Good-By to ATI Junk

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I love ATI!!

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g glass wrote:
> My 9600XT went flakey in the 640x480 video mode on boot and when
> running progs in command mode. After an hour on the phone to Canada,
> the obnoxious tech support person said nothing about how to trouble
> shoot, but ranted about how it couldn't be the ATI board. Finally
> after replacing the board with a borrowed one to prove that the
> board was defective, ATI wanted my Social Security Number before
> shipping a replacement, in addition to a credit card - I trashed the
> board.
>
> Good-By ATI
>
>

Let me guess, you have never overclocked it and your PC case has great
air flow through it?

Love reading horrow stories about Americans being screwed over by having
no consumer rights lol Democracy..

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On Sun, 1 May 2005 23:19:50 -0400, "g glass" <gglass@glass.net> wrote:

>My 9600XT went flakey in the 640x480 video mode on boot and when
>running progs in command mode. After an hour on the phone to Canada,
>the obnoxious tech support person said nothing about how to trouble
>shoot, but ranted about how it couldn't be the ATI board. Finally
>after replacing the board with a borrowed one to prove that the
>board was defective, ATI wanted my Social Security Number before
>shipping a replacement, in addition to a credit card - I trashed the
>board.
>
>Good-By ATI
>

They have no legal right to ask for your social insurance number.
Report them to the authorities.

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ATI video cards are too over priced, NO tech support when you need it. If
you do call tech support, you're wasting money just on that phone call, to
find out they did'nt help you anyway.

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"Ted F" <freesky1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> ATI video cards are too over priced, NO tech support when you need it. If
> you do call tech support, you're wasting money just on that phone call, to
> find out they did'nt help you anyway.
>

Dunno, my X800xl costs way less than my 6800gt for almost equal performance
& when you say goodbye to ATI junk, you'll probably say hello to NVIDIA
junk.

Adam

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"g glass" <gglass@glass.net> wrote in message
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> My 9600XT went flakey in the 640x480 video mode on boot and when
> running progs in command mode. After an hour on the phone to Canada,
> the obnoxious tech support person said nothing about how to trouble
> shoot, but ranted about how it couldn't be the ATI board. Finally
> after replacing the board with a borrowed one to prove that the
> board was defective, ATI wanted my Social Security Number before
> shipping a replacement, in addition to a credit card - I trashed the
> board.
>
> Good-By ATI

Buying an ATi card is like buying game software in Thailand - u never know
what u get!




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NightSky 421 wrote:

> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@snet.net.invalid> wrote in message
> news56ok8031s@news2.newsguy.com...
>>
>> Actually, in the US they have every right to ask that and to refuse to
>> provide service if you decline to answer.
>>
>
>
> Out of simply curiousity, what is the logic behind a question like that in
> the first place?

I have no idea--maybe they want to use it as a customer identification
number or something.

> Is it so they can keep history records on specific
> people when they want to claim service or warranty?

It's a reasonable bet.

> Although I'm in Canada, I'd
> admittedly be alarmed if someone from a private corporation asked me for
> information that personal over a computer product.

Now let's see, they've got your credit card number and your home address and
a working email address and your phone number. I don't see how they can do
more harm with the social security number.

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J. Clarke wrote:

>
>
> Now let's see, they've got your credit card number and your home address and
> a working email address and your phone number. I don't see how they can do
> more harm with the social security number.
>


The SSN is the key to identity theft. You want to take the chance that
ATI won't get hacked and your personal information stolen? (Or that
some employee won't just walk out the door with it?)

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I've just sent my fourth AIW9800 back for warranty replacement since
Dec. 04, no requirement for SSN here.

4 defective cards in 4 months is not much of an endorsement, but they
do keep trying. I just get an RMA # from the web site and send them
off, don't bother with a long distance phone call just to get the long
delays and reinstall driver advice.

RAH

On Tue, 03 May 2005 10:36:24 -0500, Jim <wdxp@cox.net> wrote:

>Please enlighten me as to why ATI needs his social security number.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 02 May 2005 10:10:25 -0400, "J. Clarke"
><jclarke.usenet@snet.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Minotaur wrote:
>>
>>> g glass wrote:
>>>> My 9600XT went flakey in the 640x480 video mode on boot and when
>>>> running progs in command mode. After an hour on the phone to Canada,
>>>> the obnoxious tech support person said nothing about how to trouble
>>>> shoot, but ranted about how it couldn't be the ATI board. Finally
>>>> after replacing the board with a borrowed one to prove that the
>>>> board was defective, ATI wanted my Social Security Number before
>>>> shipping a replacement, in addition to a credit card - I trashed the
>>>> board.
>>>>
>>>> Good-By ATI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let me guess, you have never overclocked it and your PC case has great
>>> air flow through it?
>>>
>>> Love reading horrow stories about Americans being screwed over by having
>>> no consumer rights lol Democracy..
>>
>>On the troll-o-meter that scores about a .3 out of 10.
>>
>>If Americans have "no consumer rights" then what do all those legions of
>>product liability lawyers do?
>>
>>And if they offered to replace the board and he declined, then he _waived_
>>his "consumer rights".
>>
>>And the US is not a democracy, never has been and hopefully never will be.
>>
>>So what's your next inane remark going to be?

