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If I have Tungsten E and E2 users, is it possible to hotsynch both the E and  
E2 using the E2 desktop software?
 
The E desktop software is already installed...(older system).  Assuming I  
can use both with the same desktop, do I install the newer E2 desktop  
software to overwrite the existing installation? (on Windows XP)?
 
If I use 2 user names -1 for the E and the other for the E2, can I start  
with the same contact information for both users? -That is, give both users  
the current contact information that is currently in the E, and then have  
them differ as new contacts are added.  How would I do this?
 
How do I get add-on programs from the E (such as AvantGo) to be installed on  
both the E and the E2 if I update the desktop software?
 
Hope these questions are clear enough.
 
Thanks

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I don't have this setup, but I just replaced my old HandEra 330 with an
E2, and I'll try to address your questions. If I'm wrong about
anything, this being the Internet, I'll be promptly flamed with the
correct info.
 
In article <s8AEe.30581$aA5.10376@tornado.socal.rr.com>, Cindy
<CA@nospam.com> wrote:
 
> If I have Tungsten E and E2 users, is it possible to hotsynch both the E and  
> E2 using the E2 desktop software?
>  
There should be no problem syncing different models to the same
computer, assuming the user names are different (as you state below
they are).
 
> The E desktop software is already installed...(older system).  Assuming I  
> can use both with the same desktop, do I install the newer E2 desktop  
> software to overwrite the existing installation? (on Windows XP)?
>  
Yes, you'll probably need to install the E2 software. I had 4.1 (at
this point, I should mention that I have Mac OS X, but this should be
the same for both platforms) and it still synced the E2 with no
problem. But extras, such as the Media 'Send to Handheld' program (on
Windows, I believe there's a desktop Media program) weren't a part of
my existing installation so I had to install the new version over it
for that to work.
 
I believe all versions of Palm Desktop are backward-compatible with
older devices, so that shouldn't be a problem for you. And the E's not
that old.
 
> If I use 2 user names -1 for the E and the other for the E2, can I start  
> with the same contact information for both users? -That is, give both users  
> the current contact information that is currently in the E, and then have  
> them differ as new contacts are added.  How would I do this?
>  
This could be a little trickier; maybe someone has a better idea of how
to do this. Here's how I would do it: get a file utility such as
TealMover (or the free Filez) and beam the E's address book database
over to the E2. But this may not work correctly, because Palm's always
messing with the fields in these db's and they may have a different
structure in the E2. If it doesn't work, and no one else has a better
idea, you may have to beam each record over individually from within
the Contacts app. But this could get old quickly.
 
> How do I get add-on programs from the E (such as AvantGo) to be installed on  
> both the E and the E2 if I update the desktop software?
>  
Make sure you have the Backup conduit set to back up everything, then
sync the E. Go into the Palm folder for the E's user name, find the
Backup folder in it. Open the E2's user in the desktop software, open
the 'Install Handheld Files...' window from the 'HotSync' menu (I hope
these are the same in the Windows version), and drag all the
programs/files you want from the E's backup folder to the 'Install'
window. HotSync the E2, and all the files should be there. (But be
careful -- make sure all the files don't exceed the 26 or so mb in the
E2's memory.) For programs that need support files, make sure those go
over as well. And for anything registered with the E's user name,
you'll need to buy another license for the new device.
 
BTW, you may just want to go to PalmGear or Handango or somewhere to
get the latest versions of the software. If you haven't updated lately,
the newer versions may work better with the E2's NVFS memory.
 
> Hope these questions are clear enough.
>  
Likewise with my answers. Criticisms, anyone?
 
