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Wow...

<A HREF="http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/050523/tech_apple_intel.html?.v=3" target="_new">http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/050523/tech_apple_intel.html?.v=3</A>

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If they're changing why not go with AMD?

Nothing is as easy as it looks

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I don't think they are going to start putting Pentiums in the Macs. They are just going to contract with Intel to produce the chips of Apple's design. From the article, it appears that is their relationship with IBM currently.

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<font color=red>a spokeswoman for the computer maker characterized the Journal report as "rumor and speculation."</font color=red>



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They are just going to contract with Intel to produce the chips of Apple's design. From the article, it appears that is their relationship with IBM currently.


My understanding was that this was true of the G4 (which used to be produced by Motorola), but the G5 (that pulled Apple's butt out of a deep dark hole) was completely IBM's design.

It's possible that Apple is just searching for someone to fab their procs, like they always due, but it's hard to believe that they'd actually turn to Intel for that. :\ I think I'd sooner believe that Apple would allow 3rd party manufacturers to produce Mac-branded computers. :O

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AMD is a small company producing small quantities compared to Intel. Apple already has supply issues with IBM, and to consider AMD would exacerbate the problem, instead of resolving it.

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Yeah but I thought apple was interested more in quality than quantity as his share in the market suggests

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In any case, I don't think Intel does fabrication outsourcing. I'm pretty sure they only make their own chips in their fabs. Apple would have to go to the likes of UMC, TSMC, or National for that kind of outsourcing.

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I would tend to agree with that - AMD needs to focus on getting AMD designed chips out their doors.

Intel's fabs aren't exactly sitting idle though - in fact they are absolutely packed (and I doubt they'd build a new fab exclusively for this business venture).

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Well, as said in the original linked article:

But it said the talks could break down or could be a <b> tactic to gain negotiating leverage with Apple's current chip supplier, International Business Machines Corp. </b>

And the speculation has already boosted their numbers.

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Woah...i didn't see that part. Ooops!

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Much like Dell pulling Intel's string by saying they're talking with AMD and the sort? :wink:

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In any case, I don't think Intel does fabrication outsourcing. I'm pretty sure they only make their own chips in their fabs. Apple would have to go to the likes of UMC, TSMC, or National for that kind of outsourcing.


If Intel thinks producing Apple chips will be financial beneficial to them then why not?
TSMC and UMC has already go more than enough work load from AMD, Intel, nVidia and ATi already.

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I've seen these so often. "Apple using Merced ?", "Apple porting to Hammer !",..

I assume its indeed just a tactic to turn the thumbscrews on IBM. If its not, at least my guess would be its <b>not</b> about x86 cpu's. Apple moving to x86 would be suicide for them, there is no way they can compete with the Dells and Alienware's of this world.

While far fetched perhaps, I'd rather see them moving to Itanium. Take a 90nm IPF chip, strip it of most of its cache, and you get the typical Apple cpu:
- more or less affordable
- almost no competition for that platform
- almost no software available
- not x86
- generally slower than x86 but good FP potential



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>Intel's fabs aren't exactly sitting idle though - in fact
>they are absolutely packed

Thats not what I hear. AFAIK, like most companies in the business, they have a serious <i>over</i>capacity, especially at "older" process nodes. Its not for no reason they make flash and dump it low, loss generating prices.

Don't confuse the lack of availability of their high end offerings with insufficient fab capacity.

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"Don't confuse the lack of availability of their high end offerings with insufficient fab capacity."

Does Intel make "High End Chips" anymore??? Oh, you must be referring to high priced :)

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