Newbie having problems....

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When i boot up i get the message '!! windows system eror - a duplicate name
exists on the network!!'

Tried to set up a small network but got a bit lost and presume this has come
from there...How can i delete this message, cancel all the networks 'things'
that i've done and start from fresh....Tia

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On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 23:17:24 -0000, "Richie" <richieb99@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>When i boot up i get the message '!! windows system eror - a duplicate name
>exists on the network!!'
>
>Tried to set up a small network but got a bit lost and presume this has come
>from there...How can i delete this message, cancel all the networks 'things'
>that i've done and start from fresh....Tia

Thanks for not telling us something about your computer and operating
system. Guesswork and mysteries are so much fun...

Let me guess... You cloned the hard disk and are now wondering why
it's complain about duplication. Duh.

If you happen to have XP or W2K, right click on the "My Computah" icon
and select "Properties". Select the "Network Identification" tab.
Change the system name. Reboot.

If you happen to have W98 or WinME, right click on the the "Network
Neighborhood" icon and select "Properties". "Select the
"Identification" tab. Change the computah name.

If you did cloned a W2K or XP system, you're about to have a different
problem. Windoze distinguishes its network computers by assigning a
globally unique system ID code to each machine. It's considered bad
form to have two identical machines with identical SID codes. Start
reading here:
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/newsid.shtml
If you decide to change the SID, you will need to reinstall most of
the operating system, IE6, Norton AntiVirus, much of MS Office, and a
few others. The system will complain on bootup, demand the original
CDROM's, reload some programs, but work when it's all done. What's
happening is that MS "brands" each executeable with the SID so it can
trace documents created by the OS or MS Office back to the originating
computah. If you go this route, be sure to record both the original
and changed SID in case you wanna put it back.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:33:53 +0000, Mark McIntyre
<markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 23:15:36 -0800, in alt.internet.wireless , Jeff
>Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>
>>CDROM's, reload some programs, but work when it's all done. What's
>>happening is that MS "brands" each executeable with the SID so it can
>>trace documents created by the OS or MS Office back to the originating
>>computah.

>This last part isn't true any more - they had to stop doing that for
>reasons of invasion of privacy. They even had to provide a free tool to
>remove SIDs inside Office docs.

You mean this thing?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads [...] laylang=en
which only works for Office 2003 documents. Nothing for Office 97,
2003 or Office XP. Maybe this?
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ [...] 21033.aspx
that removes "personal and hidden information" from Word Documents.
Note that the SID is not listed as one of the items removed. It's
still in there, somewhere.

I recently had to tweak the SID on a W2K installation. As soon as I
changed the SID, and on reboot, it wanted to reinstall the OS, MS
Office, a few updates, and Norton AntiVirus. I accidentally created a
problem by copying the i386 directory from the install cdrom to the
hard disk. The copied files ended up read-only. The W2K reinstall
complained that it could not install a short list of file. (Sorry, I
forgot to scribble down the name). When I marked the files as
read-write, the install succeeded. That's because the install wants
to "brand" the binaries with the SID and who knows what else.

I also ran into the same read-only issues with IE6, XP, and MS Office
installs. If the files are read-only, the OS can't brand them, and
the install fails.

If you need to convince yourself, compare "Hello World" type documents
created with Word from two different machines. If MS really did stop
branding documents, they should be the same (excluding the creator and
revision information). They're not.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558