Dave

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Thanks Dave for your response...I'll wait a bit before I try it to see if  
anyone wants to add to your ideas.
Thanks
<none@none.com> wrote in message news:230720051923592692%none@none.com...
>I don't have this setup, but I just replaced my old HandEra 330 with an
> E2, and I'll try to address your questions. If I'm wrong about
> anything, this being the Internet, I'll be promptly flamed with the
> correct info.
>
> In article <s8AEe.30581$aA5.10376@tornado.socal.rr.com>, Cindy
> <CA@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> If I have Tungsten E and E2 users, is it possible to hotsynch both the E  
>> and
>> E2 using the E2 desktop software?
>>
> There should be no problem syncing different models to the same
> computer, assuming the user names are different (as you state below
> they are).
>
>> The E desktop software is already installed...(older system).  Assuming I
>> can use both with the same desktop, do I install the newer E2 desktop
>> software to overwrite the existing installation? (on Windows XP)?
>>
> Yes, you'll probably need to install the E2 software. I had 4.1 (at
> this point, I should mention that I have Mac OS X, but this should be
> the same for both platforms) and it still synced the E2 with no
> problem. But extras, such as the Media 'Send to Handheld' program (on
> Windows, I believe there's a desktop Media program) weren't a part of
> my existing installation so I had to install the new version over it
> for that to work.
>
> I believe all versions of Palm Desktop are backward-compatible with
> older devices, so that shouldn't be a problem for you. And the E's not
> that old.
>
>> If I use 2 user names -1 for the E and the other for the E2, can I start
>> with the same contact information for both users? -That is, give both  
>> users
>> the current contact information that is currently in the E, and then have
>> them differ as new contacts are added.  How would I do this?
>>
> This could be a little trickier; maybe someone has a better idea of how
> to do this. Here's how I would do it: get a file utility such as
> TealMover (or the free Filez) and beam the E's address book database
> over to the E2. But this may not work correctly, because Palm's always
> messing with the fields in these db's and they may have a different
> structure in the E2. If it doesn't work, and no one else has a better
> idea, you may have to beam each record over individually from within
> the Contacts app. But this could get old quickly.
>
>> How do I get add-on programs from the E (such as AvantGo) to be installed  
>> on
>> both the E and the E2 if I update the desktop software?
>>
> Make sure you have the Backup conduit set to back up everything, then
> sync the E. Go into the Palm folder for the E's user name, find the
> Backup folder in it. Open the E2's user in the desktop software, open
> the 'Install Handheld Files...' window from the 'HotSync' menu (I hope
> these are the same in the Windows version), and drag all the
> programs/files you want from the E's backup folder to the 'Install'
> window. HotSync the E2, and all the files should be there. (But be
> careful -- make sure all the files don't exceed the 26 or so mb in the
> E2's memory.) For programs that need support files, make sure those go
> over as well. And for anything registered with the E's user name,
> you'll need to buy another license for the new device.
>
> BTW, you may just want to go to PalmGear or Handango or somewhere to
> get the latest versions of the software. If you haven't updated lately,
> the newer versions may work better with the E2's NVFS memory.
>
>> Hope these questions are clear enough.
>>
> Likewise with my answers. Criticisms, anyone?
>
> Dave

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In article <kEDEe.1669$vf.1648@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
 "Cindy" <CA@nospam.com> wrote:
 
> Thanks Dave for your response...I'll wait a bit before I try it to see if  
> anyone wants to add to your ideas.
> Thanks
 
> > In article <s8AEe.30581$aA5.10376@tornado.socal.rr.com>, Cindy
> > <CA@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If I have Tungsten E and E2 users, is it possible to hotsynch both the E  
> >> and
> >> E2 using the E2 desktop software?
> >>
> > There should be no problem syncing different models to the same
> > computer, assuming the user names are different (as you state below
> > they are).
 
That's right. As long as you keep them under separate user names, which  
define separate databases.
 
> >> The E desktop software is already installed...(older system).  Assuming I
> >> can use both with the same desktop, do I install the newer E2 desktop
> >> software to overwrite the existing installation? (on Windows XP)?
 
From www.palmone.com, "the Palm Desktop 4.1.4 synchronizes with Palm  
Tungsten series, Palm Zire series, Palm i700 series, Palm m500 series,  
Palm m100 series, Palm VII series, Palm V series, Palm III series and  
PalmPilot handhelds." That's for Windows systems, which I assume you're  
using.
 
You'll find answers to most questions on that Web site.
 
> >> If I use 2 user names -1 for the E and the other for the E2, can I start
> >> with the same contact information for both users? -That is, give both  
> >> users
> >> the current contact information that is currently in the E, and then have
> >> them differ as new contacts are added.  How would I do this?
 
Yes. The user names represent separate databases and changes to one do  
not affect the other.
 
> >> How do I get add-on programs from the E (such as AvantGo) to be installed  
> >> on
> >> both the E and the E2 if I update the desktop software?
 
The desktop software allows you to select the username/database with  
which to synchronize. Make sure you make the selection that matches the  
device.

