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"www.MSmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in message
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> hard disks in cell phones are coming soon (already available in samsung)
and
> hard disk are availble for pocket pc in CF ... so it is not comparing
apples
> and oranges...

With 60GB??
>
> "ACE!!!" <ace_rules_bbs@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:Xns956764242986FFearIsTheMindKiller@207.46.248.16...
> > "www.MSmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in
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> > @tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:
> >
> > > you have see little... I have seen such pocket pc-s - namely with
thick
> > > battery - that has bigger capacity than regular...
> >
> >
> > Comparing Apples and Pears again.
> > I've seen hundreds, both PPC and dedicated players. And sorry but
frankly
> > that's a pathetic statement. You still don't reach the playing time and
> > most certainly won't equal the quality of playback.
> > Etended batteries add to the bulk and weight, the PPC still has no
> > specialized audio processing or a decent equalizer built in and then the
> > output quality is also less than that of a dedicated player. Heck I HAVE
> > an extended battery inside a CF sleeve. how much do you think it weighs
> > when that thing is attached? It doubles in weight and size and still
> > doesn't equal dedicated audio players even if I stick in two 2GB CF
cards
> > and a 2GB SD card (Which you can't even buy yet!) to add storage.
> > Perhaps weight is a 'cool' factor along with the extended battery and
the
> > ability to then make an attempt at a 15~25 hour playing time on a PPC,
> > Well then I could have just bought a 20 mile extension cord for my home
> > stereo set and mounted it on my bike with two 8" speakers. Sure it'd be
> > cool. I'll have the whole neighborhood looking when I plow past on my
200
> > pound tank-sized bike with enhanced audio system. Might as well add a
> > V8 engine to it as well while i'm at it }
> > ¡Viva la Tecnología!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ~S.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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As a journalist, don't you have a responsibility to check the veracity of
your sources, not just repeat anything you have seen somewhere?

When 2 GB SD cards come out, I'm sure they will be very expensive to start
with.

"www.MSmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in message
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>
> "KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:eGZRZt1mEHA.3684@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > would that be the same 2 gig SD cards that you reported a year ago were
> > "readily available", that have still not made it to market ????
> >
>
> hey, it was excerpt from a paper magazine , including photo of that 2GB
> card.
> and it was bout coming soon, not being available now
>
> but yes, 2gb are coming soon
>
>

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MS wrote:
> "DarkSheer" <rdettl____@dundee.net> wrote in message
> news:TMOdnaqV0uohEqHcRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>
>>Like you would use 40gb on MP3's. Hell, I have a dell jukebox that's
>
> 20gb,
>
>>and I'm using about 5gbs, and that's with multiple mp3's copied twice in
>>different playlists.
>>
>>Ryan
>
>
> Obviously some people do buy 40GB MP3 players, no? They make them, there
> must be people buying them. There are even 60 GB MP3 players these days. So,
> some people might have a larger music collection than you do.

It takes 160GB to hold my collection of ripped CDs. That's backed up to
another drive.

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"Ken" <bogus_address@e-mail.com> wrote in news:uTv03N6oEHA.2340
@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

> When traveling I use Noise reduction headphones and wish to use them
> listening to MP3's on my XDA II. Problem is that the stereo jack on
the XDA
> is a 2.5mm and my NR headphones are 3.5mm. None of the adapters I have
with
> it convert down like that. Any thoughts?
>
>

Why not go to a shop where they sell electronic parts and simply buy a
2.5mm jack, take up a cutter and a soldering iron and remove the 3.5 mm
jack and replace it with the 2.5 mm jack?
Or, if you can't handle a solderingthing yourself, ask a friend who can?
The schematics are not that difficult, I think anyone with some knowledge
of electronics will be able to help you.

--
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"Tomorrow it may get better, but it will never be allright."
(Cornelis Vreeswijk)

(just remove the spamstatement
and one underscore
to respond personally,
but please keep it friendly,
I'm only human too)

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" MS" <ms@nospam.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> There currently is no such thing as 2 GB SD card. Besides, just because
> you
> think that is enough storage for you, there are obviously many people who
> think otherwise, as there are many people who buy MP3 players with 20, 40,
> and 60GB hard drives.

nobody said that you need to carry your WHOLE music/video collection on
portable player...

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" MS" <ms@nospam.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
>> Oh the cost of the burning (MP3) etc. from Music Match costs me $25
>> for version 9 and it rips my home cd's and records and tapes in
>> seconds
>
> Well, if you paid $25 for a CD-ripping program, that's certainly a
> waste of
> money, IMO. There are excellent freeware programs that do that very
> well,
> such as CDEX, EAC, and dbpoweramp.
>
>

That may be true as to the freeware. I have purchased the Nero Program
many years ago and it was well worth it. I have purchased the new
Roxio Burning Suite of Programs (This software was installed on the HP
laptop when I bought it but was totally useless, so I bought the
upgrade software and now it works like it should) since I use multiple
computers & the iPAQ it has been my experience to not use programs
that have not been known to function fully. I will admit however that
in this thread I was intrigued by the mention of the Dell DJ, I also
purchased that and it will be here on Monday. I did however take every
cd I own and burn them to the external HD and they await the units
arrival. Over 7,000 songs.

