Hi to everyone.I wanna ask if laptop can be as good as PC in performance.I f laptop can reach PC.And which are the best brand new models.Companies such as Sony,Toshiba...!!

Of course, the laptop is able to be as good as PC.
But, at first, your money must be enough to offer it^O^......
It's far more expensive than a desktop....

Try a Dell 5150 for near desktop performance with mainstream company

You can get desktop performance from a laptop. My first choice would be Alienware. But if your wallet isn't that big, I would reccommend either Sony or Dell.

Alienwarez makes laptops????

Anyways the gap between maximum performance of laptops and PCs is definitely getting smaller and smaller. The fastest laptop CPU is like 3 GHz and the fastest desktop CPU is 3.2 Ghz. So for standard applications, a laptop is up to spec as far as highend CPU performance. You can even buy laptops with a Radeon 9600 with DirectX 9 support, and this is a gamer's card although not as poweful as a 9800 Pro. But still, from the advantage you get from a laptop's mobility, what more can you ask? Also, a laptop with a "Ti4200 go" would be a decent choice for a laptop. Personally, I am writting to you now on a DELL Inspiron 4150 1.6 GHz Pentium 4 Processor, 256 megs of DDR RAM, and a Radeon Mobility 7500C 32 meg DDR & just love this computer. Heck, I can even game on this system, although others here might dissagree that this is a decent laptop for gaming that I was given August last year.

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!

Yes they do, there's a 3.2ghz, 7200 rpm 60 gig hd, 9600/5600 laptop from Alienware. I'd get it if I had the dough. I do wonder how much it costs to upgrade the videocard later on though.

I beleive the motherboards are designed on laptops to accept a few specific cards that were available that year, adnd those are the only ones they'll take. Personally, why go with Alienware and pay twice as much when you could get the same and hardware and performance for much less $$$$. Sure ALienware makes great fantastic stuff for gamers, but notheing yuou couldn't buy on your own for alot less.

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!

As I understand it, notebooks generally run 30 to 50% slower than desktops no matter what the configuration is.

However I'm typing this on my new Toshiba 5100 Satelite with 1.8 gig P4 64 meg Navidia and 512 of DDR Ram and absolutly love it. It handels my 3d solid modeling with out a problem and can get 1600 x 1200 with out the screen floating.

And as far as games go this thing rocks lol Quake looks great on it and the Harmen Kardon speekers make this thing sound great.

<<<As I understand it, notebooks generally run 30 to 50% slower than desktops no matter what the configuration is.>>>

Well, I apologize for being so blunt, but you understand it wrong. Notebooks can definitely perform as well as desktops at a standard configuration, however the chipsets and graphics solution make them very inflexible, and you can't very easily overclock a notebook CPU.

RaPTuRe

Who's General Failure and why's he reading my disk?

Well no need to apologize.

I seem to remeber that on this very site that it was mention that they run about 30 to 50% slower, not sure where I read it but I'm sure I read it here.

Now I'm not just talking processor speed I'm talking over all performace including graphics,games and so on.

I don't care what you're comparing, if you take a notebook with a 2GHz P4 and a Mobility Radeon 9000, it will perform within a margin of error, the same as a desktop with identical RAM, CPU and Graphics Chipset. If THG said anything to the contrary, they are in error, however I am certain that THG did not say anything as specific as that, and if they did it would be subject to the context in which it was written.

Heck, some Inspiron 8500's perform BETTER than equivalently spec'd desktop machines, some have speculated that it has something to do with the lower quality RAM used on (some)various GeForce 4 Ti 4200's - I don't know myself, but I do know for a FACT that if you put a notebook that uses identical basic components (e.g. Chipset, Graphics, CPU, RAM, HDD etc.) next to a desktop of the same configuration, it will perform approximately the same (This too, however, is dependant on the manufacturer, as many things on notebooks are hardly explicable).

RaPTuRe

Who's General Failure and why's he reading my disk?

The comparison was between an equally specked Laptop, home computer and a mini computer.

And at the end of it all the laptop did not fare as well as the two others in over all performance.

Well, for one thing I noticed the Alienware's mem isn't 3200, it's 2700 so it's async, thus it can't be quite as fast as an 875 mobo.
One question, somebody mentioned I could get the same for half the price, could you be more specific. TIA

Hate to be the one to break this to you, but they weren't equally spec'd. Take a look for instance at the memory: The Shuttle is using PC3200 memory (partly because it has a newer model of chipset and is thus able to handle it), versus the 2100 memory of the notebook. Not to mention that it was at a serious disadvantage when it came to graphics. The Shuttle also had a much faster HDD (7200rpm), the notebook wasn't even equipped with a reasonably fast notebook HDD, let alone one of the newer 7200rpm notebook HDDs. And above all this, the CPUs weren't even the same: The notebook was using a standard 2.4GHz (400MHz FSB), whereas the Shuttle was using an 800MHz FSB 2.4GHz Pentium 4.

So don't tell me that the spec's were equal, because they quite evidently were not.

RaPTuRe

Who's General Failure and why's he reading my disk?

RaPTuRe
Why don't you chill out. it sounds like your taking this whole thing personally lol

It is a well known fact. I hate to break it to you, but home PC PERFORM BETTER than laptops.

Yes laptops have come a looooong way in the last several years BUT THEY STILL can't keep up with a home PC.

And I'm not basing this on that one test between the 3 computers, it's just a fact, simple as that.

Cheers

Joe

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"Yes they do, there's a 3.2ghz, 7200 rpm 60 gig hd, 9600/5600 laptop from Alienware. I'd get it if I had the dough. I do wonder how much it costs to upgrade the videocard later on though"

alienware has no such nice machines. u must have confused it with a voodoo pc, hypersonic pc or an eurocom lappie.

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