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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:23:51 GMT, <none@none.com> was understood to
have stated the following:
 
>> If I use 2 user names -1 for the E and the other for the E2, can I start  
>> with the same contact information for both users? -That is, give both users  
>> the current contact information that is currently in the E, and then have  
>> them differ as new contacts are added.  How would I do this?
>>  
>This could be a little trickier; maybe someone has a better idea of how
>to do this. Here's how I would do it: get a file utility such as
>TealMover (or the free Filez) and beam the E's address book database
>over to the E2. But this may not work correctly, because Palm's always
>messing with the fields in these db's and they may have a different
>structure in the E2. If it doesn't work, and no one else has a better
>idea, you may have to beam each record over individually from within
>the Contacts app. But this could get old quickly.
 
I would get both PDAs hot syncing without issue. Then, on the Palm
desktop, with the user for the E selected, I would select all records
for the contact book and export them. On the Palm desktop, select the
user for the E2, and import the previously exported contacts. Set the
address hot sync conduit for the E2 user to "desktop overwrites hand
held" (but don't make that the default!) and hot sync the E2.

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See my recent post (Saturday) about the problems I had with Documents to Go  
after synching a T & a T5 to the same machine.
 
It upgraded both machines to the latest (i.e. the T5 version) of the  
software, which was incompatible with my old Palm T and refused to run. Do  
the E & the E2 run the same version of third-party software? If not, you may  
have problems?
 
Bob Huntley
 
 
"Guy Bannis" <guy@ether.net> wrote in message  
news:guy-147A43.13353824072005@newssvr14-ext.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <kEDEe.1669$vf.1648@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
> "Cindy" <CA@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Dave for your response...I'll wait a bit before I try it to see if
>> anyone wants to add to your ideas.
>> Thanks
>
>> > In article <s8AEe.30581$aA5.10376@tornado.socal.rr.com>, Cindy
>> > <CA@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> If I have Tungsten E and E2 users, is it possible to hotsynch both the  
>> >> E
>> >> and
>> >> E2 using the E2 desktop software?
>> >>
>> > There should be no problem syncing different models to the same
>> > computer, assuming the user names are different (as you state below
>> > they are).
>
> That's right. As long as you keep them under separate user names, which
> define separate databases.
>
>> >> The E desktop software is already installed...(older system).  
>> >> Assuming I
>> >> can use both with the same desktop, do I install the newer E2 desktop
>> >> software to overwrite the existing installation? (on Windows XP)?
>
> From www.palmone.com, "the Palm Desktop 4.1.4 synchronizes with Palm
> Tungsten series, Palm Zire series, Palm i700 series, Palm m500 series,
> Palm m100 series, Palm VII series, Palm V series, Palm III series and
> PalmPilot handhelds." That's for Windows systems, which I assume you're
> using.
>
> You'll find answers to most questions on that Web site.
>
>> >> If I use 2 user names -1 for the E and the other for the E2, can I  
>> >> start
>> >> with the same contact information for both users? -That is, give both
>> >> users
>> >> the current contact information that is currently in the E, and then  
>> >> have
>> >> them differ as new contacts are added.  How would I do this?
>
> Yes. The user names represent separate databases and changes to one do
> not affect the other.
>
>> >> How do I get add-on programs from the E (such as AvantGo) to be  
>> >> installed
>> >> on
>> >> both the E and the E2 if I update the desktop software?
>
> The desktop software allows you to select the username/database with
> which to synchronize. Make sure you make the selection that matches the
> device.

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In article <idt8e1tj90kmgm0ijveur8ca02a59tlfrk@4ax.com>, David W.
Poole, Jr. <STKR!@microsoft.com> wrote:
 
> I would get both PDAs hot syncing without issue. Then, on the Palm
> desktop, with the user for the E selected, I would select all records
> for the contact book and export them. On the Palm desktop, select the
> user for the E2, and import the previously exported contacts. Set the
> address hot sync conduit for the E2 user to "desktop overwrites hand
> held" (but don't make that the default!) and hot sync the E2.
>  
 
Yes! That's much better. I don't know what I was thinking.
 
Dave

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:20:23 GMT, <none@none.com> was understood to
have stated the following:
 
>> I would get both PDAs hot syncing without issue. Then, on the Palm
>> desktop, with the user for the E selected, I would select all records
>> for the contact book and export them. On the Palm desktop, select the
>> user for the E2, and import the previously exported contacts. Set the
>> address hot sync conduit for the E2 user to "desktop overwrites hand
>> held" (but don't make that the default!) and hot sync the E2.
>>  
>
>Yes! That's much better. I don't know what I was thinking.
 
It's the only way I know that would work going "forward" (ie, from an
older app to a newer app). I wonder if it work going from a newer app
to an older one, since the desktop client is the where the conversions
are done?