Elector

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http://www.pocketpctechs.com/Acces [...] type=audio
Should have what you're looking for.

--
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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...



"Ken" <bogus_address@e-mail.com> wrote in message
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> When traveling I use Noise reduction headphones and wish to use them
> listening to MP3's on my XDA II. Problem is that the stereo jack on the
> XDA
> is a 2.5mm and my NR headphones are 3.5mm. None of the adapters I have
> with
> it convert down like that. Any thoughts?
>
>

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That'd be a fine solution if I never intended on using them for anything
else, like watching the movie on the plane, or using them with any other
device. Thanks though.

"SoftSpot" <softspot_ihatespam_brugge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Ken" <bogus_address@e-mail.com> wrote in news:uTv03N6oEHA.2340
> @TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:
>
> > When traveling I use Noise reduction headphones and wish to use them
> > listening to MP3's on my XDA II. Problem is that the stereo jack on
> the XDA
> > is a 2.5mm and my NR headphones are 3.5mm. None of the adapters I have
> with
> > it convert down like that. Any thoughts?
> >
> >
>
> Why not go to a shop where they sell electronic parts and simply buy a
> 2.5mm jack, take up a cutter and a soldering iron and remove the 3.5 mm
> jack and replace it with the 2.5 mm jack?
> Or, if you can't handle a solderingthing yourself, ask a friend who can?
> The schematics are not that difficult, I think anyone with some knowledge
> of electronics will be able to help you.
>
> --
> SoftSpot
> softspot_ihatespam_brugge@hotmail.com
> "Tomorrow it may get better, but it will never be allright."
> (Cornelis Vreeswijk)
>
> (just remove the spamstatement
> and one underscore
> to respond personally,
> but please keep it friendly,
> I'm only human too)
>

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Where are you?
If in the UK I got one from Maplin a few years ago.


"Ken" <bogus_address@e-mail.com> wrote in message
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> That's a thought. as I said, none of the adapters I have (or can find)
> will convert a 3.5 to a 2.5 If you know where I can get one, I'm all ears
> (eyes)
>
>
> "mUs1Ka" <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote in message
> news:zcw5d.1310$ED.700@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Ken wrote:
> > > When traveling I use Noise reduction headphones and wish to use them
> > > listening to MP3's on my XDA II. Problem is that the stereo jack on
> > > the XDA is a 2.5mm and my NR headphones are 3.5mm. None of the
> > > adapters I have with it convert down like that. Any thoughts?
> > Buy a separate adaptor.
> > --
> > Ray
> >
> >
>
>

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"Ken" <bogus_address@e-mail.com> wrote in news:u#uvE38oEHA.1816
@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:

> That'd be a fine solution if I never intended on using them for anything
> else, like watching the movie on the plane, or using them with any other
> device. Thanks though.
>

OK, second proposition: buy yourself a piece of wire, suitable for
headphones or whatever, about 0.5m is enough already, a 2.5 mm jack (or
"male" ) and a 3.5 mm counterjack (or "female" ) and make your own adapter.

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(just remove the spamstatement
and one underscore
to respond personally,
but please keep it friendly,
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Elector wrote:
> "Mike Williams [MVP]" <mikew@Nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:4156831D.6050100@Nospam.mvps.org...
> <snip>
>
>>It takes 160GB to hold my collection of ripped CDs. That's backed up
>>to another drive.
>
>
> And I thought my 7,000+ ripped MP3 was allot. ha ha

I'm hovering around 4 times that. Some DJs have posted here with larger
collections still.

Make sure you have all the data backed up (media + album art), as you
never know when WMP is going to go postal and rename. retag or delete files.

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Scratch that, found the one you were talking about. For 99p I'll give it a
shot and see if it works. I'm doubting it since apparently the XDA II
socket is proprietary. Worth the £3.50 to get it shipped.

