiest way to do it is to take it apart and just feel around


Yep, just be sure it's plugged in when you do it (but be carefull, there may be sharp edges in there that can cut you 8O )

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wait so ur saying that they dont use plastic to cool cpu's anymore?... maybe thats why mines overheating... do u think candle wax would help out? what if i just spit on it hourly


Silly parlee, plastic's for pro's! Plastic is the latest and greatest heatsink available, and all the overclockers are using it to keep their hardware arctic breeze cool at tems as low as 120 degrees celsius. If it's overheating try blowing on it 5 times an hour. candle wax should be applied in place of the thermal paste (again, latest and greatest tech, outperforms Artik Silver 5 by a longshot). You only need to spit on it hourly if you overclock it :lol:

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SHYT!! if i didnt could this damage my cpu????? i put some of my dogs hair on it, and it took more than 5 seconds to catch on fire... is that good or bad?? i wonder if i should consider overclocking?


Na, the doghair incident just proves that your CPU is running at the P3RF3C7 Temp! As to overclocking, definitely! Just be sure to cook breakfast while you 'clock it!

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i got another thing to ask. Why i got a fan here?: http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php? [...] 0197gg.jpg


Not quite sure, but could help with overheating and ID if you were to dust/vacuum in there once in a while (then repost).

Reply to SiLeNtEuPhOrIa

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YESS!!! You didn't read my post on your other forum did you? Dust kills computers. As a service tech I can say that probably 60% of the video card and motherboard problems I've fixed on customer's PCs are caused by heat problems, and almost all of the heat problems are due to excess dust in the cooling fans or on the chips themselves.



Oh joy, we have a Best Buy geek squad team member here :roll:
Everybody batten down the hatches while we watch him work magic :lol: and reinstall the OS to fix the hard drive issue
(no offense to you bourgeoisdude, just a thing between myself and help desk/geek squad/service tech's).

Reply to SiLeNtEuPhOrIa

Just for the record...no I'm not with Geek Squad and I hate Best Buy.

Reply to bourgeoisdude

damn... i clean it every week but i dont hav air can so i use Q-Tips...


and im serious...

Reply to maypep_necro

if you need more photos i can take somes.. just ask me where.

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rofl @ ur posts

Reply to parlee

im gonna buy a can of air but is this dangerous? how i use it? can i use it everywhere in the pc?

Reply to maypep_necro
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Take a good sniff or 2.. that will help to improve your life...

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how can u be so dumb? its compressed air, its not acid or anything spray it anywhere inside ur computer and only worry if somthing blows off. in my experience everything that gets a lot of dust on it is very solid and has fans on it, so at most ull spin the fans with the air... so u may wanna buy new fans because itd be unsafe to run them afterwords...

Reply to parlee

but people tell me a pc hardware stuff is VERY VERY fragile.

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to electricity............................. dude its AIR a computer needs AIR so that it doesnt overheat, if he compressed air is more powerful than a paintball gun it could potentially do damage, otherwise, no.

Reply to parlee

alright so i can do that anywhere? great! thx guys

Reply to maypep_necro
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wusy wanna build a "castle made of sand"? (jimi hendrix)

Reply to parlee

but can i damade a fan or something like this?

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but can i damade a fan or something like this?



You obvioulsly has no clue abut what "common sense means" don't you???

seriously, are you that really noob?? I mean.. what parts of carefully blowing air in a case is hard to conceive? I mean, if you blow air on a fan and it start spinning what would you do? Hold it to prevent it to run too fast or make it overspin til it fails?

I don't know. maybe you should give up all this computer stuff, because lacking of knowledge is one thing, but lacking common sense can be much more disastrous. There is shop that would clean it for you for a fee, but you won't ruin something. Else, my 10 years old nephew could do it for you too..

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how can u be so dumb? its compressed air, its not acid or anything spray it anywhere inside ur computer and only worry if somthing blows off. in my experience everything that gets a lot of dust on it is very solid and has fans on it, so at most ull spin the fans with the air... so u may wanna buy new fans because itd be unsafe to run them afterwords...



Fans that have ran with lot of dust will likely be worn by the fact they ran out of balance for a while. The dust might prevent to run fast enough to fail, but once cleaned, they'll likely start to make noise and fail

Reply to pat

Really? so should i do that or not?

