i300 on Verizon network

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I recently bought a Samsung i300 phone on eBay that suggested that it would
work on the Verizon network. I have been unable to get it to work, and I
think the reason is that my phone number was ported-over from Sprint. From
what I can determine, when a number is ported (at least to Verizon) there
are then two phone numbers that work in concert with one-another to somehow
achieve using a number from another carrier on the Verizon network. Again,
I don't know the details about how exactly this works, but in going into my
existing system programming section of my current phone and prior phones
that is how it seems to be. The i300 doesn't allow this two-number scheme,
which I think is at the heart of the problem.

Anyone have any experience or have any problems with
local-number-portability using older equipment? Does anyone know how this
two phone-number thing works?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Herron

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Steve, thanks. I may be out-of-luck using this phone on the Verizon network
without giving up my phone number, and that's not going to happen...
Appreciate your help.

Herron

"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
news:cnc8fo$mp8$1@ratbert.glorb.com...
> E Herron wrote:
> > I recently bought a Samsung i300 phone on eBay that suggested that it
would
> > work on the Verizon network. I have been unable to get it to work, and
I
> > think the reason is that my phone number was ported-over from Sprint.
From
> > what I can determine, when a number is ported (at least to Verizon)
there
> > are then two phone numbers that work in concert with one-another to
somehow
> > achieve using a number from another carrier on the Verizon network.
Again,
> > I don't know the details about how exactly this works, but in going into
my
> > existing system programming section of my current phone and prior phones
> > that is how it seems to be. The i300 doesn't allow this two-number
scheme,
> > which I think is at the heart of the problem.
> >
> > Anyone have any experience or have any problems with
> > local-number-portability using older equipment? Does anyone know how
this
> > two phone-number thing works?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help.
> > Herron
>
> I can actually confirm that there are three items used to identify a phone
to a
> wireless carrier now that portability is in effect.
>
> ESN: the phone's Electronic Serial Number (has always been used)
> MTN: the phone's Mobile Telephone Number (has always been used)
>
> I can't recall the name of the third, but it's unique to the carrier
you're using.
>
> If your phone number has never been ported to another carrier by yourself
or
> anyone else, that third number will be the same as your MTN. Otherwise, it
will
> be different.
>
>
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:59:39 -0800, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
wrote:

>I can actually confirm that there are three items used to identify a phone to a
>wireless carrier now that portability is in effect.
>
>ESN: the phone's Electronic Serial Number (has always been used)
>MTN: the phone's Mobile Telephone Number (has always been used)
>
>I can't recall the name of the third, but it's unique to the carrier you're using.

MSN. Can't recall what it stands for. Can't find a definition on
google...
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Evan Platt wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:59:39 -0800, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I can actually confirm that there are three items used to identify a phone to a
>>wireless carrier now that portability is in effect.
>>
>>ESN: the phone's Electronic Serial Number (has always been used)
>>MTN: the phone's Mobile Telephone Number (has always been used)
>>
>>I can't recall the name of the third, but it's unique to the carrier you're using.
>
>
> MSN. Can't recall what it stands for. Can't find a definition on
> google...

Microsoft Network.

I thought it was MSID? (Mobile Station ID, perhaps MSN == Mobile Station Number?)


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Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message news:<cndn75$1kl$2@ratbert.glorb.com>...
> Evan Platt wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:59:39 -0800, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I can actually confirm that there are three items used to identify a phone to a
> >>wireless carrier now that portability is in effect.
> >>
> >>ESN: the phone's Electronic Serial Number (has always been used)
> >>MTN: the phone's Mobile Telephone Number (has always been used)
> >>
> >>I can't recall the name of the third, but it's unique to the carrier you're using.
> >
> >
> > MSN. Can't recall what it stands for. Can't find a definition on
> > google...
>
> Microsoft Network.
>
> I thought it was MSID? (Mobile Station ID, perhaps MSN == Mobile Station Number?)

ESN : MDN : MSID
with sprint thats what is used to program a phone
MDN the handsets #
MSID usually matches MDN but not after WLNP and 3G data , SIP (PTT)
came about
Sprint still programs handsets by hand , yet VZW will use OTA (over
the air) to program the handsets.
more to come