Ken
"AlanS" <news@remove.abyz.fslife.co.uk> wrote in message
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> 2.5mm plug to 3.5mm socket stereo adapter FA94C £0.99
>
> www.maplin.co.uk, but postage will be more than the bits
>
>
> "Ken" <bogus_address@e-mail.com> wrote in message
> newsnN4eq%23oEHA.2864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I'm in the NW ROI but go into Derry regularly.
> >
> >
> > "AlanS" <news@remove.abyz.fslife.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:cj6qk4$eou$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > Where are you?
> > > If in the UK I got one from Maplin a few years ago.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ken" <bogus_address@e-mail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:eF5aU28oEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > That's a thought. as I said, none of the adapters I have (or can
> > find)
> > > > will convert a 3.5 to a 2.5 If you know where I can get one, I'm
all
> > ears
> > > > (eyes)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "mUs1Ka" <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zcw5d.1310$ED.700@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > > > > Ken wrote:
> > > > > > When traveling I use Noise reduction headphones and wish to use
> them
> > > > > > listening to MP3's on my XDA II. Problem is that the stereo
jack
> on
> > > > > > the XDA is a 2.5mm and my NR headphones are 3.5mm. None of the
> > > > > > adapters I have with it convert down like that. Any thoughts?
> > > > > Buy a separate adaptor.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ray
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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Don't you know when to stop?



~S.




"www.MSmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in news:#odNKG8oEHA.3668
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> exactly! so actually even iPod ist not good for holding everything.
> no need to have 40 gb in player, 2gb is enough









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"www.MSmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in message
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> exactly! so actually even iPod ist not good for holding everything.
> no need to have 40 gb in player, 2gb is enough

Is that any business of yours, to tell other people how much is enough?? Are
you going to lobby Congress to pass a law banning manufacturers from
creating music players with more than 2 GB?

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hello lame person, calls himself "MS"! As T-Mobile SDA Music smartphone
shows (it has special buttons to play music) even 512 MB is enough to play
mobile music...

" MS" <ms@nospam.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>
> "www.MSmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in message
> news:%23odNKG8oEHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
>> exactly! so actually even iPod ist not good for holding everything.
>> no need to have 40 gb in player, 2gb is enough
>
> Is that any business of yours, to tell other people how much is enough??
> Are
> you going to lobby Congress to pass a law banning manufacturers from
> creating music players with more than 2 GB?
>
>

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"Mike Williams [MVP]" <mikew@Nospam.mvps.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> ... and the fact that you can type does not mean that your words are
> relevant.

have you got MVP for helping users of MS products? or for discouraging them?


"customer is always right"

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again... you think no one would possibly own 220 cd's ??? HA you friggin'
idiot !!! I bought my first CD player in '84 (that's 20 yrs - in case you
cant do simple math) that works out to 220 cd's over 20 yrs works out to 11
new cd's per year (less than 1 a month) do you really think buying 1 CD a
month is outrageous???

shows how little you know !!!

go away !!!!


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"Mike Williams [MVP]" <mikew@Nospam.mvps.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> It takes 160GB to hold my collection of ripped CDs. That's backed up to
> another drive.

160/0.7 = 220 CDs. Are you sure they are ripped and not downloaded from
kazaa?

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"www.MSmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in
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> hey, I was just asking. It looked impropable to me.
>
> however you must acknowledge that you will never ever be able to put
> this whole music to mobile device!
> therefore windows mobile device is not worse than ipod!
>


Wrong, technology is advancing and for mobile music players the technology
is advancing quicker than it is for PPC's/Smartphones which you favor so
furiously. 60GB Today, Double tomorrow. it's always been like that, it
won't change, get over it already. One thing I surely will not acknowledge
is that opinion of yours, and you know where you can stick it don't you?
Any windows mobile device absolutely, undeniably and totally bites the
dust when it is put up to be compared to an iPOD or similarly equipped
mobile music player. That, simply because you *can't* compare the two.
when will you learn the difference! is your head made of granite?
Now buzz off already, you tire me beyond imagination.




~S.




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Yes, really. I don't care if it'll be a terabyte or an exabyte or an
assbite, whatever the hell they come up with will make people drool.
Your working day may be 8 hours, and you might like 48kbps compression
or whatever the hell you use to compress your music with but there are
plenty more people who have their own views, opinions and experiences
and will use that to form their own solution as you and I do daily.
A day is only 24 hours if you stay up for those 24 hours, given.
but the waking day stretches further than a mere 8 hours for me.
I'm on call 24/7 even, if you want to go there. Suppose I want to
have something playing during work, during my ride to work/home and
when I get home, and even when I go to sleep? (Yes, people do that!)
I'll need a whole lot more storage than that needlepoint 512MB.
it won't fit on there I can assure you. and Yet again you miss the
technological point of the whole discussion. You *can not* compare
a dedicated music player to any kind of PPC/Smartphone. the latter
does not have the dedicated processing powers, no dedicated and
specialised equaliser capabilities, nor does it have adequate sound
hardware built in to make it all happen. On a PPC/Smartphone, it's
all software! and not all that great either when compared to the
superior hardware a dedicated player offers.
There goes your superiority! Goodnight.




~S.




