HAHAHA - i hate VIA too

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I aint signing nothing!!!

Intel would have 80% of the chipset market if they hadn't gone against supporting AMD processors on their own chipsets.

xbit says VIA has a better reputation than nVidia? Only amongst the idiots. Look, I understand ignorance, but if a person chooses to remain ignorant in spite of the facts in front of them, they're an idiot.

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SiS makes better chipsets than VIA, and has ever since the 735. The problem with SiS is that they don't follow the high end market.

The 735 was more stable, compatable, and faster than the KT266. So good in fact that VIA threatened to short-supply any motherboard makers who used it. All the major makers dropped their SiS 735 boards at the last minute.

745 was better than KT266A

645 was faster than Intel's 845 and I haven't seen any problems with it. Meanwhile VIA had those problematic 266 chipsets for the P4.

755 is better than the 800 series. Similar performance with better stability and better RAM compatability. Anandtech did complete testing to prove it.

SiS has been marginalized due to forces beyond their control. There's no reason for anyone to ever buy a VIA chipset for anything. And considering the damage VIA has done to the market, it's really amazing that people still support the company. But then again, people are flawed.

Meanwhile nVidia has been providing superior chipsets to SiS since the nForce2 series, with exception of the nForce3 150.

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sb!live vs. Via 133 anyone?

I found the SiS735 extremely painful and unstabile, with the KT266 as the better performer. I have heard good things about sis645DX, but really my overall experience with both Via and Sis is reason enough to start mailbombing

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right.. the ECS K7S5A, one of the most popular boards of all times. The backing story you gave is quite fun to read, as I've assembled two systems of it. One became generally unstabily and the other just became slow, both after 8 months or so. I hate sis too..

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Before we all spam VIA any more xbit published a retraction to the orginal story.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainb [...] 62900.html

It doesn't change that VIA has huge problems with it chipset now.

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well, they aren't trying either. SiS is never all over the web about revolutionary chipdesign.. or even a changelog, not one that is posted with ADs all over anyways.

Blame Asus? well sure, they are known to overvolt on some boards, as well as Abit are known to undervolt on some, but at least they have an overall stabile and believable productline, so to speak.

They seem to be in a gridlock-situation, I suppose that if they tried really really hard to convince (by facts, of course) that they were "back" in the perormance leauge, a pricechange could be justified.

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No, I'm not talking about a design feature (add a bit of voltage for stability), I'm talking about garbage:

This Asus board would plug along fine at 1.55v or whatever the default for the CPU was, then suddenly jump to 1.85v without any known reason, and stick there, with alarms blaring. Restart, everything is normal. This DID fry the CPU as well. When I tried another CPU in the board, the board tried to fry that one too.

Consider Asus was supposed to be a major player in 735 chipset boards, but backed out when VIA told them they had to.

Consider that Asus added squiggly memory traces to the P4S533 in order to creat the P4S8X with equal-length traces, then blamed SiS when the thing had memory issues.

Consider that most of Asus's top end P4 boards have a VRM issue that can degrade your overclocking over time.

Asus makes image products with hidden problems, like the defective cadilacs of the 1970's.

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I wouldn't know anything about that, It's funny though. Everyone blaming eachother . I never really used Asus, apart from my Gf2-pro, come on, their boards are yellow and brown! It's hard to find more disgusting and unappealing colours than that

I have a friend that has always sworn to asus though, I remember he had one mean-ass pc based on the kt266 though.

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