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well all indections so far are good.
it seems we'll have a ClawHammer around years end
first samples already out to "close partners"
thats good...

I think we might see a litle Hammer Show-Down at CeBIT
thats good - as I have some AMD stocks (:
I bet they will fly!

I'm excited!



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"...that mass Hammer processors will be provided with an HIS metal lid improving the heat dissipation from the processor die and protecting it against mechanical damages."

Interesting quote from xbits. Older AMD CPUs were accused of having brittle cores. I just hope to God some mobo manufacturer implements use of the thermal diode. That diode has been there since Athlon, but the mobo folks havnt installed any way to use it.

Benchmarks are like sex, everybody loves doing it, everybody thinks they are good at it.

I know the ASUS KT333 Mobo and the A7M266-D already use the thermal diode...

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No kidding, color me shocked. I thought everyone was still using the dumb temp. probe on the bottom of the socket. I will look into that, thanks for the correction

Benchmarks are like sex, everybody loves doing it, everybody thinks they are good at it.

Does my Epox 8KHA+'s temp warning and auto-shut off at certain temp count?

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The other interesting quote from it is that the ClawHammer will be 30% faster than the equivolently clocked AthlonXP. So, following that idea, and if the PR ratings are based off the equivolently clocked XP, as opposed to T-Bird, a 3400+ Claw will be clocked at 2.333, or there abouts. Now, this is just based on simple math (and not politician math). Assuming, that since it has PC2700 support, the FSB will be 166 (333DDR), the multi will be 14. If all this speculation is true, the Claw will, in all areas, destroy a P4 NW. Granted, a 30% increase across the board would be spectacular, but a 15% across would be great, and make the clock for clock difference a non-factor. God, I love competition. If everything pans out, it looks like the Claw will be the CPU of choice when it's time for my next upgrade.

-SammyBoy

nah, that uses a mobo sensor (I got a 8KHA+ as well) rather than the diode

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So where's the diff?
Aren't I somewhat "protected" from any disasters like Intel's way but that it shuts off? And does it work if the fan does fail?

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the thermal diode is far more aqurite
the sensor could be 10c +/- wrong...

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So where should I set the auto-shut off temp at?
70ish? I dunno what is the temp that an AXP handles before it goes in smoke...


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It can do 90C for about a minute before it smokes...

id say 70ish is about right...


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K thanks!
I think I will put that as enabled option, you can never be too careful! At least I'll prove to my pro-Intel stubborn friends AMDs won't fry when overheated or without fan.
BTW we're talking degrees Celsius huh!

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Does that mean that the Hammer will have the same kind of metal heat spreader that the Pentium 4 does? Or is this new "HIS metal lid" look different and perform different funcitons?

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Antipop. Some others have posted it is similar to what Intel put on theirs. Im sure there will be some minor differences. But at least the "brittle core" crowd will stfu. Hopefully with SOI and the lid, supposed thermal issues wont exist any longer.

Benchmarks are like sex, everybody loves doing it, everybody thinks they are good at it.

I am hoping that the combo of .13 micron, SOI, and now some type of head spreader will allow AMD to deliver on its promising that water cooling will be a thing of the past even for the power user. Sounds really <b><i>cool</b>/</i>. hehe, get it?

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It's supposed to be IHS, not HIS. Integrated Heat Spreader. Just a typo, apparently. This is the same as on the P4.

SOI won't show up until Barton, I believe.

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SOI will be on Hammer chips from the outset, but Barton will be the first Athlon family chip with SOI.

Mark-

When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!

Does SOI give performance boost or better heat spreading?
What performance jump can we expect?

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I thought SOI simply reduced the amount of heat produced and lowers the voltage required for the chip to run. SOI does not directly improve performace however it does allow the potential of higher clocked chips to be produced due to the reduced heat output.

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SOI allows trasistors to switch faster. Higher clock speeds and lower voltages are a benefit of this.

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