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Anthony L. Rondon wrote:

> This may help next time someone asks.
>
> http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10002.html#protect
>
> Scroll down to the section called "Protect your Social Security number"
> and ask them about the fourth question.
>
>
> "Smart Feet" <smartfeet@yourshoes.com> wrote in message
> news:9JNde.3855$9n1.2968@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now let's see, they've got your credit card number and your home address
>>> and
>>> a working email address and your phone number. I don't see how they can
>>> do
>>> more harm with the social security number.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The SSN is the key to identity theft. You want to take the chance that
>> ATI won't get hacked and your personal information stolen? (Or that some
>> employee won't just walk out the door with it?)

You really think it's that hard to find out someone's social security number
given their name, address, and phone number?

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"RAH" <rhugh@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I've just sent my fourth AIW9800 back for warranty replacement since
> Dec. 04, no requirement for SSN here.
>
> 4 defective cards in 4 months is not much of an endorsement, but they
> do keep trying. I just get an RMA # from the web site and send them
> off, don't bother with a long distance phone call just to get the long
> delays and reinstall driver advice.
>

Four defective cards in four months? How is that possible? You gotta be
doing something wrong or your system has compatibility issues.

DaveL

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If you ask ATI to send a board before you return the defective
board, they ask for a credit card and SSN. The reason that I got
from them was a vague response that U.S. Government required the SSN
before you can import it, which is nonsense. If you buy from a
company in the U.S., even if it is made out of the country, you
don't have that problem. ATI and nVidia have decent chipsets, you
just have to buy from companies that have good warranties (~3y-ears)
and U.S. sales/service facilities, e.g., ASUS, et al.
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"Jim" <wdxp@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Please enlighten me as to why ATI needs his social security
> number.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 02 May 2005 10:10:25 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> <jclarke.usenet@snet.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Minotaur wrote:
>>
>>> g glass wrote:
>>>> My 9600XT went flakey in the 640x480 video mode on boot and
>>>> when
>>>> running progs in command mode. After an hour on the phone to
>>>> Canada,
>>>> the obnoxious tech support person said nothing about how to
>>>> trouble
>>>> shoot, but ranted about how it couldn't be the ATI board.
>>>> Finally
>>>> after replacing the board with a borrowed one to prove that the
>>>> board was defective, ATI wanted my Social Security Number
>>>> before
>>>> shipping a replacement, in addition to a credit card - I
>>>> trashed the
>>>> board.
>>>>
>>>> Good-By ATI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let me guess, you have never overclocked it and your PC case has
>>> great
>>> air flow through it?
>>>
>>> Love reading horrow stories about Americans being screwed over
>>> by having
>>> no consumer rights lol Democracy..
>>
>>On the troll-o-meter that scores about a .3 out of 10.
>>
>>If Americans have "no consumer rights" then what do all those
>>legions of
>>product liability lawyers do?
>>
>>And if they offered to replace the board and he declined, then he
>>_waived_
>>his "consumer rights".
>>
>>And the US is not a democracy, never has been and hopefully never
>>will be.
>>
>>So what's your next inane remark going to be?
>

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J. Clarke wrote:
> Anthony L. Rondon wrote:
>
>
>>This may help next time someone asks.
>>
>>http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10002.html#protect
>>
>>Scroll down to the section called "Protect your Social Security number"
>>and ask them about the fourth question.
>>
>>
>>"Smart Feet" <smartfeet@yourshoes.com> wrote in message
>>news:9JNde.3855$9n1.2968@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>>
>>>J. Clarke wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Now let's see, they've got your credit card number and your home address
>>>>and
>>>>a working email address and your phone number. I don't see how they can
>>>>do
>>>>more harm with the social security number.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The SSN is the key to identity theft. You want to take the chance that
>>>ATI won't get hacked and your personal information stolen? (Or that some
>>>employee won't just walk out the door with it?)
>
>
> You really think it's that hard to find out someone's social security number
> given their name, address, and phone number?
>

You have just answered the question, why there is no need to give them
you're Social Security #.

Why the debate? or is it more about the bate?

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On Tue, 03 May 2005 19:18:08 GMT, RAH
<rhugh@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>I've just sent my fourth AIW9800 back for warranty replacement since
>Dec. 04, no requirement for SSN here.
>
>4 defective cards in 4 months is not much of an endorsement, but they
>do keep trying. I just get an RMA # from the web site and send them
>off, don't bother with a long distance phone call just to get the long
>delays and reinstall driver advice.
>

Try cooling the card a bit better next time; do not put any card
in the PCI slot immediately adjacent to the AGP slot - it will
heat-suffocate the GPU.............. Check that there is adequate
airflow past the video card ---- essential, since the built-in
(er) "cooling-solution" leaves a lot to be desired.

John Lewis