Aloha to all!!
Ive just recieved my new 9800Pro 128MB and fired up some benchies....however i noticed something real weird...

First: my 3DMARK 2001 went up from 3200 to ~7800....no too great.....
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7855050


Second: my 3DMARK 03 went up from 108 to 4848!!! Now that's a nice leap.....

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2562228


Why is my 03 mark improvement soooo much better than my 2001??

Last week i benched my rig with a friends 9500Pro to see if it was of any use to get a 9800Pro on my OLD OUTDATED machine..and i scored 7400 on 3DMARK 2001...so the 9800Pro gave me only an additional 300 points???

I know that the CPU is holding me back...but i saw a great jump in 3DMARK 03??!!

Tomorrow i'll try Aquamark!!
Is this within NORMAL???

P.S. COMPARED TO MY RADEON DDR VIVO 64MB....THIS THING IS....HHHOOOTTTTTT!!!!

GUESS I'LL NEED A NEW PSU AND SOME NEW COOLING FANS!!


SPECS:

Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP
DirectX Version: 9.0b
Mobo Manufacturer: ABIT TH-7 Raid
Mobo Model: i850-W83627HF
AGP Rates: (Current/Available) 4x / 1x, 2x, 4x
CPU: Intel (Willamette) Pentium 4 1493 MHz
FSB: 100 MHz
Memory: 256 MB RDRAM
Graphics Chipset: ATI RADEON 9800 PRO
Driver Version: 6.14.10.6444 (Catalyst 4.5)
Video Memory 128 MB
Core Clock: 378 MHz
Memory Clock: 338 MHz
PSU: POS 300W

IIRC, 2001 is much more system dependent than 2003. 2003 gives similar scores for systems differing in all but video cards. For comparison, sticking a 9800pro into my 1800xp system nets 10,000 '01 marks and 5000 '03 marks.

3dmark01 still seems low though...

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2001 score is too low

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any particular reason u think??

Or should i rerun??

By the way...since i've never owned anything newer than my 4 years old Radeon ddr 64MB....IS THIS HEAT NORMAL??

WHEN I TOUCH THE MEMORY...DURING GAMES..ITS REAL HOT!!

2001 score seems really low, but as you said your processor is holding you back as it too has to crunch a fair few numbers and pass them onto your GPU, FYI with my rig 2001 pulls 15,500 everything running stock std, no O/Cing at all. So you might want to put a new CPU on your wishlist (and a new MoBo) real soon.

Gary

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<font color=red>AMD 2700 XP<font color=red>
<font color=red>Gecube 9800 pro Extreme<font color=red>
<font color=blue>ASUS A7N8X deluxe<font color=blue>
<font color=blue>1024 meg Dual Channel DDR 3200<font color=blue>
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LMAO, YES, there IS such a thing as a stupid question! Let me rephrase that for you:

"Why do I get a larger gain in a DirectX 9 benchmark then a DirectX 8 benchmark, when upgrading to a DX9 card?"

And now that I've rephrased the question I think you'll know the answer!

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yeah, the heat is normal on the newer cards. go to newegg and order a VGA silencer.

I get your point...but still a DX9 card should perform all the DX8 intructions with top performance....I should be getting more than ~7500....

R u trying to say that if i upgraded to say a Ti-4600 i would have got a better score in 2001 but a worse score in 2003...thr latter is obviously clear, but the former is not.

anyways..after running all the games i've got for like an hour...I reru 3DMARK2001....WEIRD...

NOW I GET 8332 !!

Just repeated after like 1 hour..No tweaks whatsoever...STRANGE....I GAINED LIKE 1000 POINTS!!

Any one care to elaborate why??

Sorry almost forgot!!

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7855443

DX9 intrustions and DX8 instructions are totally separate things. The DX9 you download is just an addon of the of DX9 intructions plus all the previous DXs added togather.
There is a difference!

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Considering your CPU is roughly as powerfull as a PIII 1000EB, I'd say 8332 is only slightly low!

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AquaMark Score: 23207


guess thats low too...whatever!!!

I hate complaining about low scores!!
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_v [...] 1017042861

Time to pitch that chunk of silicon and get a decent processor.

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Another expensive stick of PC800/PC1066 might help too depending on which new chip you get.

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Well not sure how the rest of the system affects this (system resources feeding VPU), but your Graphics results is about the same as my <A HREF="http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1216135171" target="_new">R9600Pro at stock speeds</A>.

You 3Dmk01 scores are lower <A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7736662" target="_new">than mine</A> in every area but Nature, which proves your card is an R9800Pro, but it also proves that you're being heldback by the rest of your system.

But the 3Dmk03 scores are a positive result, as they're higher than my faster system and overclocked 535/355 R9600P from last year.

So like everyone else has been saying, looks like you'll need to upgrade the rest of the system to get better results. But the REAL questions is how do you like it in games, if it's ok there, then who cares what your results in these tests are?


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