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I just wanted to know how many dBs is quiet?

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Depends on teh individual, as well as the pitch of the noise. For MOST people, for computer fans 25 DBa is almost silent and 35 DBa is bearable. 50 DBa is a vacume cleaner.

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Keep in mind that decibals are logarithmic when looking at fans etc. A fan at 40 db is much much more than twice as loud as one at 20 db.

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What is a decibel?

It is a logaritmnic unit used to describe a ratio between two power levels.

3dB is twice as powerful as the other
10db is ten times as powerful as the other
60db is a million times as powerful as the other

See also:
http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/dB.html

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0 dB for sound is the "threshold of hearing". Below that, there is no sound that can be detected.

This is what you hear lying in bed in windless night with no animal sounds outside, no ticking clocks, or droning fan/furnace/waterpump/stove motors, and only the sound of your own breathing.

.....actually, 0 dB is what you hear when you hold your breath in this silent room, and are listening for anything at all. In which case you'll probably hear the beats of your own heart, or the blood thumping in your neck as it surges through your own arteries.


For everyday life, 0 decibels is actually a relative sound level since the threshold of hearing will be different for each person.

For a deaf person, the threshold of detection is probably the same point that causes pain and physical damage to the eardrum for a hearing person. (Things become unclear for very loud and very low-frequency sounds which can be "felt" rather than "heard". A deaf person can likely feel them just as well as anyone else.)

Also, the perception of sound for a hearing person is somewhat flexible. There is a small muscle inside the ear that can tighten up the bones that transmit sound to the cochlea. This deadens the incoming sounds and can help protect the sound-detecting cells inside the cochlea from damage. However, this muscle cannot respond quickly enough to instantaneous loud sounds like gunshots so the cochlea can be damaged before this muscle can react. Also, when listening to prolonged loud sounds such as in the front row of a rock concert, this small muscle eventually tires out, so ear sensitivity goes back up, and cochlea damage can then occur.

So, for someone who has regularly blasted their ears out by firing guns at close range without ear protection, or constantly listens to music at maximum volume, their threshold of hearing will be much higher than normal because their cochlea is already damaged, and so they won't notice fairly loud droning sounds that annoy people who still have more sensitive hearing.

This is also why droning sounds may be so annoying. Your ear can temporarily quiet them down, but eventually it gets tired and you have to sit through the full intensity of the loud whirring and whining of your CPU and case fans, your CD drive which seems ready to vibrate apart and explode... AIIGHH, can't stand it anymore. I'm getting outta this room for a while, away from the noise. Gotta give my ears a break. :)

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Well i dont know much about the scale, but when dealing with casefans of an 80mm variety i know that anything below 24dBa is very quiet. my 21dba Panaflo fans are perfect. Often lost behind the hum of hard drives and other components. anything over 35dBa for me is highly annoying.

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Hopefully they're undead. As long as they still push air, I don't want to hear them (especially in a mic).

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I bought a vantec tornado, I think it puts out like 65 decibels or something- the thing is like a jet engine, you have to shout if you want to talk to someone. Anyway, I would recommend something quieter haha.

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like an earlier post, for me <25dBa is pretty damn quiet and <35dBa is fine. Equally as important maybe is the pitch etc of the noise; how irritating it is and how easy to ignore as background noise. Probably if your computer is positioned somewhere quiet with little background noise you'd notice the comp noise more; partly because different noise kind of competes and partly because e.g. in noisy places your brain will be switching off lots of background noise already.

Note although 21dBa is technically twice as powerful as 20dBa, you're unlikely to consider it twice as "noisy". Noise also depends on your case - if it is prone to vibrating with fans etc, and how well it deadens sound. Also just having some form of barrier (e.g. desk) between your ears and the comp case can make quite a lot of difference to the amount of noise.

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Jeez... that one moves more air then my Delta 120HP does. But PooBaa showed me that link before.

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0dB is really a reference SPL or more accuratly, a power dissipation level at the threshold of human hearing. This SPL is then set to 0dB SPL. A voltage reference like 0dBmv voltage, for instance, is a one milliwatt reference, which is then set to a "zero" dBM. So, anything can be a reference. Decibels is a RATIO not a level of power! Until you know the reference @ 0dB, you don't know the power or voltage levels increased form the reference. Why is this? The equation is 20 x log output/input. So, if the output is the same as the input you get 0dB. Doesn't matter what the reference is, you just arbitrarily start there.
dBW = Decibels referenced to a power level of 1 watt
dBk = Decibels referenced to a power level of 1 kilowatt (1000 watts)
dBm0 = Decibels with respect to 1 mW at the zero (0) Transmission Level Point ETC.

Decibels SPL's don't know what you ears sensitivity are, and don't care. The reference is variable from person to person but it is standardized around 0.0002Ubar.

The power of sound varies as the square of pressure, so this formula is also appropriate for SPL (sound pressure level) calculations so SPL is a 20x power law equation.
20 * LOG (1) = 0dB 1 x reference (log of zero is 1).
20 * LOG (10) = 20db (10 times reference)
20 * LOG (100) =40db (100 times reference)
20 * LOG (1000) =60db (1000 times reference)
20 * LOG (10000) = 80dB (10,000 times reference) and so on.

Your ear hears, or needs, about a 3dB SPL (sound pressure level) change to sense a change in perceived loudness. 10dB is "twice as load" to your ear, but twice the SPL power is 6dB or 20*LOG(2)not 10dB. Confusing? Yes, when people refer to undefined references like "twice" as loud" it will be. So SPL is subjective from person to person based on the previously mentioned reference to the threshold of hearing on the average person. Your ear doesn't "fit" the decibel scale. My ear doesn't have a "twice the dissipated SPL setting" last time a checked. That said, if you have a real 60dB SPL background noise level (about a normal room) you're doing pretty good. Anything over that will stick out as an isolated, and sometimes irritating noise level. 80dB is 10 times (10,000/1,000)the power reference than 60dB so it will be more than "twice as loud" per indirect reference (your results may vary with others). The thing to realize here is that dissipated energy goes up tremendously once you get to 50dB or more. And, all that energy is going somewhere, into your ear.

What this says, is anything over 60dB and certainly near 80dB is damn obviously louder. 50dB is darn quiet. Not to make this more confuxing, but SPL is also relative to the distance from the source. This is also a squared law effect. Twice the distance is half the remaining noise from reference. How close is your PC to you?

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