"www.MSmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in
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> not really! of course I agree that we will soon see devices with 1
> terabyte of memory
> but this is not the point, the point is that working day has 8 hours and
> whole day has 24 hours
> and if you compression then 512 MB is enough for 8 hours of music
> playback thus ms smartphone with mini-SD card of size 512 MB is enough
> and since it is smaller
> and has more functions than iPod - here you go! it's superior to iPod!
>






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"Mort Pugh" <mpugh@nowhere.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Apparently you never get out of the office.
...
> There apparently is no end to this discussion because some of the posters
> have a very limited view of the world.
>

let's agree that for some !!!! people windows mobile with 512 MB mini-SD
card would be better than iPod, OK?

that's true as far as office and world are concerned.... europe is such a
small continent...

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screw PPCs. I am talking here about MICROSOFT SMARTPHONE devices. Cell
phones. Not some PPCs (Pocket PCs).

"Mort Pugh" <mpugh@nowhere.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Dude, that is what everyone else has been saying. Up to now, you have
> been
> completely black or white on the topic. You are the only one that has
> been
> saying that one was better than the other. The other posters have only
> been
> saying that the iPOD is better for their needs. Nobody has disagreed that
> PPCs are better if you need a general purpose device.
>
> Its a new day!
>
> --
> Mort
>
>

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It still doesn't compare.


~S.



"www.MSmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in news:eu63ARmpEHA.2840
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> screw PPCs. I am talking here about MICROSOFT SMARTPHONE devices. Cell
> phones. Not some PPCs (Pocket PCs).
>






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Here we go again!

"Superfast"? Great you found a general purpose device that fits *your*
needs. We are all happy for you, enjoy.

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Mort

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"ACE!!!" <ace_rules_bbs@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Xns9574D7DA13526FearIsTheMindKiller@207.46.248.16...
> It still doesn't compare.

maybe not today, but soon.
next year first cellphone with harddisk comes to UK.
soon: also MS Smartphones with harddrives!!

a quote from british press below....


Samsung SPH-V5400

It's a mobile with a what? A mobile with a hard drive - the world's first,
and a precursor to the days when all mobiles will have built-in iPods.

What's the point? Haven't you heard about convergence? Now you don't have to
lug your phone, iPod, digital camera, PDA, radio and TV around. You get it
all in one 125g package.

What's so special? It lets you download and store music, take pictures and
store up to 280,000 low-res images, listen to FM radio, broadcast to nearby
radios and in the future watch TV, plus make the odd call. If you have the
time.

All this in a James Bond-style cigarette case? Not as light as your moby but
at 87.5mm x 54mm x 29.5mm, not that far off. With all that functionality,
battery life might be an issue though.

Wow or ugh? The name SPH-V5400 hardly trips off the tongue. But even though
the hard drive stores little more than a flash memory card, it's a step on
the road to the mobile device of the future. There are bound to be similar
devices around over the next few months. But at least you'll be ahead of the
pack.

When can I get one? Samsung says it's "very likely" to be launched in the UK
next year. Price should be around £500.

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"ACE!!!" <ace_rules_bbs@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Xns957A9CE058328FearIsTheMindKiller@207.46.248.16...
> Phones do not compare to Dedicated audio players. NEVER.
> N.E.V.E.R. will a device that converges multiple devices compare to
> each device separately, cramming multiple technologies into one 125g
> package is a sure ticket to bad quality and permanent loss of continuity.

NEVER? DAMN it, samsung has just released (now in korea and next year in UK)
a first cellphone with harddisk and we are just getting started in this
area - also SD
cards will be bigger (4GB in sight).

so it will certainly happen that one day the best mobile audio players will
be in cellphones.

but why to wait 3 years if you can have it today? in ms smartphone!

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http://www.msmobiles.com - where do you want to download MP3 today?

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ACE!!! wrote:
>> "www.MSmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in
>> newsiZsjX9qEHA.2588@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> NEVER? DAMN it, samsung has just released (now in korea and next
>>> year in UK) a first cellphone with harddisk and we are just getting
>>> started in this area - also SD
>>> cards will be bigger (4GB in sight).
>>>
>>> so it will certainly happen that one day the best mobile audio
>>> players will be in cellphones.
>>>
>>> but why to wait 3 years if you can have it today? in ms smartphone!
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.msmobiles.com - where do you want to download MP3 today?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, never.
>> Long, long before smartphones ever get there, dedicated portable
>> audio players will have advanced far beyond the audio capabilities
>> of those silly little phones, and that's a fact you can sync your
>> clock on. Sure, a hdd is nice. it's fragile, draws a lot of power,
>> but it's nice. A hdd doesn't increase the quality of audio however.
>> There aren't even 2GB SD cards yet, and now you're already talking
>> about 4GB? I think you can wait another 5 years after the 2GB cards
>> are released before you will see those advertised as available, and
>> reasonably priced even.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.msmobiles.com - where do you want to put your foot today?
>>
>> Sorry, couldn't resist that one.

Sorry mate, 12GB are "available"....if you're feeling flush! :-)
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