in Directx mode, the near back ground is lagging and farther back ground looks alright
this issue can be notice when you do side walk in Counter strike

however, under openGL mode theres no lagging problem, yet the FSAA and Aniso isn't functioning under OpenGL mode

this issue happened in Counter strike and the Dragon test in 3Dmark2001se

anyone?


http://mp3.com/dxl<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by dxl on 10/15/03 09:59 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

Radeons + CounterStrike = Bad News

<b>I help because you suck</b>

What's this Counter.... Strike... you speak of?

I don't see it on the shelves of my local E-lektroniks store. Do I need to send in Cheerio box tops? Was there a First-Strike that warranted a Counter-strike?

Is it anything like Combat on the Atari? That won't play on my Radeon either! Stoopid ATI cardz!

Oh well, I'm gonna go home now and have some so called, ... <i>Iced.... Cream</i> - Monty Burns

MMmmmmm Heavenly Hash!


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really?
you have the same issue??
theres a few other games will do that as well
especially when you side walk in Counter stricks you can see the issue with Directx drive.

my setup
ASUS A7N8X
xp3200+ (218x10.5)
two KINGSTON HYPERX PC3500 512MB 184PIN(218mhz, at 2 3 3 7)
segate 120g 8mb 7200rpm ATA100
segate 80g 2mb 7200rpm ATA100
creamware pulsar 2
radeon 9800pro 128mb
LG 16X BLACK DVD-ROM
LG GCE-8520B BLACK CDRW 52X24X52
1.44MB BLACK 3.5IN FLOPPY DRIVE
zalman 400w power
ZALMAN CNPS7000A-ALCU
ZALMAN ZM80C-HP FANLESS VGA HEATPIPE
two VANTEC STEALTH CASE FAN 80MM
ANTEC LANBOY case
SUNBEAM 12INCH BLUE COLD CATHODE LIGHT

any conflicts?

anyone else?

http://mp3.com/dxl<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by dxl on 10/15/03 10:00 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

you really don't know that game?
it's one of the most popular online game
a Halflife mod

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I have 2 possible suggestions for you at the moment:

1. Donwload the latest version of Catalyst (ver. 3.8)
2. Make sure "Application Preference" is <b><font color=red>NOT</b></font color=red> selected under the Graphics Tab settings for your Radeon card for Ansiotropic Filter & Full Scene Antialiasing.

I would try both )

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!

HL engine is based on quake 2 so it is geared toward OpenGL, the DX mode is really buggy(visually it is worse than OpenGL).

And AA/AF works fine on my 9500pro, although due to dodgy coding in 1.6, 1.6 likes to lower frame as low as 30 sometimes.

i'm using the latest Catalyst (ver. 3.8)
nothing is set to Application Preference already

which ATI card do you have?
no problem at all?

i can run openGL yet, the Ansiotropic Filter & Full Scene Antialiasing won't be functioning even i set it to FLL setting under Catalyst driver

http://mp3.com/dxl

I run a Mobility Radeon 7500C on My Dell Inspiron 4150 Laptop & I have had no problems at all with Half-Life or one of its modifications, Day of Defeat. So, I would not know why Radeons would supposedly spell trouble for CS.

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!

so you mean u have problem running DX mode with CS as well?
so you use OpenGL?

i have some other games with this kind of problem, some won't

the OpenGL AA/AF works great with Seriou sam.

i'm playing counter strike 1.5, if i install 1.6 will i be able to play on 1.5's sever?
1.6 bad?

do you notice the back ground is lagging in the Dragon test in 3Dmark2001se?
when i first test my pc in 3dmark2001 version1, the issue is present but not as bad as i update the newest driver, yet when i set my driver back.... still the same bad issue in dragon test.

http://mp3.com/dxl

i'm afraided that i have got the bad ATI 9800pro production......

i bought my new with not working 9800pro so i bring my pc back and changed another mobo and get a working 9800pro......

i can't return or fix it now since i'm using the fanless heatsink...
no over clocking.

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I was being Ironic.

<i>"Oh, ho, ho, irony! Oh, no, no, we don't get that here. See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was getting tired of being stared at."</i> -Steve Martin

It's more of an inside joke about CS issues on NEW cards!

Now if only I could get my COMBAT cartridge to fit in my Slot-loading DVD drive!


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whahahahah!!!!!!

i m gonna make u an offer u cant refuse.........
how abt u swap tht 9800 pro with the tnt2 of mine........
runs cs like a charm...........since ur being honest
i wont charge a dime for the excahange!!!

what say u??

Exactly my point.

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Yes, CS in dx mode doesnt render properly on my 9500pro. Graphic looks a bit blurry, no bullet mark on the wall etc...(its engine is OpenGL based, what do you expect...)

I ran 1.5/1.6 on cat 3.2/3.4/3.7 so far, AA/AF works for me in OpenGL. Havent tried the 3.8 yet, so maybe it could be a driver related problem so you should try out older CATs.

1.6 is pretty [-peep-], buggy+ct's new toys owns t hard when abuse to the max. You can still play 1.5 after you install 1.6 until Valve decide to pull the plug on WON system...

ps. havent ran 3dmark2001 for ages, but from my memory i cant remember any lag.