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People, just want you to know that I LOVE THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!

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because ur an idiot. go to www.dell.com, buy a 300 dollar comp from them, and if u ever have any problems call dell support.

Reply to parlee

no dude. Damn... Im a newbie at hardware and if i damage anything, i will need to give 1500$ to my brother.

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further urging me to tell u to go to www.dell.com and order a computer off there site, if u dont know that blowing air onto a fan is good or bad, u should in no way shape or form be allowed to even open the side of ur case to get to said fans, people like you need to be put into soft white rooms

Reply to parlee

damn... im serious! im gonna go to another forum because on this1, there is too much @$$holes like you.
i dont wanna spend 300$ on another computer if i can do it free..

Reply to maypep_necro
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do every1 here a favor... shut up and read.
1 turn off ur computer / unplug it / take off side cover
2 take a can of compressed air
3 blow the air over the dusty areas
4 replace the side cover
5 plug in computer and power on

if that isnt specific enough do as i told u and go spend 300 dollars on a computer every 3 months when it has too much dust on it to run properly, because obviously you have no common sense and dont realize that dust is heavy and causes fans to slow down and heatsinks to be less efficent... i trust you dont know what a heatsink is but its the giant metal thing hanging off the cpu (doubt u know what a cpu is either) do us a favor and go to a different forum because pointless questions like this deserve to be made fun of.

Reply to parlee

Its not a pointless question. I just don't wanna broke anything. My brother got a buisness and our computer is in here. If i brise anything, im broke..

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the computer in ur sig is worth 300 at most. so ur saying that ur brohers entire buisness is on ONE harddrive that IS NOT backed up?? thats probably the funniest thing ive heard all day.

Its not a pointless question. I just don't wanna broke anything. (the word is "break"

i dont get how you cant understand this yourself, AIR + COMPUTER = OK perhaps if u were to hit it with a hammer then that would cause some damage. AIR will NOT ruin your computer unless your totally worthless and get 900 psi air can and spray it right on the vunerable points on a computer (motherboard)... which leads me to say, the only thing you could actually do damage to with air, and only if it was incredably powerful air, is the motherboard, but there is NO WAY you will do ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY damage to ANYTHING in the computer from compressed air from a computer store. enough said im tired of telling u how air cant ruin a compter, go blow off ur computer but if ur THIS worried about it make ur brother do it and if he ruins his buisness cleaning off dust then we can all laugh at how dumb u are for not backing up.

Reply to parlee

We got many computers but this1 is our personal computer.
I will do it but if i 'break' any part of my computer, im fucked.

Reply to maypep_necro
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i guess its hard to get through to u, im suprised u managed to sign up for this forum and figure out how to make a sig, you will not break your computer from air. here ill type it so u understand... duh tew mooch air wunt dun broke ur computa

Reply to parlee

Calm down. I will do it.

Reply to maypep_necro

I gonna get the can tromorow.

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And remember, it can“t be above 900 psi. Another thing, be sure that you take the mobo's battery out before cleaning. Or you just can throw all the fans out, including the heat sink one. This way you wont have dust problems. I'd go this way.

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Be carefull with a full can of compressed air, for it is in a liquid state in the can, and if blown whilst can is at an angle, the below freezing refrigerant will stream out and contact components, and that on a hot PC could crack the silicon. Other than that, you should be good to go.

Reply to RichPLS

:lol: :lol: :lol: I go away for a couple of days and look what happens! Seriously guys, you can be nicer than that. (Though it is funny all the same.)

Okay, now, as for that pic. Damn dude! I haven't seen that much dust in a long time. Get that can of compressed dry air from a computer shop and blow and blow and blow. When liquid squirts out (no doubt it will because it'll get damn cold before you get rid of all that dust) take a break. Let the can warm back to room temp. Then start again.

Is dust bad for a PC? Imagine wrapping yourself in a nice fluffy wool or cotton blanket. Warm eh? Now imagine throwing sand into a car's transmission. Besides slowing it down, it'll cause some serious wear and tear. That's what dust does to your PC.

And really bad dust can even in rare cases cause conduction between exposed metals. New PCs this doesn't happen with so much, but I've seen where EDO RAM that got dusty stopped working correctly because of dust's conductance. (Luckily cleaning did the trick there.)

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